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Sep 28, 2017 02:19:04   #
Architect1776 wrote:
I hear many comments about this company is more innovative than the other.
I found this to be interesting about AF development as far as actual production consumer available AF cameras.

Minolta 1985 introduced their first AF camera
Nikon 1986 introduced their first AF camera
Pentax 1987 introduced their first AF camera
Canon 1987 introduced their first AF camera

Yet the only truly innovative camera of the bunch was Canon. The rest were just me too incremental and very primitive improvements of old antiquated systems and adaptations of worn out technology. Only the EOS was truly innovative and it has taken about 30 years for the rest to even begining to catch up with the innovations of the EOS system as a whole.
The point is Canon is slow, they observe and see what looks like it works or not.
They are derided for being behind right now. I think it might be interesting to see what comes out in the next couple of years.
Perhaps nothing or perhaps another leap leaving the competition behind for another 30 years. It just seems about right for something to happen.
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Unfortunately, innovation does not necessarily translate into commercial success, otherwise Polaroid would be at the top of the heap today.
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Sep 28, 2017 02:10:34   #
jerryc41 wrote:
Someone should have given more thought to the wording here. It reminds me of Jonathan Swift's "A Modest Proposal."

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Don't keep us in suspense ... which option did you choose?
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Sep 28, 2017 01:54:48   #
ChrisT wrote:
Yup, Sharp ... exactly my feelings, too ...

APS-C, preferably ... although, I have been known to use a bridge, occasionally ...

But, not a ONE of the 11 bridges I have, could EVER be considered "pocketable" ...


Switch to cargo pants and you'll have loads more choices.
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Sep 10, 2017 15:00:45   #
Peterff wrote:
Easy peasy! And our self appointed expert - a so called professional but simply a backwoods Nikon fanboy, MT Shooter doesn't know what he is talking about!

Try this software for Windows: http://www.eosmsg.com/

Yes, it comes from China - as do many good things (not all), but if you want a shutter count on a Canon camera this will do it accurately. It is not free, roughly $5 for each camera with unlimited use. Downloaded from the main site I have found it to be malware free (yes, I test downloads). It works just fine on my newly acquired EOS 80D and claims support for the 5DIV.

It seems that Dire studios also offers a solution that works.

I don't like to say this, but MT Shooter is out of his depth, and also integrity as a professional. He either doesn't know what he is talking about, or deliberately tells lies. Neither one of the two available options makes him a credible dealer to do business with. The saddest thing is that while he is knowledgeable on some things his over the top inaccurate blustery posts undermine his credibility on things that he does actually know about. The very worst kind of salesman, one that cannot be trusted.
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Thank you. I have been using eosmsg for some time now for my older cameras, but it did not work for the 5D4. Perhaps I need to get a newer version which may have been updated for the newer cameras. Thanks for the tip.
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Sep 10, 2017 14:57:29   #
Jakebrake wrote:
Please reread my post as well as my signature line and that will tell you what I use Dire Studios for.


Thank you.
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Sep 10, 2017 14:47:34   #
boberic wrote:
A rhetorical question. What is Canon so uptight about. Are they afraid of photographers knowing shutter counts?


Perhaps it helps them sell maintenance services if you have to send your camera in to get a shutter count.
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Sep 10, 2017 14:45:33   #
jerryc41 wrote:
Some links for Canon -

According to the list on their site, these are the Canon cameras supported for shutter count.
Canon EOS 1DS Mark II, Canon EOS 1DS Mark II, Canon EOS 5D, Canon EOS 60D, Canon EOS-1D, Canon EOS-1D Mark II, Canon EOS-1D Mark II N, Canon EOS-1Ds, Canon EOS-1Ds Mark II
“Shuttercount” app from Apple for Mac $1.99
http://www.direstudio.com/shuttercount
http://www.shutteractuations.com/canon-eos-camera-shutter-lifetime/
http://eosmsg.software.informer.com/download/
http://swainhart.org/how-to-find-the-shutter-count-on-a-canon-5d-mark-ii/
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Thanks so much for posting all the links. The Dire Studio web site says it needs a Mac OS for the 5D4. I'll try and get in touch with them to see if they have a newer version for Windows. I already have eosmsg and eosinfo which I use for older bodies. They don't work with the 5D4.

