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Apr 27, 2018 20:59:36   #
drmike99 wrote:
Definitely worth rerunning (I think I found this here some months ago).

I don't agree with implications of this. I find myself taking fewer pictures with digital. With film I always took an extra in case something unforeseen went wrong, but with digital a quick glance at the screen is sufficient to assure me that I have enough.
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Apr 27, 2018 20:53:26   #
Besperus wrote:
This is what I was talking about. I am a bit of a car nut myself. Got started early going to sports car races in Monterey, California with my brother.

And then they started to copy this effect in cartoons??
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Apr 27, 2018 16:16:06   #
CatMarley wrote:
You may be missing the point. The point is that recognizing that (for instance) the light falling on your subject from the angle you are standing now is flat, and by moving to another position, the light will reveal depth and texture, you are CHOOSING what photons your camera will collect. Learning how to "see the light" WILL make you a better photographer. Getting xxx camera or xxx lens will not.

I will submit these two snaps again to illustrate. They were both taken at the same time with the same camera and lens, and the same light source - a window, The only difference was where the camera was situated. I chose the photons I wanted.
You may be missing the point. The point is that re... (show quote)

That's great if you are thinking as an artist. People like Nick Ut, or the Times Square photographer, had to shoot when the picture presented itself.
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Apr 27, 2018 13:03:26   #
CatMarley wrote:
Yes and all of the aspects of technique you mentioned, interact with the light. Ultimately it is that particular arrangement of the light you chose to collect with your lens that will be your image.

Yet, knowledge of photons doesn't do much to make one a better photographer. Once you get it down to that generality, you aren't saying much of anything. You're saying everything and nothing.
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Apr 27, 2018 12:24:14   #
CatMarley wrote:
But unless you explore from different angles, you do not know if they could be better. Light determines the dimensionality of the image.

Subjects tend to be over simplified here.

Light is important

Perspective is important

"The Moment" is important

DoF is important

Motion is important

Execution {level, focus, exposure, etc} is important

etc

Back in the film era, when I was shooting Kodachrome and had to get it right the first time, my wife became accustomed to a "five minute photo stop" stretching out to thirty minutes or more as I explored every angle if 'the moment' wasn't an issue, or perhaps waiting for the moment. Those habits continue to serve me well.
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Apr 27, 2018 11:20:18   #
Kiron Kid wrote:
“When you photograph people in color, you photograph their clothes. But when you photograph people in Black and white, you photograph their souls!”

-Ted Grant

When I was in high school, they took all yearbook pictures in B&W, but used pastels to color the 'senior pictures' they sold to parents. So, how did that work? Did they slip soul into colored pictures because they started with B&W or did they take the soul out of all the pictures somehow? And on the same subject, would drivers license pictures automatically improve if the hack at the BMV took them in B&W??
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Apr 27, 2018 10:03:40   #
SharpShooter wrote:
Rehess, I think I'm seeing something misleading here?
I'm certainly no optics expert but I can't begin to pretend to understand how one could add an adaptor to anything and increase it's light gathering abilities by two stops, from f1.2 to f.66? If anything its light gathering might DROP by two stops!
Now I can see that it might decrease the DOF to the equivalent of f.66 since it seems to be increasing the magnification by .5x.
But how can the distance to sensor be increased and the f-stop be increased? Add any distance between a lens and the Sensor and there is light drop-off, NOT light increase! Decrease the orifice and the same light decrease! Add both and it compounds. It's why Nikon can't make an AF f1.2 or faster lens!
This is very misleading. It seems to just be a controlled multiplier resulting in the DoF of an f.66 lens!!!
Maybe someone can explain this to me/us???
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Rehess, I think I'm seeing something misleading he... (show quote)

A Q-mount is roughly 25mm in diameter, so any adapter from a FF mount to the Q-mount will have the form of a funnel, but most of the adapters just throw away most of the light - they use only the light going thru the narrow cylinder that ends in the Q-mount mouth. The Metabones adapter has lenses that concentrate the light, so most of the light coming thru the wide FF mouth squeeze down to the Q-mouth at the other end. That is why the focal length is reduced .... and the aperture acts as though it is wider, because it really does deliver a higher density beam at the end than it started with - sort of a lower intensity version of using a magnifying glass to start fires.
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OEM K-to-Q adapter on left; third party K-to-Q adapter on right

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Apr 27, 2018 09:03:09   #
foathog wrote:
When you shoot Auto all the time you get the 'average lighting'. I don't comment on a lot of shots because to me they are bland. and sometimes I can't controll myself. LOL

The picture of the nurse kissing the sailor in Times Square at the end of World War 2 would have been a great picture under any sort of lighting. That an "F/8 and be there moment".

