Beware of Windows 10? (Page 3): I have heard and read too many bad things about Windows 10 and I will not use it. Windows is trying to give me a free upgrade...but NO WAY!!!

RICARDOOO Loc: Findlay, Ohio

philz wrote:

I downloaded Windows 10 to my desktop and found that Lightroom barely worked afterwards. Nothing but fits and starts and long delays. So I reverted back to Windows 7, which you can do easily thanks to Microsoft in Windows 10, and Lightroom rocked again. Anybody else have this kind of experience with Lightroom or Photoshop? Is Windows 10 really this bad for photography work or is it just my computer?

I have heard and read too many bad things about Windows 10 and I will not use it. Windows is trying to give me a free upgrade...but NO WAY!!!

Peterff Loc: O'er The Hills and Far Away, in Themyscira.

RICARDOOO wrote:

I have heard and read too many bad things about Windows 10 and I will not use it. Windows is trying to give me a free upgrade...but NO WAY!!!

And cameras steal your soul! Never take a selfie and be careful when you go outside there are security cameras everywhere.

Kuzano

Peterff wrote:

It could be considered more than borderline intrusive. It is possible to turn things off, but Murkysoft didn't make it easy to find them all, and some seem to keep resetting to the on state.

Many people will just stick with the defaults if past experience is anything to go by.

Welcome to life in the goldfish bowl.

One might add, the "goldfish bowl" has been in existence for much longer than Windows 10. You can thank Social Media, and hackers for that, among many others.

At least somebody is paying more attention to them, and making the problem much more apparent to the consuming public.

Frankly, that awareness is a plus feature of Windows 10. How many people paid NO attention to the "goldfish bowl" before this rollout of Windows 10. We definitely need an educated user at every computer out there.

Don't blame Microsoft for the privacy issues. They did not start all this. The awareness they are raising is long past due.

authorizeduser Loc: Monroe, Michigan

philz wrote:

I downloaded Windows 10 to my desktop and found that Lightroom barely worked afterwards. Nothing but fits and starts and long delays. So I reverted back to Windows 7, which you can do easily thanks to Microsoft in Windows 10, and Lightroom rocked again. Anybody else have this kind of experience with Lightroom or Photoshop? Is Windows 10 really this bad for photography work or is it just my computer?

Beware of Windows 10 is right. Windows 10 is a complete mess. I have returned to Windows 7 as Windows 10 is very restrictive. For one, the start menu is a joke and not as configurable as on Windows 7 but the final nail in Windows 10's coffin for me was the inability to control updates. You are required to accept whatever Microsoft wants to send your way and you have no way to stop it, I don't think so ........
I might look differently on Windows 10 if they allow me to decide what updates I will accept like Windows 7 does but until then I want nothing to do with Windows 10 and will stay with Windows 7.

Peterff Loc: O'er The Hills and Far Away, in Themyscira.

Kuzano wrote:

One might add, the "goldfish bowl" has b... (show quote)

Remember Scott McNealy's quote from the 90s: "You have no privacy any more, get over it!"

I'm not blaming Microsoft for creating the issue, but they have very deliberately set the intrusive and invasive capabilities in Windows 10 to on by default and it takes more effort and skill than many will take or possess to shut them down.

Mr PC Loc: Austin, TX

Computer guy here. We've got maybe 50 upgrades under our belts at this point. Running the PC Check first is a good idea. You don't want to learn this lesson the hard way after a big download, and maybe a 2 hour intall process, only to find out your graphics card isn't supported yet and you need to revert to your old operating system. In my case, my own ASUS Ultrabook, about 2 years old, lost the webcam and the trackpad had limited functionality, even though it had many gestures available before. After about a week, software updates from Microsoft and ASUS cleared up both problems. You have until the end of June next year to do it for free, if you are concerned after running PC Check, I would wait a while and try again after the driver database is a little bigger. Once running, I like it a lot. For a complete redo, it's been reasonably solid on most machines so far, usually old hardware or software are at the bottom of issues. Good luck.

nsilberma Loc: San Jose, Calif.

LR5 works fine on my computer with WIN10.

