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Feb 8, 2023 11:14:39   #
Architect1776 wrote:
100-400mm or 100-400mm II?


II
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Feb 8, 2023 10:04:54   #
Blurryeyed wrote:
Don't get me wrong Paul, I enjoy your photography and your comments in general, but just because you can does not make it true either, I have read more than one review that suggests that if you already own the 100-400 II that upgrading to the 100-500 may not be worth the expense. I have been shooting an R5 for a couple of years now and have little interest in the 100-500, in my opinion there is not much to be gained by the additional expense.


For some people, it might not be worth the expense. That doesn't mean there isn't a significant improvement. The 100-400 was one of my most used lenses so an upgrade made sense. I also have a 300 2.8 IS II and was using it more than the 100-400. Now I'm using the 100-500 more than the 300. Don't imagine it, try it before you advise others on what to do.
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Feb 7, 2023 09:58:39   #
I made the switch but I use a R5. The 100-500 exceeded my expectations. Mainly the AF works much better with very consistent, precise focusing. The eye detect on birds is amazing. I think the bokeh is better too. The lighter weight is really a joy. I can carry it long distances. All this plus another 100mm. It is pricey. Google reviews and comparisons.
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Feb 1, 2023 12:39:57   #
Basil wrote:
I’ve only had my R5 a short time, so jury is still out on what RF lenses are in my future. I do have the RF 24-105 that came with the camera. I also have a bunch of EF lenses, but haven’t used each enough to know whether I feel a need to upgrade.
One exception is my Sigma 150-600. I took that to Bosque Del Apache recently. I set the lens (via the doc) and camera’s AF settings per Duade Payton’s suggestions. I was extremely happy with the performance. AF worked great as did Eye tracking. Even at 600mm I was very pleased with the results.
So, on the long telephoto front, I’m probably not going to be jumping on any RF lenses right away.
Also, my 50mm f/1.4 and 135 f/2.0 both so far seem to work great, but again I haven’t used them a bunch yet.
I have had my eye on the RF 35mm with IS as it is reasonably priced and has great reviews.
The other RF lens I’m seriously considering is the RF 70-200 f/4. I don’t usually need 2.8 for what I shoot and I like the f/4 compactness and light weight for hiking.
I’ve only had my R5 a short time, so jury is still... (show quote)


I found the 135 2L benefited more than most. I love the lens but, lets face it, it came out in 1996 and doesn't have the best AF. I shot my dogs running towards me with it and got a very high "hit" rate. I was lucky to get any with the 5D4. That said, I have preordered the RF 135 1.8. The RF 70-200 4L is one of my two upgrades. I hike and climb a lot, so the reduction in length and weight makes it much easier to carry and use. It tracks better too. The EF II version is a great lens though and if size and weight is not that important, it's probably not worth the change.
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Feb 1, 2023 11:31:43   #
I agree with the overall conclusion in the article. I had 12 EF lenses when I bought a R5 16 months ago. I have only upgraded two. All the EF lenses have better AF performance on the R5 vs. 5D4. No one says DSLRs can't produce beautiful images. Anyone who shoots mainly landscapes or in studio settings might not have any reason to switch. However, the R5's tracking, eye detect and fast, precise AF is a game changer if you shoot anything that moves.
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Jan 30, 2023 09:53:06   #
R5 on sale today. $400. off. Ring adapter $50. off.
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Jan 22, 2023 13:31:16   #
How many Canon users are going to dump their gear and buy Sony or Nikon so that they can buy a new Tamron lens? People bitch but the real impact on buying decisions is likely minimal.

People complain about RF lens prices but they are about the same as Sony and Nikon, at least in the US. The only major exception is Sony's 200-600 which is truly a bargain. Some of the non L RF lenses are really reasonable and Canon has already cut prices on a bunch of L lenses.
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Jan 22, 2023 12:16:00   #
Did anyone else notice that even after his long rant, Mr. Polin still recommends the R mount over Sony or Nikon to newcomers? I would wager that people who claim they won't buy Canon because of this are already using another brand. Canon's point that people have access to a vast array of EF glass is well taken. I had 12 EF lenses when I bought my R5 16 months ago. All of them have better AF performance with the R5 to varying degrees. So far, I've only replaced two with RF versions. Number three will be next week when my new 135 1.8 arrives. I don't have any others on my radar right now.

