I got this request as a PM but it occurs to me that maybe somebody else wants to know what I did.
OldNotMold wrote:
Chuck, can you describe the techniques you used to isolate the statue "Forward" from the background in your post on July 5? I'm just learning PS and would appreciate at least a high level synopsis. I don't want you to spend a lot of time creating an instructional video or anything too time consuming, just list steps and tools used and any other additional "notes" that might make process clearer. I understand that in some areas of the photo it would be fairly easy to isolate the desired part from background (good contrast between the two regions). But in other parts of the pic, the difference in contrast or density or ??? might be more problematic. I appreciate your help....
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I am using Photoshop Elements 11. I think this will work with Photoshop or almost any of the Elements, esp. the later versions. When making a separation like this, I use a variety of selection tools. In this case I started on the statue and its plinth (pedestal, whatever :lol: ) with the
Quick Selection Tool to make a fairly quick and dirty overall selection. I love this tool because it quickly snaps to the edges of a selection, but not perfectly. OldNotMold, you are absolutely correct; unless there is strong contrast the Quick Selection is apt to get either too much or too little. So you have to start the (frankly rather) tedious process of finishing out the selection. I use all three selection tools as needed. I rarely use the lassos or marquee tools. I think what I do is faster. Personal preference.
When refining I like to work the
Selection Brush with the image at
at least 100%, or larger, whatever it takes to get the best selection I can (it honestly takes a lot of patience, which I am lucky to have, having spent years hand-retouching negatives). I keep my selection brush hardness about 85%. I work in
selection mode rather than
mask mode, but its purely a personal preference. I usually keep the brush in ADD mode, but when I need to subtract I can just press the OPTION (ALT on a PC) key and the tool instantly switches to subtract. If I make a mistake I usually just back up in History. I go around the entire edge of the selection to refine it. It's tedious.
I will switch back and forth from selection brush to quick selection and even use the Magic Wand Tool, usually at a tolerance of 5 to 10% and contiguous only. That tool is really good in very tiny areas. I change my brush sizes as needed, using the bracket keys. the [ bracket makes the tool smaller; the ] bracket makes it larger, all very quickly.
I usually dont use any of the marquee tools. I should say that
I do all this with a mouse, not a tablet. Ive often thought that I would like a tablet, but I dont care much for the prices. :lol:
When I have made the best selection I can I will then
Refine Edge, available in the Quick Selection or Magic Wand tools. I think Im (as usual) getting too long-winded, but I do have specific presets I use with that. There is a tool within the tool that allows for refining very fine detail, such as around hair or trees. I've been watching tutorials on how to use the thing, which is how I got into this mess in the first place. :lol:
After that I made a gradient adjustment layer and put in that gray thingy, but several folks suggested that was pretty blaaaah (they're right) so I went back to discover that (1) I forgot to save my selection :oops: and (2) I apparently cannot turn the existing mask into something I can use for something else. :evil: So I had to reselect the whole thing (as described), and then I started fooling around with other backgrounds and just using the Move Tool to drag and drop
Forward into other pictures (great fun!). :lol:
I hope this helps. I am not and never will be an expert at anything. I hope I know what I dont know. Im here to learn stuff, but if I can help I will! :D :thumbup:
I got this request as a PM but it occurs to me tha... (