Boone Loc: Groundhog Town USA

If you sign up for the monthly subscription to LR, will you be able to work on your files off line? or do you need to be connected? Happy Easter!!!! Thanks, Boone.

bsprague Loc: Lacey, WA, USA

You normally work offline because the CC subscription plan is designed for you to download the software (you are renting) to your computer. But, your computer needs to "check in" about once a month to verify you are paying your bill. I read somewhere that your computer won't shut you completely off for about 90 days so you can live in the jungle or travel to a country with crappy internet.

Gamache Loc: Clarissa, MN

You do NOT have to be online to use LR. You just need to go online once a month to validate your subscription.

Dngallagher Loc: Wilmington De.

The name Creative Cloud gives the impression that all storage, work and programs are "in the cloud", but far from it.

When you subscribe, the software you want is downloaded and installed on your computer just like when purchased from a store on disk.

Your images are stored where ever you want them stored, and when you wish to edit an image, you load the editing software from your disk and work on your images, just like always.

The difference is the licensing. A Creative Cloud subscription means you are leasing the software, and the software will need to check in with Adobe to verify that your subscription has not lapsed. This should be transparent to you, but happens every 30 days or so.

I have used the Photographer's package, 10.00 a month, Lightroom & Photoshop - can't beat the price, and you get every update & upgrade at no cost other then your normal subscription rate.

I am always connected to the internet BTW, so never had a licensing issue.

Boone Loc: Groundhog Town USA

Wow....! That was fast. Thank you guys for the QR! I thought that was how it worked.

That answers my question. Again, thank you all. Boone. :thumbup:

Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)

You only need to connect once a month. And if you miss the whole ET Phone Home thing, Adobe does not cut you off. They will send you an email reminding you to connect the computer that has LR on it to the Internet so it can validate your install.

And yes, you can certainly work on your images when offline.

mborn Loc: Massachusetts

Right on

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Capture48 Loc: Arizona

Others have said it well, but I would like to add that you don't own any software you purchase. If you read your Office, or OS license. It specifically says you are purchasing a license to use their software, you never owned it. Most software is this way, nothing has changed, and I agree this cloud thing is confusing to many and a rather dumb marketing program.

OldNotMold Loc: Just North of

Can the software be used on two computers at the same time, a desktop and laptop for example? I understand that the library (in LR, for example) would be difficult to manage unless one transported it from one to the other, etc., etc. I was just wondering if the cloud subscription offered the possibility of multiple computers for one subscription like some other software. I'm not looking to cheat Adobe here... just wondering. There might be some cases (extensive traveling, for example) where one might want to do some LR adjustments on pictures on laptop while away from one's desktop and then go back to desktop once home. LR mobile (never used it) is limited, I believe, and not all that useful? Thanks in advance for your replies... much appreciated.

mborn Loc: Massachusetts

I use LR on my desktop and my laptop when I am traveling. On my laptop I store the images on two separate external HD then when I return home download to my desktop. Adobe does allow this

Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)

If you buy one license you are entitled to use it on one machine. If you want to use it simultaneously on two machines, you'll need two subscriptions, or what is commonly referred to as a multi-user site license. Adobe does offer this, but I am guessing there won't be a price advantage for just 2 licenses.

Place your image files and Lightroom catalog and preview files on a fast, USB 3 external hard drive. This way you keep one working copy of the catalog and you can move the whole thing from one machine to another. LR's catalog is not multi-user - at least not yet. Naturally, if you go this route, you'd need either a second external drive as back up, or use one of the drives in either machine for this purpose. But if you commit to using the external drive, you should never use the back up that is on an internal drive, because everything will get out of sync.

Capture48 Loc: Arizona

You can install on two machines, but you can only use it on one at a time. In other words to log in with your laptop, you need to be logged out of your desktop.

Ovhnfinity

Yes you can. I use it on my Mac Pro and my MacBook Pro.

forjava Loc: Half Moon Bay, CA

No disagreement. What happened at the business level was that Adobe took an amazing leap to transition to a subscription model in which you pay as long as you use CC applications. Previously, you coughed up a chunk of money up front with no further obligations. The CC model leads to predictable revenue and more of it. I've not checked lately but it looks like Adobe's transition is becoming successful at the business level, following a down period during the riskiest phase of the transition.

In the new subscription model, typical of cloud arrangements, you pay for services, like the services you get from the apps in CC. In cloud setups, the service sometimes is hosted remotely by the vendor and sometimes you -- the customer -- host it remotely or, like CC, locally.

If operating conditions were ideal, and they are not, you should want the vendor to host applications for you so you don't have to install and update them and worry about evolving your equipment for running it flawlessly. At least, Adobe updates CC so that the maintenance issue recedes. As a cloud architect, I don't think it is technically practical to host LR and PS remotely, for several reasons.

Wrapping up, Adobe's subscription model and Adobe's maintenance model are often used in the cloud. The hosting is done in your own private, local cloud, that is, your local computer setup. And so is your storage, until you get around to using the huge CC remote cloud storage -- https://helpx.adobe.com/creative-cloud/kb/file-storage-quota.html. I am comfortable with Adobe calling what they do a cloud.

As for updates, I have seen a few inconsistencies pop up as CC error messages, which I have ignored, without bad results. I will let others do the work to tell Adobe about it all and I expect the company to have essentially zero such events rather soon.

Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)

The one thing that many seem to overlook is the fact that without having to develop parallel platforms (subscription and perpetual license), they can dedicate all of their resources to bolstering one product line - subscription model. The benefit is clear - 3 major upgrades and at least 5 updates in the past 20 months. Before CC, you were lucky to see an upgrade every 18 months, and it often was disappointing. New "features" felt more like beta test that were not ready for prime time - or put another way someone in marketing saying "include this feature, even if it is not ready, so the user community can imagine the future state of our software." Now the stuff "feels" finished and polished. Most of the issues seem to be from users that have not gotten their hardware updated.