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Feb 26, 2021 12:54:25   #
I like it on download. Appealing composition, nice use of the negative space, the specks of white on the animal and the gauzy look of the foliage really work. Maybe increase the idea of the silhouette of the animal with selectively higher contrast just in that area.
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Feb 26, 2021 12:45:16   #
JustJill wrote:
What are these bright spots in the upper right hand corner of my photo?


Maybe glare. Could be made worse by using protective lens filter or not using lens hood or both.

Would not be too hard to fix in Photoshop or whatever.
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Feb 26, 2021 12:40:42   #
It's a good question. On the one hand someone with the expertise you want might be working on their own art so wouldn't want to spend time on yours. Of course paid work is paid work. On the other hand knowledgeable people with great eyes might be found as editors in art departments at various publications, as curators at public museums and galleries, as art profs at colleges, and similar places. So maybe chat up an institution near you and explain your situation.

Just thinking randomly about where I live, here we have Cleveland Museum of Art and they are very friendly in general. There is the Cleveland Institute of Art, Cleveland State University has a fine art department, maybe the prof that teaches the criticism class, the main library has a librarian just for the art section who could have plenty of resources, there are big and small galleries in certain areas of town.

Thinking nationally, of course the Smithsonian and the many DC museums would have knowledgeable people if you find the right person willing to talk, and of course NYC and the Met, MoMA, Frick and on and on.

So just rambling at this point, but maybe just make up a generic email to a few places where art people hang out and see if anybody answers.
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Feb 26, 2021 12:03:58   #
The downloads show off the sharpness.
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Feb 26, 2021 11:03:56   #
bclaff wrote:
The original post:

The quick answer:
Since you mention PhotonsToPhotos to are talking about Photographic Dynamic Range (PDR).
PDR is measured using a standard final image size and viewing distance (not unlike Depth of Field (DOF))
PDR also uses a Signal to Noise Ratio (SNR) criteria (unlike DxOMark which uses only read noise).
Since the DX image has to be enlarged more than the FX image the SNR is lower resulting in a lower PDR.
Pixel size does not matter.
Also, remember, we're talking about the capability of the sensor and not some specific image of a scene with a particular dynamic range (the horsepower of your car is the same travelling at 10 mph than it is at 55 mph you're just using less of it).
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In your view can I take it as a general principal that cropping an image, any image from any camera, will result in a loss of dynamic range compared to not cropping?

And would the loss be proportional to ____?

Or are there any generalizations one could carry into the field?
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Feb 26, 2021 10:44:45   #
That is pretty cool. I had no idea those tools were in Photoshop. I guess I usually would alt click to isolate one layer then repeatedly click the comparison layer on and off. As for side by side I know Photoshop will sync to a duplicate but will it sync to a separate file?
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Feb 26, 2021 09:55:39   #
Craigdca wrote:
I agree that R is where they’re going. Good to know there will be cheaper R lenses as I want their sharp quality. Until then, I like your plan to start with just the RP and use my current lenses as the results should be a huge improvement over my T2i.


They say the smart money bets on the glass. That's one thing I like about the R cameras, you get the entirety of EF lenses to pick from, and some of those slightly out of date but high quality EF lenses can be a relative bargain. For example I would rather have the rf 100-500 at $2800, or next in line I would rather have a used EF 100-400ii at $1800, but my photo budget allowed for A used EF100-400 version one for $800. Not my first or second choice, but still a quality lens for the money.
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Feb 26, 2021 09:40:42   #
Canisdirus wrote:
No, because not all FF have the same pixel density and size.

Since larger photosites can contain a greater range of photons, dynamic range is generally higher for digital SLR cameras compared to compact cameras (due to larger pixel sizes).


We are talking about the impact of cropping on dynamic range for an image from the exact same sensor on the same camera.
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Feb 26, 2021 09:33:29   #
selmslie wrote:
That's a simple way to look at it.

For the D850 you lose about a full stop of DR going from FX to DX, 1.5 crop factor. You lose a little more with Canon because the crop factor is 1.6.

The more rigorous method that Photons to Pixels uses gives us a more precise number but it's not much different.


So, roughly, I crop by 1/3 to lose one stop DR. I crop by 1/2 to lose _____? Would it be a simple ratio?
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Feb 26, 2021 09:15:36   #
Can we see a screenshot of the layers panel? Also, if you double click that camera raw smart layer to re-open it, do you still see the same settings you changed there? You should.

Final thought, the filter in the smart object layer is not an adjustment layer. Adjustment layers apply to the whole image unless you clip them to a certain layer or use the mask in the adjustment layer. The smart filter only applies to the layer it is attached to, so any normal layer above it will override, as mentioned above.
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Feb 26, 2021 09:06:54   #
So agreeing that cropping reduces dynamic range if the image is resized, by magnifying noise, is it possible to make a rule of thumb, even an approximate; for example for every x amount of area cropped you lose y stops of dynamic range?
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Feb 26, 2021 09:02:02   #
Canisdirus wrote:
A full frame sensor usually has larger pixels than a crop sensor...which gives it the edge in dynamic range.
That's why you see a drop off in the charts at DXO


In this case it is the identical sensor, though. The pixels are the same size.
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Feb 25, 2021 22:43:56   #
I'm not sure I understand the question. I believe The camera raw filter only is a smart filter if you have first converted that layer to a smart object, otherwise it just bakes the results into the layer you have selected. But I don't think that is your question?
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Feb 25, 2021 18:48:25   #
bclaff wrote:
Of course there would, whether you crop in camera or later the effect is the same, you still have to enlarge more to make the same image size.


I mean if I only needed a final image of say 1000x1500 out of a 4000x6000 sensor. Just taking that slice out and using it as is wouldn't reduce dynamic range would it?
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Feb 25, 2021 18:42:59   #
So thinking of some real world cropping scenarios, let's say I have a 4000x6000 sensor:

1. If I only need a final image of 1000x1500 I could fill the frame and downsample or not fill the frame and use a cropped portion of the image. More dynamic range with fill the frame?

2. If I need 4000x6000 I could fill the frame and use all pixels or not fill the frame and resize the crop up to 4000x6000. More dynamic range with fill the frame?
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