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May 29, 2017 11:01:34   #
elliott937 Loc: St. Louis
 
Okay, when we thought it couldn't become more frustrating, it now has. This morning, Home Land Security Secretary Kelly has announced that he is planning on a ban, both into and out of the US, of all electronics larger than a cell phone. He further said that these plans have been in discussion at most US airports and airlines. (Keep in mind, the last electronic band was announced virtually over night.)

Now, before anyone thinks I'm suggesting that these bands are totally wrong, I want to go on record in believing these bands are in our best safety interest.

That said, I plan to contact our hotel in Stockholm to see if I can ship my Canon DSLR to them, in advance of our trip.

Plan B? Does anyone know of a very very small high resolution dedicated camera that we should be considering? I'm referring to one that could be nearly as small as a cell phone?

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May 29, 2017 11:03:14   #
BebuLamar
 
No cameras? Can I bring my Pentax S3?

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May 29, 2017 11:04:28   #
rjaywallace Loc: Wisconsin
 
And they say "travel is broadening" ...

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May 29, 2017 11:04:33   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
elliott937 wrote:
Okay, when we thought it couldn't become more frustrating, it now has. This morning, Home Land Security Secretary Kelly has announced that he is planning on a ban, both into and out of the US, of all electronics larger than a cell phone. He further said that these plans have been in discussion at most US airports and airlines. (Keep in mind, the last electronic band was announced virtually over night.)

Now, before anyone thinks I'm suggesting that these bands are totally wrong, I want to go on record in believing these bands are in our best safety interest.

That said, I plan to contact our hotel in Stockholm to see if I can ship my Canon DSLR to them, in advance of our trip.

Plan B? Does anyone know of a very very small high resolution dedicated camera that we should be considering? I'm referring to one that could be nearly as small as a cell phone?
Okay, when we thought it couldn't become more frus... (show quote)


They will have to do what I suggested a couple of weeks ago. Have everyone fly naked and bring no luggage. The airlines can hand out robes to passengers as they board. Shopping at their destination will help the local economy.

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May 29, 2017 11:06:49   #
BobHartung Loc: Bettendorf, IA
 
elliott937 wrote:
Okay, when we thought it couldn't become more frustrating, it now has. This morning, Home Land Security Secretary Kelly has announced that he is planning on a ban, both into and out of the US, of all electronics larger than a cell phone. He further said that these plans have been in discussion at most US airports and airlines. (Keep in mind, the last electronic band was announced virtually over night.)

Now, before anyone thinks I'm suggesting that these bands are totally wrong, I want to go on record in believing these bands are in our best safety interest.

That said, I plan to contact our hotel in Stockholm to see if I can ship my Canon DSLR to them, in advance of our trip.

Plan B? Does anyone know of a very very small high resolution dedicated camera that we should be considering? I'm referring to one that could be nearly as small as a cell phone?
Okay, when we thought it couldn't become more frus... (show quote)


I've been watching this problem, and I think that it bodes ill for the International Travel Photography Industry.

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May 29, 2017 11:08:35   #
rgrenaderphoto Loc: Hollywood, CA
 
Part of the institutional paranoia is the issue of electronics with removable parts that could conceal explosives. The current TSA thinking is over laptops and tablets, but I have heard anecdotally
of DSLR users being subject to extended searches of equipment. The solution could be a non removable lens camera like a Sony RX100M or RX1.

Alternatively, you could get a Pelikan case sizes for your gear, pay the $50 or $100 and check it in as luggage. In that case, document the contents with a photograph and make sure you have a camera rider on your homeowners insurance or a separate policy.

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May 29, 2017 11:10:04   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
BobHartung wrote:
I've been watching this problem, and I think that it bodes ill for the International Travel Photography Industry.




Except those few with private jets.

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May 29, 2017 11:10:52   #
DaveO Loc: Northeast CT
 
rgrenaderphoto wrote:
Part of the institutional paranoia is the issue of electronics with removable parts that could conceal explosives. The current TSA thinking is over laptops and tablets, but I have heard anecdotally
of DSLR users being subject to extended searches of equipment. The solution could be a non removable lens camera like a Sony RX100M or RX1.

