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sony rx10iv good for long Europe trip vs sony a7iii and 3 lenses? other suggestions?
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Jan 8, 2023 09:31:33   #
dbfalconer Loc: Salida CO
 
larryhav wrote:
I went to Iceland 2 years ago with my Canon 5D IV and two high end lenses. Another person on our trip had the Sony rx10iv. She was getting shots that I was missing because I was constantly changing lenses to get the right shot. After the trip we shared photos and the quality of her photos, at least on the computer, were every bit as good as mine. I am sure mine were better if we compared the photos after they were enlarged but neither of us planned to do that. That got me to reconsider my photography needs as I am not a professional photographer and only use the camera for traveling. So, I made the leap and sold all my Canon gear and purchased the Sony rx10iv. I used it all last year on 5 different trips through Europe and Canada and was very glad I made the switch! No more backpack filled with camera gear. I also like that the size of the RX10IV body is similar to the size of my Canon 5DIV so it felt good in my hands. I would definitely recommend making the switch to the Sony RX10IV or one of the similar bridge cameras. I have a friend that has the Panasonic bridge camera and is happy with that.
Good luck and msg me if you have any specific questions about the camera.
I went to Iceland 2 years ago with my Canon 5D IV ... (show quote)

On our Iceland trip I felt frustrated that I rarely had time to change lenses or ‘do photography.’ And I was at max for luggage weight. Will have a different mindset this time.

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Jan 8, 2023 09:33:21   #
dbfalconer Loc: Salida CO
 
Lastcastmike wrote:
I’ve had the “IV” now for about 4-5 years and take it with me everywhere. Great travel camera. It’s versatile. You don’t have to stop to change lenses. You get more shots. Takes great pictures and with some of the latest noise reduction software you can get keepers up to 3200. Good luck.


Yes, this is very helpful. Thanks.

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Jan 8, 2023 09:35:24   #
dbfalconer Loc: Salida CO
 
Bayou wrote:
The RX10iv is quite a bit bulkier than the a7iii. Possibly heavier, too, depending on lens choice on the a7iii. You may be carrying a bit less overall with the RX10 than the a7iii with three lenses, but the RX10 is a lot more in the hand while shooting. It's surprisingly large. Be sure you handle one before buying.


Good idea. I held one only briefly last week.

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Jan 8, 2023 09:47:26   #
markngolf Loc: Bridgewater, NJ
 
dbfalconer wrote:
I took Sony a7iii and 3 lenses to Iceland. Would like to travel much lighter for long European junket. Thinking of Sony rx10iv. Rather pricey but like the 600mm reach. Pros/Cons? Other suggestions? Has weather sealing, RAW/JPEG. 20mp 1" sensor. I do print but just for personal use...no gallery show or sales likely! Thanks. Diane


I purchased the same Sony for a Danube River cruise in 2018. It was so convenient vs the 40 lbs of equipment I usually took everywhere. The images were excellent. Now, it is the only camera I have. I sold my 2 Canon DSLR's and lenses in 2020.
Mark

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Jan 8, 2023 09:57:07   #
wmurnahan Loc: Bloomington IN
 
My travel is the rx100vi unless I'm going on a birding vacation. The zoom range covers the same range of lenses I started with in the mid 70's when I bought my first system, and Sony's digital zoom is more than just a zoom in on the digital file so is not bad giving me even more than 200 mm if needed. And all of this fits in a shirt pocket and has a flash. That is a whole bag full of photo gear in my shirt pocket, add a small tripod I've had since the 70's that folds to about 6" and I have, other than my big 200-600, all the gear that fills a camera bag in two pockets. I think the rx10 would make a great choice for your trip over a big bag full of equipment, I have a hard time seeing any difference, when printed to 9x13, between shots with my rx100, 6500, and 7ii

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Jan 8, 2023 10:42:53   #
dbfalconer Loc: Salida CO
 
markngolf wrote:
I purchased the same Sony for a Danube River cruise in 2018. It was so convenient vs the 40 lbs of equipment I usually took everywhere. The images were excellent. Now, it is the only camera I have. I sold my 2 Canon DSLR's and lenses in 2020.
Mark

Thanks! More and more convinced!