Haydon

Kuzano wrote:

DOS has NEVER!!!! been gone. It still underlies al... (show quote)

That's very true Kuzano. But it's now a layer instead of an OS :) Mind you that dates back to 95 becoming a layer.

Peterff Loc: O'er The Hills and Far Away, in Themyscira.

authorizeduser wrote:

Beware of Windows 10 is right. Windows 10 is a co... (show quote)

No, it is wrong. With W10 pro you can control updates and there are ways to do so with W10 home also.

Most updates to an OS are a good idea unless you really know what you are doing, and many people don't.

The people that keep their software up to date appear to be having relatively few problems. Most of the problems being discussed on UHH seem to be user issues of some sort or inadequate preparation.

The Windows 10 warnings being made on UHH have about the same level of accuracy as most of the photography related posts, which should not be surprising since cameras are computers too these days.

Photobud Loc: Palmetto, Florida

I had no problems downloading Windows 10 onto my laptop. All programs work fine including Lightroom. Even calendars were updated with all saved information. Everything works faster and with less problems than with 8.1 in the past.

jimmya Loc: Phoenix

philz wrote:

I downloaded Windows 10 to my desktop and found that Lightroom barely worked afterwards. Nothing but fits and starts and long delays. So I reverted back to Windows 7, which you can do easily thanks to Microsoft in Windows 10, and Lightroom rocked again. Anybody else have this kind of experience with Lightroom or Photoshop? Is Windows 10 really this bad for photography work or is it just my computer?

I'm only curious but did you try the compatibility settings to set the program as if it were running in W7?

At the moment I'm not interested in the upgrade for just this reason... my video editors may not work in 10.

Delderby Loc: Derby UK

Kuzano wrote:

Regarding Antivirus, prevailing logic is that Windows 10 comes with improved (same as 8) AV called Windows Defender. Other AV software is not necessary and not recommended because running two AV programs routinely causes conflicts (slowdowns)
Until I find otherwise, my program will be to trust Defender, as I did on Windows 8.1, and run MalwareBytes for spyware. AV and Spyware programs typically do NOT conflict each other.

After my laptop fried I have today taken delivery of a Lenovo 64bit laptop pre-loaded with Win10 by the manufacturer. As I have an existing Avast subscription (Internet security) I installed it to the new computer. At the end of the installation Avast warned me that there was a conflicting prog (Widows Defender) and recommends un-installing Windows Defender.
I think Microsoft should publish more info about what they are providing - how do I know which AV is best - although I think I am getting more with Avast. I also have Avasts clean up app.

Delderby Loc: Derby UK

jimmya wrote:

I'm only curious but did you try the compatibility settings to set the program as if it were running in W7?

At the moment I'm not interested in the upgrade for just this reason... my video editors may not work in 10.

They should work - but you can always go back if they don't. I asked Serif about this for PhotoPlus - they told me no prob.

Royalruler Loc: Rancho Cucamonga

I found that the Windows 10 update from Win 7 was not best a Clean install of Win 10 worked much better with LR and other applications. There are just to many factors to be taken into consideration doing an update to Win 10.

Peterff Loc: O'er The Hills and Far Away, in Themyscira.

Royalruler wrote:

I found that the Windows 10 update from Win 7 was not best a Clean install of Win 10 worked much better with LR and other applications. There are just to many factors to be taken into consideration doing an update to Win 10.

This is a good point, but I think there are various things to take into consideration.

With the upgrade, all of your previous stuff should still be there and work, assuming it worked properly before the upgrade and all the appropriate checks have been made.

With the upgrade, if it works OK, then it is the simplest and quickest way to get to W10, plus if you don't like it for whatever reason you can roll back and maybe try again later.

The downside of the upgrade is that is it keeps all of your old stuff, including anything that was broken, not needed, or not wanted such as viruses, malware and anything else.

A clean install on a reformatted disk is in many ways preferable, but take a lot more time and effort because everything has to be reinstalled and there is a risk of losing data unless you are very careful and have everything properly backed up.

A clean install will however be like a new computer, not a refurbished computer, and any malware will be gone unless you reinstall it along with something else in the rebuild process.