Innovation
Sep 26, 2017 20:46:16 #
I hear many comments about this company is more innovative than the other.
I found this to be interesting about AF development as far as actual production consumer available AF cameras.
Minolta 1985 introduced their first AF camera
Nikon 1986 introduced their first AF camera
Pentax 1987 introduced their first AF camera
Canon 1987 introduced their first AF camera
Yet the only truly innovative camera of the bunch was Canon. The rest were just me too incremental and very primitive improvements of old antiquated systems and adaptations of worn out technology. Only the EOS was truly innovative and it has taken about 30 years for the rest to even begining to catch up with the innovations of the EOS system as a whole.
The point is Canon is slow, they observe and see what looks like it works or not.
They are derided for being behind right now. I think it might be interesting to see what comes out in the next couple of years.
Perhaps nothing or perhaps another leap leaving the competition behind for another 30 years. It just seems about right for something to happen.
I found this to be interesting about AF development as far as actual production consumer available AF cameras.
Minolta 1985 introduced their first AF camera
Nikon 1986 introduced their first AF camera
Pentax 1987 introduced their first AF camera
Canon 1987 introduced their first AF camera
Yet the only truly innovative camera of the bunch was Canon. The rest were just me too incremental and very primitive improvements of old antiquated systems and adaptations of worn out technology. Only the EOS was truly innovative and it has taken about 30 years for the rest to even begining to catch up with the innovations of the EOS system as a whole.
The point is Canon is slow, they observe and see what looks like it works or not.
They are derided for being behind right now. I think it might be interesting to see what comes out in the next couple of years.
Perhaps nothing or perhaps another leap leaving the competition behind for another 30 years. It just seems about right for something to happen.
Sep 26, 2017 22:45:58 #
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Architect1776 wrote:
I hear many comments about this company is more in... (show quote)
The Minolta was the first mass-produced autofocus camera - Nikon’s first was the pro F3-AF in 1983. Nikon also built a prototype 80 f/4.5 autofocus lens in 1971.
Sep 26, 2017 22:52:05 #
Sep 27, 2017 00:37:56 #
Sep 27, 2017 00:47:32 #
Sep 27, 2017 00:52:29 #
LoneRangeFinder wrote:
Someone feeling inadequate? LOL.
If you mean me, no. I’m not feeling inadequate. I’m just tired of rehashing this subject over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again.
Sep 27, 2017 00:57:22 #
BHC wrote:
If you mean me, no. I’m not feeling inadequate. ... (show quote)
Ditto.... but no I wasn't referring to you. I feel like this is a Seinfeld episode... a post about nothing.
Sep 27, 2017 04:31:55 #
I think Minolta was innovative. The Minolta Maxxum 7000 was the first SLR to have autofocus integrated into the camera body. That was a big step forward. I still have the next Minolta AF camera - the Maxxum 7000i.
Sep 27, 2017 05:32:55 #
"I hear many comments about this company is more innovative than the other."
THIS COMPANY???
Which Company...?? Did you never hear of Who, What, When, Where!!!
Minolta is in-body focus vs in lens. Sony has adopted this by buying Minolta. Sony has racked up many "camera of the year" awards... Innovation!
I have Sony A cameras... my old Minolta glass fits and works fine.
CO, Yes, I too had a 7000i.
THIS COMPANY???
Which Company...?? Did you never hear of Who, What, When, Where!!!
Minolta is in-body focus vs in lens. Sony has adopted this by buying Minolta. Sony has racked up many "camera of the year" awards... Innovation!
I have Sony A cameras... my old Minolta glass fits and works fine.
CO, Yes, I too had a 7000i.
Sep 27, 2017 07:13:31 #
Sep 27, 2017 07:16:42 #
Architect1776 wrote:
I hear many comments about this company is more in... (show quote)
You can't quantify "innovative" any more than you can quantify "beautiful." Introduction dates and numbers of units produced are hard data. To determine which company is the most innovative, you first have to decide what criteria you are going to use. Depending on your goal, you can choose criteria that make one company look better than another. Advertisers do that all the time.
Sep 27, 2017 07:47:55 #
Architect1776 wrote:
I hear many comments about this company is more innovative than the other.
The point is Canon is slow, they observe and see what looks like it works or not.
They are derided for being behind right now. I think it might be interesting to see what comes out in the next couple of years.
Perhaps nothing or perhaps another leap leaving the competition behind for another 30 years. It just seems about right for something to happen.
The point is Canon is slow, they observe and see what looks like it works or not.
They are derided for being behind right now. I think it might be interesting to see what comes out in the next couple of years.
Perhaps nothing or perhaps another leap leaving the competition behind for another 30 years. It just seems about right for something to happen.
Speculation about the future is pointless. The fact is that Sony is the one pushing innovation in the industry right now. How long that will last doesn't matter. At some point in time, every company has been considered innovative, eh?
Sep 27, 2017 08:32:05 #
Sep 27, 2017 08:36:07 #
mrjcall wrote:
Speculation about the future is pointless. The fact is that Sony is the one pushing innovation in the industry right now. How long that will last doesn't matter. At some point in time, every company has been considered innovative, eh?
I always wondered about the Sony hot shoe, and now I know. It's Sony pushing innovation in the industry. Way to go!
Sep 27, 2017 08:43:46 #
If you like Canon, that is OK, but don't try to tell all of us that Canon is superior to all other camera makers.
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