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Jan 8, 2023 10:43:35   #
47greyfox Loc: on the edge of the Colorado front range
 
I’m not using the same equipment as you but the dilemma has often been the same. A few years I made the decision to go from lug to light. Last month, my wife and I went to Egypt for Christmas and did the usual touring near Aswan, Luxor, Giza, and Cairo. I brought along a Canon G1x iii (24-70mm equiv) and a Canon G3x (24-600mm equiv). I took about 800 shots including a handful over in camera panos. In the end, over 80% of the trip images came from the G1x, the sweet spot being 40-60mm. Of the other approx 20%, about half needed the extended range of the G3x to pull off.

The Pano Lumex suggestion is a good one, however since you’re already familiar with the Sony system, I personally think the best combination would be a RX100 iii-vii and a RX10iv (or maybe the XH99). Actually, in the end, you’ll probably be surprised how much you relied on the RX100 (regardless which version you have).
Enjoy your trip and remember to always carry a minimum of one extra battery (for each).

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Jan 8, 2023 10:43:42   #
dbfalconer Loc: Salida CO
 
wmurnahan wrote:
My travel is the rx100vi unless I'm going on a birding vacation. The zoom range covers the same range of lenses I started with in the mid 70's when I bought my first system, and Sony's digital zoom is more than just a zoom in on the digital file so is not bad giving me even more than 200 mm if needed. And all of this fits in a shirt pocket and has a flash. That is a whole bag full of photo gear in my shirt pocket, add a small tripod I've had since the 70's that folds to about 6" and I have, other than my big 200-600, all the gear that fills a camera bag in two pockets. I think the rx10 would make a great choice for your trip over a big bag full of equipment, I have a hard time seeing any difference, when printed to 9x13, between shots with my rx100, 6500, and 7ii
My travel is the rx100vi unless I'm going on a bir... (show quote)


I’m developing a new mindset. Thanks.

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Jan 8, 2023 10:45:54   #
dbfalconer Loc: Salida CO
 
47greyfox wrote:
I’m not using the same equipment as you but the dilemma has often been the same. A few years I made the decision to go from lug to light. Last month, my wife and I went to Egypt for Christmas and did the usual touring near Aswan, Luxor, Giza, and Cairo. I brought along a Canon G1x iii (24-70mm equiv) and a Canon G3x (24-600mm equiv). I took about 800 shots including a handful over in camera pants. Over 80% of the images came from the G1x, the sweet spot being 40-60mm. Of the other approx 20%, about half needed the extended range to pull off. The Pano Lumex suggestion is a good one, however since you’re already familiar with the Sony system, I personally think the best combination would be a RX100 iii-vii and a RX10iv (or maybe the XH99). Actually, in the end, you’ll probably be surprised how much you relied on the RX100 (regardless which version you have).
Enjoy your trip and remember to always carry a minimum of one extra battery (for each).
I’m not using the same equipment as you but the di... (show quote)

Thanks for these details. I better consider the RX100 vs RX10.

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Jan 8, 2023 10:52:33   #
Luft93 Loc: Finger Lakes, NY
 
dbfalconer wrote:
I took Sony a7iii and 3 lenses to Iceland. Would like to travel much lighter for long European junket. Thinking of Sony rx10iv. Rather pricey but like the 600mm reach. Pros/Cons? Other suggestions? Has weather sealing, RAW/JPEG. 20mp 1" sensor. I do print but just for personal use...no gallery show or sales likely! Thanks. Diane


II have had the RX10iv since it was introduced and absolutely love.it. It’s capabilities give me a feeling of do anything power. For travel when you don’t k ow what will come up you will be glad you have it. Europe is that kind of place-
In addition to cards and battery support the only loose item to carry is a polarizing filter.
This advice from a 94 year old pro/professor if that might mean anything.

