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May 30, 2017 09:01:20   #
suntouched Loc: Sierra Vista AZ
 
elliott937 wrote:
The Pelikan is a definite consideration, until you consider plane changes. For us, it will take three planes to get from St. Louis to Stockholm. If it were just one plane, I'd do the Pelikan check-in in a heart beat. But any regular traveler knows that two flights is a risk, and that three different planes is very high risk of ""lost or misdirected luggage"". That is what stops me from doing check-in with a Pelikan.


Are you talking about a Pelican case?

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May 30, 2017 09:01:39   #
catchlight.. Loc: Wisconsin USA- Halden Norway
 
I travel a lot to Stockholm and Oslo from the Midwest.

Do not hide items in you main check in luggage! This is where you will become a victim.

Use a Pelican and "declare" the extra value when you check in your luggage. I have done this many times and it will insure you get it and the value is covered by the airline.

Use zip ties and put an extra set in the pelican with instructions...photo and keep the serial numbers.

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Anyone aware of some kind of camera case for just the camera body go inside the main piece of luggage?I would like to avoid checking an additional piece of luggage which only contains my camera body.[/quote]

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May 30, 2017 09:01:47   #
Bear2 Loc: Southeast,, MI
 
I apologize for not reading all the responses to this post, BUT.....
Why could we not remove the battery from the camera, and show to TSA when checking in, and place the battery in a Pelican or similar case in our checked bag?
OR, if that is still a concern, buy a charged battery for your camera after you get off the plane at most major airports? (Make arrangements with local camera stores in advance, even if necessary, prepay for a new charged battery on arrival)?
Duane

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May 30, 2017 09:05:02   #
catchlight.. Loc: Wisconsin USA- Halden Norway
 
Batteries are fine for check in and carry on if installed in a device. Extra batteries must be carried on with a coverring like cellophane.

You can not put extra batteries in check in baggage.
Bear2 wrote:
I apologize for not reading all the responses to this post, BUT.....
Why could we not remove the battery from the camera, and show to TSA when checking in, and place the battery in a Pelican or similar case in our checked bag?
OR, if that is a concern, buy a charged battery for your camera after you get off the plane? (Make arrangements with local camera stores in advance, even if necessary, prepay for a new charged battery on arrival)?
Duane

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May 30, 2017 09:10:52   #
berchman Loc: South Central PA
 
insman1132 wrote:
Maybe a good reason to stay home and travel within our own country?? Lots to see and do!


There may be lots to see and do in the USA and I've seen and done some of it like canoeing in the Boundary Waters, staying at a working ranch in Montana, hiking in Glacier National Park, etc., but you can't see herds of wildebeests migrating, prides of lions feeding on a fresh kill, leopards up in a tree, elephants drinking from a water hole as in Africa, and you can't see the Great Wall of China, nor the Pyramids, nor the Blue Mosque, nor a whole bunch of other things that are more than worth seeing.

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May 30, 2017 09:12:22   #
Bazbo Loc: Lisboa, Portugal
 
elliott937 wrote:
Thank you Joe. I share the same concern, and why I've always carried my camera bag into the cabin, even to go under the next seat if not in the overhead, but never tossed below with the luggage.

In our household, we're also researching the $600 Panasonic LUMIX camera, (recommended by you folks) as perhaps the safest camera to take in the future. You all and I have read fellow members who actually were in a foreign country, only to learn of a new imposed ban, and had to come up with an alternate way to get their camera back into the US. So this reality is not really a new one. Considering current events, it may become a regular travel ban for a time to come.
Thank you Joe. I share the same concern, and why... (show quote)



"I've always carried my camera bag into the cabin, even to go under the next seat if not in the overhead"

Do you mean under the seat next to yours?

In my experience, people are pretty territorial about their shrinking leg room. I know of no fliers that would allow you to expropriate that space.

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May 30, 2017 09:27:43   #
lsimpkins Loc: SE Pennsylvania
 
billnikon wrote:
Yet another reaction post. The ban MAY be on laptop computers. MIGHT BE. Might be is not IS. The sky is not falling, the world in not flat, Y2K did not happen. Let's all settle down folks.


Thank you.

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May 30, 2017 09:35:23   #
MtnMan Loc: ID
 
elliott937 wrote:
No disrespect, and I'm responding to your "No, they didn't", I'm here to tell you that I watched the live interview on Fox news broadcast, between Secretary Kelly and the Fox news person. And he precisely said he is planning on the ban. And yes, the ban would be for in-the-cabin electronics. I'll repeat, with three different planes for the trip, checked in luggage would be similar to a Las Vegas gamble.


Your fear is silly. I have been on hundreds of flights with multiple plane changes. In recent years bags misconnected only twice and I got them back. The last time, going to Africa, they paged us in Customs and told us the bag had been left in Amsterdam and would arrive the next day. Fortunately we had a day before heading into the bush.