The shutteractuations.com seemed to only list expected shutter counts for various models. I don't know if they can alctually read the count of a particular camera.

Thanks again for your help.
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Sep 10, 2017 14:37:34   #
MidnightManiac wrote:
Purchased a used 5D a few months ago and wanted to know the shutter count as an FYI, the camera works fine. Tried a few of the programs suggested with no success. Emailed Canon and they said they would give me the shutter count at no charge BUT suggested a cleaning. Being a 12 year old Camera I agreed with the cleaning, which it probably needs because of its age. I have used Canon in New Jersey before for other bodies I have never had an issue. My camera arrived there yesterday, being the weekend I haven't heard anything yet. I can say their customer service is the best, they actually call you to discuss. As far as Canon being so secret about their shutter counts, that's a mystery to me.
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When I checked with Canon, they said they could tell me the shutter count only as part of a $129 maintenance service. https://www.usa.canon.com/internet/portal/us/home/support/self-help-center/canon-maintenance-service/!ut/p/z1/04_Sj9CPykssy0xPLMnMz0vMAfIjo8zifQM9LDw8nQ18DHyCnQwcA0xDXdydzfzNPMz0w8EKDHAARwP9KGL041EQhd_4cP0oNCuCLM0NHM1czDws_ZwMzHzN8SvwDDTFUBDmZAJUYOnibGzkBrIGqgCPKwpyQyMMMj3TAQ4v-5E!/#eosdigitalslr

Since my camera is less than 6 months old, I don't really think it needs this service.
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Sep 10, 2017 14:31:15   #
Jakebrake wrote:
Yep, that's the program I use as well. Works on all of my bodies, and I use Windows 10.


Do you also use it for the 5D4? According to their website http://www.direstudio.com/shuttercount/tech-specs/#cameras to us it on the 5D4 you ne d the Mac OS.
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Sep 10, 2017 14:29:33   #
Japakomom wrote:
I have been able to get the shutter count for my 5div from the Shutter Count app from Dire studios. I have a Mac but they have a version for Windows too. It does cost a few bucks.


Thanks for the info. Their website says that for the 5D4 it only works for the Mac OS. http://www.direstudio.com/shuttercount/tech-specs/#cameras

I'm hoping the documentation on their web is out of date. I'll check with their tech support tomorrow.

Thanks again.
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Sep 9, 2017 01:42:23   #
Does anyone know if it is possible to find out the number of shutter actuations for a 5D Mark IV? (I use a Windows OS). Many of the programs online, and in previous threads, do not work with the digic 6 processor. I also read that Canon introduced firmware limitations in its newest cameras so that the shutter actuation reading is not supported any more.
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Sep 4, 2017 15:31:41   #
Rongnongno wrote:
You might want to consider the difference between a snapshot and photography.


So, what is the difference ... other than pretentiousness?
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Sep 2, 2017 17:34:01   #
I've enjoyed reading this forum for a while, but this is my first post.

Most of us are "committed" to one brand (Canon, Nikon, Sony, or whatever), because over the years we have accumulated a lot of equipment from that manufacturer. Also, perhaps to a lesser extent, because the layout and menus don't challenge our comfort zone. What I'm curious about is how/why did you originally choose the brand you did?

In my case it was total ignorance. Back in the '80s I lived in England, and was visiting NYC as a tourist. I had a cheap point and shoot which was stolen from my hotel room. We passed a camera shop and I thought I'd pop in and buy another cheap point and shoot. The salesperson convinced me to buy an SLR, and I walked out with a Canon TX. When the digital age dawned, I briefly switched to a Kodak since DSLRs were then outside my price range. When Canon introduced the Digital Rebel and priced it at $999, I jumped back to Canon. Since then I've had the 20D, 50D, and finally graduated to the 5D. Strangely, I've never even considered switching brands when its time to upgrade!

What's your story?
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Sep 2, 2017 17:10:01   #
Japakomom wrote:
I am guessing that Canon has been burned too many times from credit card fraud/identity theft and is trying to cut down on losses from such.



Perhaps they should subcontract their sales website to B&H, Adorama, or someone who knows what they are doing.
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