Alternatively, you could get a Pelikan case sizes for your gear, pay the $50 or $100 and check it in as luggage. In that case, document the contents with a photograph and make sure you have a camera rider on your homeowners insurance or a separate policy.
Part of the institutional paranoia is the issue of... (show quote)



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May 29, 2017 11:13:19   #
elliott937 Loc: St. Louis
 
The Pelikan is a definite consideration, until you consider plane changes. For us, it will take three planes to get from St. Louis to Stockholm. If it were just one plane, I'd do the Pelikan check-in in a heart beat. But any regular traveler knows that two flights is a risk, and that three different planes is very high risk of ""lost or misdirected luggage"". That is what stops me from doing check-in with a Pelikan.

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May 29, 2017 11:18:01   #
oldpsych Loc: Phoenix, Arizona
 
Anyone aware of some kind of camera case for just the camera body go inside the main piece of luggage?I would like to avoid checking an additional piece of luggage which only contains my camera body.

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May 29, 2017 11:21:53   #
DaveO Loc: Northeast CT
 
oldpsych wrote:
Anyone aware of some kind of camera case for just the camera body go inside the main piece of luggage?I would like to avoid checking an additional piece of luggage which only contains my camera body.


I usually protect my spare camera and put in in my suitcase, so if need be, I'll pack both. I have insurance if needed.

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May 29, 2017 11:25:32   #
Big Bill Loc: Phoenix, AZ
 
elliott937 wrote:
Okay, when we thought it couldn't become more frustrating, it now has. This morning, Home Land Security Secretary Kelly has announced that he is planning on a ban, both into and out of the US, of all electronics larger than a cell phone. He further said that these plans have been in discussion at most US airports and airlines. (Keep in mind, the last electronic band was announced virtually over night.)

Now, before anyone thinks I'm suggesting that these bands are totally wrong, I want to go on record in believing these bands are in our best safety interest.

That said, I plan to contact our hotel in Stockholm to see if I can ship my Canon DSLR to them, in advance of our trip.

Plan B? Does anyone know of a very very small high resolution dedicated camera that we should be considering? I'm referring to one that could be nearly as small as a cell phone?
Okay, when we thought it couldn't become more frus... (show quote)


" This morning, Home Land Security Secretary Kelly has announced that he is planning on a ban, both into and out of the US, of all electronics larger than a cell phone."

No, they didn't.
They banned them in the cabin.
Others figured it out, or actually read more than a headline.

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May 29, 2017 11:28:05   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
elliott937 wrote:
The Pelikan is a definite consideration, until you consider plane changes. For us, it will take three planes to get from St. Louis to Stockholm. If it were just one plane, I'd do the Pelikan check-in in a heart beat. But any regular traveler knows that two flights is a risk, and that three different planes is very high risk of ""lost or misdirected luggage"". That is what stops me from doing check-in with a Pelikan.


On my first trip to Maui, the plane stopped on Oaho (I think), and I had to transfer. My luggage was allowed to remain on board, and it was waiting for me when I arrived. Strange.

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May 29, 2017 11:29:09   #
gthopkins Loc: Stratford, CT
 
Will they eventually ban the use of cameras in the US? Many of the lakes and public water areas ban photo - taking as a precaution. They don't want anyone having photos that can be used to cripple or poison water supplies. Areas where power lines or telephone equipment is operational are also off limits. Photo-taking at airports or boat docks has also been discouraged. Pretty soon, we will be only able to do selfies against a neutral background while being monitored. A form of terrorism at its finest. The more freedoms we lose, the more terrorism wins. Terror-ism.

That said (sliding my soapbox under the desk), I don't disagree with taking precautions. I do agree with intelligent response. I disagree with fear-based reaction. Locking all the doors and windows and sealing up all access gives the wolf time to plan while those inside suffocate. Which is what the wolf wanted in the first place.

I apologize for my rant. I get frustrated looking back and seeing all the freedom we have lost or given away. Some due to incredible greed, some due to closed-minded stupidity, and loads more due to fear.

It's Memorial Day, here in the states. I am very grateful to all those who have served, sacrificed and given their lives so that we who live in this already great country can be free. Thank you for your service!!!

-Greg

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May 29, 2017 11:29:14   #
BobHartung Loc: Bettendorf, IA
 
elliott937 wrote:
The Pelikan is a definite consideration, until you consider plane changes. For us, it will take three planes to get from St. Louis to Stockholm. If it were just one plane, I'd do the Pelikan check-in in a heart beat. But any regular traveler knows that two flights is a risk, and that three different planes is very high risk of ""lost or misdirected luggage"". That is what stops me from doing check-in with a Pelikan.


Consider Amtrack to Chicago, then a non-stop to Stockholm ( AA flies this route). Only one flying leg that way.

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