I've been using Fences on my Win7 machine, and I wanted to use it on the Win8.1 computer. Apparently, Win8.1 requires a different version of Fences, and I haven't been able to get it working. The problem seems to be with Windows/Microsoft. It wants me to sign in with my MS account, whatever that is. Win8 gives me a full green screen with no choices other than signing in with MS. I have to use Ctrl-Alt-Del to get out of there and go to Task Manager. From there, I can get back to my desktop.

So, is there w way to use Fences Free with Windows 8.1?

I like to use a big floor jack to raise my cars, rather than the little thing that comes with them. In the past, I have cut a block of wood to put between the jack pad and the lower sheet metal of the car. I cut a groove in the wood so it's a good fit for the sheetmetal where the factory jack goes.

I'm trying something else, and I need suggestions. I bought two hockey pucks. I'll attach one on top of the other, so the one doing the lifting is high enough. Then I'll cut the appropriate groove into the puck.

I found that my table saw can easily cut a groove in the puck. Making multiple passes, I can make the groove as deep and wide as necessary. My question is, how can I hold the puck securely so I can make accurate passes without losing some of my fingers? I need some kind of holder to keep it steady and to prevent the rubber from dragging along the rip fence. The pucks measure 3" X 1".

Thanks GPappy and GrandmaJoy ... appreciate the comments.

And GPappy I know the pain of your loss well ... in the past 5 years I've lost three dogs, a miniature donkey I just adored and a cool old gentle horse. Cried like a baby each time and at age 68 not too proud to say that.

Brandi is getting pretty feeble and I'm trying to prepare myself for her time which I suspect is going to be soon. Have to leave all 3 of them in a kennel for a week next month and really hope she's there to greet me when I get back.