How would you answer this question?
Feb 25, 2018 16:13:50 #
I don't know about the comments that the OP should be giving away the pictures for free. In fact I am not a pro and thus I would be giving away pictures that I took for free even if it's a print and it would cost me money to print it. However, if I ever ask people to pay for my pictures I would not give them away for free and not at a price where I lose money either.
Feb 25, 2018 16:16:11 #
Gene51 wrote:
Totally agree, but at least the photographer has taken the high road and made it possible for her to get a "free" shot - a most reasonable offer. If she chooses to entrench herself in her little world, that's her loss.
Feb 25, 2018 17:03:47 #
Tomcat5133
Loc: Gladwyne PA
Anything for Mom is free. My mother passed away and I would give her anything she wanted.
My wife's mother needed some help in her later years until she passed at 89. I paid her rent
and anything she needed. I was glad I was in a position to do that then.
That said I moved to Florida and I have 3 star soccer players here. Shooting soccer sometimes
on ground level on the sidelines is difficult. And my son is always looking for video for the oldest
16 who has colleges like Penn looking at him for their teams.
I admire your work with hockey another sport probably more difficult then soccer. And the setup
shots sound great.
My wife's mother needed some help in her later years until she passed at 89. I paid her rent
and anything she needed. I was glad I was in a position to do that then.
That said I moved to Florida and I have 3 star soccer players here. Shooting soccer sometimes
on ground level on the sidelines is difficult. And my son is always looking for video for the oldest
16 who has colleges like Penn looking at him for their teams.
I admire your work with hockey another sport probably more difficult then soccer. And the setup
shots sound great.
Feb 25, 2018 19:39:45 #
"Just like you have to pay for your son's school pictures or wedding photos. I'm in business as a professional photographer just trying to earn a living"
Feb 26, 2018 05:48:43 #
Jaackil wrote:
“Why should I have to pay for a picture of my own ... (show quote)
Obviously, she doesn't have to pay, but she should. Years from now, what will she have to remember these days? She'll have either nothing or poor quality pictures. Some people expect everything for nothing.
As for the sarcasm - temping but counterproductive.
Feb 26, 2018 06:07:32 #
You're dealing with a hockey mom so you're never going to win anyway. If the child is worth it to you then I'd just give her the file on a cheap disc in RAW and leave it at that. Don't know your level of involvement with the team but her ignorance will come and go. The respect her child has for you years up the road will far outlast her ignorance today.
Feb 26, 2018 06:09:30 #
billnikon
Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
Jaackil wrote:
“Why should I have to pay for a picture of my own ... (show quote)
This is your problem. Time to put your big boy pants on and take care of business. Are you going to come here every time you have a problem? This is not the PROFESSIONAL way to handle your problems. PRO'S do not air their dirty laundry. They TAKE CARE OF THEIR PROBLEMS THEMSELVES. GROW UP.
Feb 26, 2018 06:14:13 #
Yes it's a Very tricky one .
I get it a lot with People I have photographed at events etc ( not Children ).
" You take a photo of me , then you want to profit from it ? " is a common reply I get .
Unfortunately with these sort of people a photographer can never win the argument ..
They have their mind made up already ..
If asked I always offer a standard postcard size image via email for free .
You quote your prices in Dollars so I assume you are in USA / Canada / ..
in which case you are lucky to be able to take photo's of Children and Teenagers at events etc ..
Here in UK Doing that could very easily bring unwanted Police attention .. who would ask ' Why are you taking
Pictures of Children /Teenagers' ? and possibly put the photographers name on a Database .
I get it a lot with People I have photographed at events etc ( not Children ).
" You take a photo of me , then you want to profit from it ? " is a common reply I get .
Unfortunately with these sort of people a photographer can never win the argument ..
They have their mind made up already ..
If asked I always offer a standard postcard size image via email for free .
You quote your prices in Dollars so I assume you are in USA / Canada / ..
in which case you are lucky to be able to take photo's of Children and Teenagers at events etc ..
Here in UK Doing that could very easily bring unwanted Police attention .. who would ask ' Why are you taking
Pictures of Children /Teenagers' ? and possibly put the photographers name on a Database .
Feb 26, 2018 06:30:00 #
Jaackil
Loc: Massachusetts
billnikon wrote:
This is your problem. Time to put your big boy pants on and take care of business. Are you going to come here every time you have a problem? This is not the PROFESSIONAL way to handle your problems. PRO'S do not air their dirty laundry. They TAKE CARE OF THEIR PROBLEMS THEMSELVES. GROW UP.
Richard, obviously this is your issue. Last time I checked this forum is for people who are interested in photography to come together and share ideas and thoughts. No one is airing dirty laundry. Just asking a simple question. From the responses it appears there is interest in this topic among a lot of other people also. Your response is hardly professional however, it’s rank amateur. Is that the best you could come up with “put your big boy pants on”? I do feel sorry for you though bless your little heart, your life is so miserable you have to come on here to berate others anonymously. SMH.
Feb 26, 2018 06:48:31 #
"You're not paying for a picture of your son - you're paying for my effort and skill to produce it."
Feb 26, 2018 07:01:37 #
I would ask if they have ever taken a family portrait at a professional studio, JC Penny, Sears or anywhere else? Professional photography costs money and this was a professional photography session. If the parent didn't want to pay for her sons picture she can buy the calendar. Heck, even the school charges for their photos. You have nothing to apologize for.
Feb 26, 2018 07:26:55 #
Jaackil wrote:
“Why should I have to pay for a picture of my own ... (show quote)
If she asks a question like that, then fine. You don't want her for a client because she will nit-pick and argue every price and expense. She is the type that would buy a 5,000 square foot house in a wealthy neighborhood and then complain that the utilities are $200 a month higher than an acquaintance of hers that lives in a 1200 square foot house that has all of the energy saving add on's. She wants steak for the cost of peanut butter. This is the person that would buy a point and shoot and complain that her photos weren't as good as the guy down the street that is shooting high fashion with a Hasselblad. In her case, you as the photographer just smile and that while you understand her concerns, she is NOT WELCOME to photograph at the rink that YOU rented unless she pays you $50 for the use of the rink (that you paid for), OR she can buy the images from you at your above stated price. However, with her mentality, she would probably get her husband to pay you the $50 and then complain that you are ripping them off. With some people, you just bite the bullet and walk away. LOL what she will probably do is use her point and shoot to take a photo of a friends poster then pay Rite-aid or CVS to process it for her. As a photographer, you have to learn to walk away sometimes.
Feb 26, 2018 07:31:40 #
Tom G
Loc: Atlanta, GA
BboH wrote:
"You're not paying for a picture of your son - you're paying for my effort and skill to produce it."
Excellent reply.
Honest, Accurate, To the Point, and not Sarcastic.
Feb 26, 2018 07:34:52 #
Are your skills, time and talent offered to others for free? What is there that is so hard to understand?
If you do a job like everybody else you need to be compensated. I bet if she has a daughter that is getting marry she will pay $4000 to have her wedding photographed by a professional wedding photographer.
If you do a job like everybody else you need to be compensated. I bet if she has a daughter that is getting marry she will pay $4000 to have her wedding photographed by a professional wedding photographer.
Feb 26, 2018 07:37:48 #
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