Delivery of Canon R7? (Page 3): Perhaps I didn't explain it clear enough in my earlier post but you got it right here. Canon simply sells more lenses when you buy the kit instead of...

Toby

robertjerl wrote:

Maybe the "bargain" for the kits induces more sales, so a smaller profit per unit adds up to more profit in the long run.

Volume, volume, volume is king in mass market sales.

Perhaps I didn't explain it clear enough in my earlier post but you got it right here. Canon simply sells more lenses when you buy the kit instead of just the body. Many do not need and will not buy the kit if possible. I wonder what the resale price is for their kit lenses (ie how much will i loose if I buy the kit and resell the lense?)

rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA

robertjerl wrote:

Ah, but more and more of those beginners are just going for the camera in their cell phone, or is that a snapshot oriented camera with a cell phone added???

It may depend on who the person is.

When we got new iPhones last week, my wife looked at price. Period. I looked at the camera, but even I got the “iPhone 13” instead of the “iPhone Pro”, partly because of the financial arrangements.

deebird Loc: Mendo Coast, CA

In June I received my R7 from Shutterbug in Santa Rosa after ordering it only a couple of weeks beforehand. I don't know if they do mail-order.

junglejim1949 Loc: Sacramento,CA

deebird wrote:

In June I received my R7 from Shutterbug in Santa Rosa after ordering it only a couple of weeks beforehand. I don't know if they do mail-order.

Thanks

RJWagons Loc: Lake Ridge Virginia

I just went to a camera store and bought one about 3 weeks ago, though I think it was their only one. I'm liking it so far.

RJWagons Loc: Lake Ridge Virginia

My complaint is that there's little to no "help" available. Not much in the manual - plus the print is smaller than small for my old eyes - and the books I always like by David Busch won't be out for the R7 until March! Guess I'll learn by trial and error... unless someone else know of another helpful book or video . Mirrorless is a new adventure for me.

junglejim1949 Loc: Sacramento,CA

RJWagons wrote:

My complaint is that there's little to no "help" available. Not much in the manual - plus the print is smaller than small for my old eyes - and the books I always like by David Busch won't be out for the R7 until March! Guess I'll learn by trial and error... unless someone else know of another helpful book or video . Mirrorless is a new adventure for me.

Help content is restricted due to lack of final production models of R7 being available. There are two videos from Michael the "Maven" - R7 setup parts one and two, that runs through the camera setup and explanation of buttons etc.

junglejim1949 Loc: Sacramento,CA

Toby wrote:

Perhaps I didn't explain it clear enough in my earlier post but you got it right here. Canon simply sells more lenses when you buy the kit instead of just the body. Many do not need and will not buy the kit if possible. I wonder what the resale price is for their kit lenses (ie how much will i loose if I buy the kit and resell the lense?)

Kit with lens runs about $400 more

rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA

junglejim1949 wrote:

Kit with lens runs about $400 more

but how much can you resell the lens for?? How much of that $400 can you expect to get back??

rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA

accidental repeat

junglejim1949 Loc: Sacramento,CA

rehess wrote:

but how much can you resell the lens for?? How much of that $400 can you expect to get back??

B&H has used RF 18-135 $448.95

Architect1776 Loc: In my mind

junglejim1949 wrote:

I have no need for a kit lens. I have good glass that I like, so I ordered a converter. I will have to save for RF lenses down the road.
This is my preference.

Interesting.
I have L lenses but the 18-150mm looks like a super fit, good optics and easy to carry.

rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA

junglejim1949 wrote:

B&H has used RF 18-135 $448.95

So you might as well get the kit, then try to resell the lens. Yes, it would be easier and less expensive to purchase just the body, but just raise the price perhaps $100 in your head and get it.

SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA

LFingar wrote:

I'm still waiting for an explanation as to how, by... (show quote)

In business profit margin is one thing, but sales is king. Maybe by including that lens they made little profit on it, but they increased that sale by $400. And it really makes sense to include a lens since this is the first crop camera with this mount many people won’t have a lens to fit already.

SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA

RJWagons wrote:

My complaint is that there's little to no "help" available. Not much in the manual - plus the print is smaller than small for my old eyes - and the books I always like by David Busch won't be out for the R7 until March! Guess I'll learn by trial and error... unless someone else know of another helpful book or video . Mirrorless is a new adventure for me.

You need to download the PDF manual. Not only will it be complete, but you can adjust the text size to whatever you want.