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Jan 8, 2023 10:56:08   #
dbfalconer Loc: Salida CO
 
Luft93 wrote:
II have had the RX10iv since it was introduced and absolutely love.it. It’s capabilities give me a feeling of do anything power. For travel when you don’t k ow what will come up you will be glad you have it. Iceland is that kind of place-
In addition to cards and battery support the only loose item to carry is a polarizing filter.
This advice from a 94 year old pro/professor if that might mean anything.

Absolutely! Really Appreciate your input. Thanks.

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Jan 8, 2023 12:54:06   #
ORpilot Loc: Prineville, Or
 
imagemeister wrote:
I have several postings here on UHH showcasing the RX10m4 - check them out. For me, the images at 100-200 ISO are GREAT - ISO 400 acceptable - beyond ISO 400 I am not liking - but I only shoot JPEG - if you shoot raw and KNOW what you are doing, maybe 800 ISO and beyond is OK ??
The RX100m7 may be a better option for you ?? (smaller/lighter) - OR BOTH ! Since the RX100m7 is almost 2 years newer than the RX10m4 - it has more focus points and probably a slightly better sensor FWIW......
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I also own both RX100v and RX10iv. I would take them both. But, If I needed slightly better quality, I would go with my Sony a6500 and both kit lenses and one of the RX as aback up.

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Jan 8, 2023 13:21:38   #
bwana Loc: Bergen, Alberta, Canada
 
dbfalconer wrote:
I took Sony a7iii and 3 lenses to Iceland. Would like to travel much lighter for long European junket. Thinking of Sony rx10iv. Rather pricey but like the 600mm reach. Pros/Cons? Other suggestions? Has weather sealing, RAW/JPEG. 20mp 1" sensor. I do print but just for personal use...no gallery show or sales likely! Thanks. Diane

I've been on several trips with a Sony RX10 IV and an A7 III with 24-105 lens. On the last two trips I never took the A7 III out of the bag. The Sony Rx10 IV did everything I required PLUS it has a flash which was really handy on a few occasions.

bwa

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Jan 8, 2023 13:47:38   #
stevefrankel
 
It is not the bulk and weight of the three lenses vs. the RX10 that matters; it's what you carry when you leave your hotel or cruise ship. I bought an RX10 a few years ago to use on cruises, but I quickly found it needed to be lighter and less awkward to carry around all day. I returned to carrying a maximum of 2 lenses at any given time out of 5. I'm now shooting Fujinon APS-C lenses on a Fujifilm X-T5, but the same kit can easily be assembled as a 3-lens Sony kit: 23mm, 50mm, and 90mm F2 primes, and 10-24 and 18-55mm zooms. If I want to go lightweight and fast, I'll mount the 23mm on my camera and keep the 50mm in my pocket. Or, for street shooting in cities, I mount the 10-24mm and keep the 50mm in my pocket. For wildlife, it may be the 90mm F2 in my pocket and the 10-24 on the camera...you get the idea. I keep the kit back in the room in a PeakDesign Medium Cube that fits in my carry-on spinner bag, and I usually use a sling camera strap and a pocket when I'm shooting. I'm 79 years old and use a cane or a Drive Medical Nitro Euro Style Rollator walker, and even for me, and this works out fine.

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Jan 8, 2023 14:30:30   #
61jhawk Loc: Tarrant County, Texas
 
I took the RX10 iv with me on an Alaskan trip lasting 20 days last year because I didn't want to carry my DSLR and 3 lens. In general, I was very happy with it, its sharpness and its reach. The only time I wished for my dslr was in a few low light situations going after moving animals. The autofocus was a little slow in those situations. I made prints as large as 13 x 19 from several of the shots and they were great. I also cropped several pics and that worked out well. There was a long learning curve with that camera for me. I shot it for several months prior to the trip and still was learning more about it the first couple of days on the trip. I was very happy with it and would do it again.

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