For anyone willing to buy used glass, Canon is a great choice. For instance, the EF 135 2L can be had for 500-600 and it is one of Canon's all-time great EF lenses.
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Jan 10, 2023 09:47:43   #
I have shot 2000 and still had some life left. High speed shooting does slow down when the battery is run down maybe 2/3. I use the viewfinder and keep the screen closed most of the time but keep the camera turned on between shots when shooting wildlife. 320 is absurdly low.
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Nov 27, 2022 15:55:29   #
A quick check of B&H shows about 70 RF lenses by niche manufacturers like Venus, Lensbaby, etc. I suspect Canon is OK with these since they don't compete with their own offerings.
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Nov 27, 2022 12:16:48   #
If you are starting from scratch, you have a lot of work to do. First, compare the cameras keeping in mind the type of photography you like to do. Check ergonomics too. Are the features easy to use? Sony is known to have the best dynamic range though the advantage isn't as great as it used to be. AF performance and now tracking are critical for me, but anyone doing landscapes on a tripod might not care.

Canon has been criticized for not allowing Sigma and Tamron to copy their technology and produce competing products. I bought a R5 over a year ago because I already had about a dozen EF lenses. Every one of them works better on the R5 vs. 5D IV to varying degrees. As someone else said, you can use any EF or EF-S lens made by any manufacturer since 1987 on the R mount. I have been very slow to buy RF lenses myself. The adapter with a control ring gives EF glass full RF functionality. For someone on a budget, this is a huge advantage. You can now buy outstanding used glass very reasonably. The RF catalog is filling out and some are very innovative. Some are very reasonable too. Take the 100-400 @ 499! They recently put a bunch of L glass on sale $200-400 off. This trend will continue. The 135 1.8 that was just announced sports buttons on the barrel that can control almost any camera function.

All the major brands have pro users putting out outstanding product. There really aren't any bad choices. Do the research and choose what works best for you.
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Nov 24, 2022 14:58:09   #
gwilliams6 wrote:
It has been widely discussed and Canon has issued statements, they are saying cease to all third=party makers who had made a few RF lenses and/or ready to release new RF lenses. Those makers have pulled those RF lenses and Canon is saying no more will be allowed in the market.

On the opposite side of this philosophy Nikon is now even opening up its Z-mount to Tamron and other third party makers and is even badging some Tamron mirrorless lenses as Z-mount.

Sony has had an open E-mount for a long time, and there are over 200 quality Third-party lenses in E-mount from Sony, Sigma, Tamron, Samyang/Rokinon, Zeiss, Yonguo, Viltrox, Tokina, and others. The E-mount is the most widely produced and used mirrorless lens mount in the world. With additional quality E-mount lenses being introduced all the time. That is part of the reason Sony leads in Worldwide Mirrorless camera sales. Check the CIPA numbers if you doubt that. Sony and now Nikon have decided it is better to allow more people with all budgets to be able to afford to fully embrace their mirrorless systems.

IMHO, as a longtime pro that has owned and shot with the best of Nikon, Canon, Sony, Leica in my 48+ years in the business, Canon is a big, and often arrogant maker that has lost sight of building up its base. Even Leica shares the mirrorless L-mount with Panasonic and Sigma (yes Sigma makes mirrorless cameras), using L-mount lenses from Leica, Panasonic, Sigma and other third-party makers.

Full disclosure, Tamron is partly owned by Sony.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Sony_E-mount_lenses

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_third-party_Sony_E-mount_lenses

As most photographers and industry experts worldwide agree, Canon is eventually hurting themselves in the marketplace just to keep a monopoly on RF lens sales, and Nikon and Sony will reap the benefits as it is a fact that many are now moving away from the R series and moving to Nikon Z-mount and Sony E-mount bodies where they will have a greater choice of quality E-mount lenses in all price ranges. It does matter to many around the world.

The still fairly limited RF lens series choices from Canon are either cheap kit lenses, or very expensive top quality RF lenses. Canon's RF lens lineup is still slow to fill out, and is nowhere as extensive as its mirrorless competitors, just the facts. Not everyone is willing to wait on Canon to slowly fill out its top RF lens lineup, and be forced to pay high prices for top quality Canon-only RF lens, if and when they are available. People have photos to make now, not later.

The top News Services around the world have moved to Sony and Nikon fullframe mirrorless for all their staff photographers and staff videographers, worldwide. They aren't waiting for Canon to fill out their RF Lens lineup either.

https://alphauniverse.com/stories/why-the-associated-press-just-switched-to-sony/

https://petapixel.com/2021/11/17/sony-is-now-the-exclusive-camera-provider-for-gannett-and-usa-today/

https://www.dpreview.com/news/4545693607/the-uk-largest-news-agency-partners-with-sony

https://petapixel.com/2022/01/31/canadas-largest-news-organization-moves-exclusively-to-sony-cameras/#:~:text=Canada's%20Largest%20News%20Agency%20Moves%20Exclusively%20to%20Sony%20Cameras,-Jan%2031%2C%202022&text=The%20Canadian%20Press%2C%20the%20largest,provider%20for%20the%20media%20company.

https://petapixel.com/2022/06/09/how-pro-photographers-helped-make-the-z9-from-prototype-to-flagship/

Cheers and best to you.
It has been widely discussed and Canon has issued ... (show quote)


It's no secret Canon was way behind on mirrorless development but the gap is closing. Some think it has already closed on the cameras.