Losing bags has become much less frequent since the universal use of bar codes.

But getting your equpment damaged or stolen are another matter. Insurance is necessary for that.

Alas insurance doesn't help if you are going on a $10,000 safari.

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May 30, 2017 09:38:38   #
Martino Loc: Northwest Florida
 
The main risk here is putting large numbers of batteries together in the hold of an aircraft. Knowing that batteries can self ignite, and then produce their own oxygen could cause a major conflagration in the hold. Fire suppression systems could not cope. That's a major safety worry that's been highlighted by pilots and airlines.

Homeland Security and by extension, the US Government, don't care about international business or world tourism. This extends to other governments in UK and Australia who are considering the same policy.

Yes, we must combat terrorism but we must do so in sensible and considered ways.

I believe the Israeli government and El Al have operated safely for many years with regards to civil aviation, but they operate different screening policies.

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May 30, 2017 09:44:55   #
bull drink water Loc: pontiac mi.
 
the terrorist [one small tail] is wagging one mighty big dog [the American people]. in their effort to protect u from "every" danger they [the Gov] I taking away our freedoms and making everyday life a bitch. from now on we'll buy a ticket stay home, and watch a film of our trip.

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May 30, 2017 09:45:35   #
Mary Kate Loc: NYC
 
breck wrote:
Well no longer will I be visiting the USA for holidays


Your loss.

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May 30, 2017 09:47:46   #
Nick_PJr Loc: Arkansas
 
Does this include film cameras? Also, what about the news crews now? How will this impact their equipment? Rentals there?

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May 30, 2017 09:48:23   #
StanRP Loc: Ontario Canada
 
Bill Emmett wrote:
I can't imagine why a camera in the luggage compartment of a airliner is safer than in the cabin section. Exactly what are they trying to save us from? As of now, every laptop, camera bag, carry on, purse, wallet and even baby diaper bags are x-rayed, hand searched, wiped, and scrutinized by every means available. Packing this equipment in a armored Pelican Case or other method, and storing it into the bilge of the airliner does not give me any further sense of safety. What it does do, is separate the traveler from his most expensive prized possession, cameras, laptops, and other items. It sounds like a airline thieves wondrous dream of well identified, easy targets to steal. I think it's time for the flying public to make statements about this insane practice to their Congressional Representatives, and if that falls on deaf ears, stop flying. On my last trip to New Hampshire, I had to remove my skin tight knee brace, just to have it closely scrutinized for some unknown substance, but I was not asked about my undies. My wife was asked to remove her bra, since there is a metal part sewn into the thing. The laptop ban would really hurt business men, and women, with lost productive time while flying from office to office. I can't image doing a engineering report on a cell phone, with drawings etc. or a professional photographer, who does post processing while flying from one assignment to another. I have watched an enormous amount of professionally packed freight go onboard these airliners, why aren't these cartons not scrutinized, and responsible parties standing by as these cartons placed onboard? Why aren't these freight cartons opened and rummaged through by the TSA.

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I can't imagine why a camera in the luggage compar... (show quote)



The laptop ban would really hurt business men, and women, with lost productive time while flying from office to office.


This could empty the "business class" seating on aircraft.

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May 30, 2017 09:49:51   #
Mary Kate Loc: NYC
 
StanRP wrote:
The laptop ban would really hurt business men, and women, with lost productive time while flying from office to office.


This could empty the "business class" seating on aircraft.


That, I doubt.

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May 30, 2017 09:57:08   #
mikeroetex Loc: Lafayette, LA
 
elliott937 wrote:
No disrespect, and I'm responding to your "No, they didn't", I'm here to tell you that I watched the live interview on Fox news broadcast, between Secretary Kelly and the Fox news person. And he precisely said he is planning on the ban. And yes, the ban would be for in-the-cabin electronics. I'll repeat, with three different planes for the trip, checked in luggage would be similar to a Las Vegas gamble.


You may want to go watch again and turn up the volume. Thanks to the Miracle of DVR, I just wasted 20 minutes to watch the entire interview. He clearly responded, "I might." He played his cards close to the vest. Every question Wallace asked about electronics and expansion, he said, "I might." They do plan to tighten security. No timetable given. No scope of restrictions defined. He even talked about possibly having to separate carry on items from carry on bags into different scanners because people are stuffing bag too full to avoid $25 bag check fees and the TSA agents can not properly evaluate.

But no policies or plans have been enacted or put in place concerning electronics for all flights. Why are you spreading unfounded hysteria? Get a grip folks. The sky hasn't fallen and an asteroid is not on its way to hit earth. And even if they do tighten up, just deal with it. Shipping ahead or packing a camera body separate from lenses do not constitute the end of human civilization as we know it!
Geez, and I was gonna be mellow this morning.

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