For you artists, light is paramount; for those of recording life, the moment is paramount.
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Apr 26, 2018 23:16:44   #
splatbass wrote:
No reason photography - or any other visual art - has to look real and natural.

It depends why you take pictures. My guiding mantra is "Photograph today before tomorrow comes and everything changes" - from my perspective, my photographs are not 'art' - they are a record of today.
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Apr 26, 2018 22:24:01   #
jsvend wrote:
http://hipspics.freewebspace.com/gas/gas.html

History like this is why, guided by my "capture my world today before tomorrow comes and everything changes" mantra, I capture many of the scenes I do photograph. Looking over pictures from thirty years ago, I was intrigued by the number of billboards advertising cigarettes that just happened to be on the edges of the scenes I captured.
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Apr 26, 2018 20:42:02   #
gwilliams6 wrote:
Sharpshooter, I spoke too soon. Meyers Optik announces 75mm f0.95 lens for Sony E-mount. So yes Sharpshooter there will be even faster than f1.0 lenses for Sony E-mount. Lens makers are loving making new lenses for this E-Mount. Sharpshooter, you must be clairvoyant about Sony.
https://www.sonyalpharumors.com/meyer-optik-announces-the-worlds-fastest-75mm-f-095-e-mount-lens/

Maybe Meyer Optik will also make this lens in Nikon and Canon mounts (maybe for the new Canon and Nikon fullframe mirrorless cameras). I think currently Nikon and Canon have f1.2 as their fastest glass. The future of cameras and lenses for all brands and mounts will be exciting. Cheers
Sharpshooter, I spoke too soon. Meyers Optik annou... (show quote)

I guess this will be practical lens.

On the other hand, Metabones has announced a special focal-reducing adapter that will allow one to mount Nikon F-mount lens on a Pentax Q-mount camera.
http://www.metabones.com/products/details/MB_SPNFG-Q-BM1

Mounting a 50mm f/1.2 lens via this adapter would give the same effect as a 25mm f/0.66 lens. This all sounds wonderful, but Pentax hasn't announced a new member of the "Q" family in 2-1/2 years (*) and no member of the family has an EVF, so I'm not sure who would actually purchase one of these adapters. I am thinking this is essentially a "look at what we can do" demo, and Metabones doesn't expect to sell many of them.

(*) I have a 4.65-crop Q-7 that I purchased 3-1/2 years ago, but no Nikon lenses.
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Apr 26, 2018 19:16:23   #
gwilliams6 wrote:
BTW, not my headline, but the headline attached to the video its author.

Yes, I should have said that .... and commented that I get no news, very little comment, via YouTube. Anyone can post there, say anything, regardless of credentials. That is why I searched the Internet for an edited source that I could read {I have a hard time analyzing a YouTube stream of words}
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Apr 26, 2018 18:29:56   #
gwilliams6 wrote:
Nikon 94 Million Dollars Loss! Will This affect Their Full-Frame Mirrorless Camera Play

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dC5yfTqGyQs

This is a very simplistic headline.

Truth: the true value of operating company is ultimately based on cashflow they are expected to generate over the long run; value is how much cash would generate same cashflow if stockholders invested same money elsewhere. Based on this standard of finance, Nikon is reducing valuation of one of their divisions. There is no loss of liquid assets, and I'm not sure why this would affect anything other than the stock market.
https://m.dpreview.com/news/2253932369/nikon-prepares-investors-as-95m-wiped-off-value-of-its-measuring-business
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Apr 26, 2018 13:57:44   #
suntouched wrote:
Agree. Many shots are taken in the middle of day in full sun which eliminates shadows and interesting parts of the image (depending on the direction of the sun) or images are very high contrast which is the opposite problem unless you are going for a high drama shot. In any case the light will make or break a shot. And as you said photography is all about the light.

It depends entirely what the photographer's goals are. For over fifty years now, I've been documenting my world as it is today, before tomorrow comes and everything changes. In that context, the rules are different, as I do want midday light since the details it allows me to capture are more accurate. In my context, composition is extremely vital, because perspective changes what story is being told.
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Apr 26, 2018 13:29:22   #
Easy, Plustek 810.
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