However, none of these organizations went to Sony because they couldn't buy an R mount Sigma. Entirely different subject.

I, for one, am very happy Sony reentered the market in a big way. Competition is great.

Happy Thanksgiving!
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Nov 24, 2022 11:08:00   #
gwilliams6 wrote:
Hey I am sure an equal number of Nikon, Sony, Fuji, Olympus cameras are on sale as folks decide to go for improved models that have been introduced by all makers.

Folks will want to get as much value for their current cameras as possible, and usually the longer a model is around the more it depreciates as improved models are released.

And as an administrator and moderator of several Worldwide Photography Groups on Facebook with many tens of thousands of members around the world using all brands of gear, yes we are seeing group members say they are now moving away from Canon R cameras in part because of Canon's ban on third-party RF lens makers which restricts their affordable choices for quality RF glass, not the cheap kit RF lenses.

Some here live in a permanent fanboy bubble, but the reality is yes this Canon move has had a ripple effect around the world for many current and would-be Canon R buyers. It wont matter or effect what Canon management decides to do, but in the end it is Canon unnecessarily applying the cripple hammer again to itself.

Sometimes companies get so big and arrogant , they lose sight of how best to expand and take care of their base .

Smart to sell now, not later.

Cheers and best to you all.
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Couple of points: 1. It always struck me as surprising manufacturers would allow others to reverse engineer their products and become competitors. 2. Users have a myriad of choices both new and used from Canon and other manufacturers in the EF mount that work flawlessly on mirrorless via an adapter. For those who need or want to save money on glass, this is the way to go. 3. I have read (but can't confirm) that Canon is restricting others until they get their own catalog filled out. They don't want others getting products out ahead of them. They do allow manufacturers who make specialty products, like Lensbaby, to produce R mount lenses.
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Nov 20, 2022 15:38:40   #
amfoto1 wrote:
I disagree. The f/2.8 lens can't simply be called "better" and it's definitely not "way" better!

Sure, f/2.8 is a stop bigger so you have a little better ability to throw a background out of focus (though far less than an f/1.4 or f/1.2 prime lens offers).

BUT... There's no IS on the f/2.8 lens. The f/4 lenses can actually be better for low light shooting, with up to 4 stops of assistance from its IS.

Yeah, the f/2.8 is built like a tank. It's bigger and heavier than the 24-70mm f/4. Both are L-series, with similar build quality, sealing and durability.

Image quality simply isn't all that different. In fact, the 24-70mm f/4 very nearly matches the sharpness of the 24-70mm f/2.8 II. The f/4 lens' "worst" sharpness comparison is when wide open, around 50mm. You'll have a hard time seeing any difference in sharpness at other focal lengths. It often doesn't matter in images, but the f/2.8 lens has about a stop stronger vignetting than the f/4 lens. The two have similar flare performance at the wide end, but the f/4 lens is a bit more resistant at the 70mm end of the zoom range. And they have virtually identical distortion... minimal barrel at the wide end and pincushion at the tele end of the zoom.

The 24-70mm f/4 has MUCH closer focusing with its ability to shoot 0.70X magnification. That's more than triple the magnification possible with the 24-70mm f/2.8 II's 0.21X!

So, yeah... if you gotta have f/2.8, the EF 24-70mm f/2.8L USM II is "better". With it you also get a smidgen "better" image quality at some focal lengths and on some cameras slightly faster AF (cameras that can take full advantage of the larger aperture).

But if you want smaller and lighter with image stabilized low light capabilities, would like to leave your macro lens at home and want to save hundreds of $, well then EF 24-70mm f/4L IS USM would be "better".
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I used to own the 24-105 4L IS II and, in my experience, there is no comparison in any respect. I don't have time to dig out old reviews but here is the DxOmark sharpness grades:

On 5D IV:
24-70 f/4 18 (pretty good)
24-105 f/4 II 15 (not so hot)
24-70 2.8 II 21 (outstanding)

On 5DS R
24-70 f/4 21
24-105 f/4 II 14
24-70 2.8 II 32

Personally, I think AF performance is more important. The 24-70 has always been fast and accurate, among the best I've owned (a bunch.) It almost never misses. This includes a 77D I used to bring on hikes for lighter weight. The 24-105 was mediocre at best, especially at the long end. IMO, IS is a non-factor on 24-70. I didn't think 2.8 was very important until I bought one and discovered the creative benefit of a more shallow DOF. Rent one or buy a used one with a return privilege.
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Nov 20, 2022 10:09:16   #
I'll be a little contrarian here and advise selling them both and buying the 24-70 2.8L II which is way better than either of the f/4s. Buy a nice used one for around 1250., maybe less. Better resolution, better AF performance, better color. And it is built like a tank.
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