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Jul 15, 2022 01:08:18   #
rmorrison1116 Loc: Near Valley Forge, Pennsylvania
 
ImageCreator wrote:
Do we ask the surgeon about his tools? Do we ask the mechanic about his tools? Why not? Because nobody cares. The mirrorless fanatics are constantly crowing how great they are to justify their overpriced equipment. The difference of the artwork is not the tool, but the Masters hand.


But without the paint and brushes (tools) the masters hand is somewhat useless as far as the art is concerned.

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Jul 15, 2022 01:10:40   #
rmorrison1116 Loc: Near Valley Forge, Pennsylvania
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
A great chef can achieve wonders in the kitchen with only basic ingredients and the right attitude, the rest of us are always left wondering whether his camera has a mirror.


Maybe you are. I don't care what camera the chef has, as long as he/she can cook.

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Jul 15, 2022 01:12:43   #
rmorrison1116 Loc: Near Valley Forge, Pennsylvania
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
If we gave two people a digital camera and lens, and after a week we learned one camera was mirrorless, who do you think would be the better photographer?


The one who knew what they were doing, regardless of the camera.

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Jul 15, 2022 01:14:59   #
rmorrison1116 Loc: Near Valley Forge, Pennsylvania
 
For all those who were so concerned about this conversation going 8 pages, it's up to 14...

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Jul 15, 2022 01:53:02   #
gwilliams6
 
nealbralley wrote:
As has long been said and attributed to the photo journalist, Arthur Fellig, "f/8 and be there!" What camera, or type of camera you use, is mostly immaterial. Being ready, prepared, and knowing how to use what you have once you arrive on the scene is key. A good modern DSLR with decent glass can absolutely deliver for you. Can a mirrorless deliver for you? Sure, it can deliver for you if you are good. Shoot with what you have, and buy what you need!


Sorry ,not completely true. As a photojournalist of over 48 years in the business shooting every subject around the world, including war coverage, I have used the best DSLRs and yes made many award-winning shots.

But the truth is the advantages of my mirrorless gear give me a distinct competitive advantage over DSLR shooters. The best mirrorless have far superior and far faster focusing abilities than DSLRs due to taking focus directly off the sensor. That alone can make or break getting that decisive shot.

Mirrorless EVFs can shoot 30fps at full resolution with no viewfinder blackouts and with continuous autofocus, critical when following a fast subject in action, sports, news or wildlife. The Z9 can even shoot 120fps in reduced size. No DSLRs can overcome the mass issues with their mechanical shutters to do that fast fps shooting, or overcome viewfinder blackouts with that flopping mirror. .

EVF allow you full preview of all your camera and exposure settings including histograms BEFORE you take the shot, and then you can review that shot in the viewfinder without ever taking your eye off the viewfinder . No need to take your eyes away from the viewfinder to chimp after the shot with the back LCD screen like on a DSLR. You can miss shots while you chimp.

Mirrorless can shoot in true silent shooting, with your eye to the viewfinder, not having to use the back LCD screen like in a DSLR in live view, which is a poor substitute for framing, tracking and focusing, especially in bright sunlight.

And for nighttime astro photography, the gain features of mirrorless EVF make it much easier to see and focus on dim stars in the night sky.

EVF are now so good that they rival and even surpass the best OVF's. Example: both my Sony A1 and Sony A7SIII EVFs delivers 9.44 dots of resolution, with the A1 EVF even having up to 240fps refresh rate with no viewfinder blackouts. NO DSLR OVF can match that.

There is no need for lens focus calibration adjustments in mirrorless, unlike there is the need with DSLR as their mirrors can get out of alignment over time with wear from all the pounding up and down for each shot.

With less weight and no mirrors to flop or mirror box, mirrorless cameras can be made lighter and more compact as well as the lenses which can now have a shorter flange distance.

As a pro there are these and other mirrorless exclusive features and abilities that no DSLR will ever be able to physically have. In the competitive pro world , I want and use all those mirrorless advantages every time I shoot.

As much as i loved my DSLRs when they were the best available tools, I am happy to leave my DSLRs behind and use even better mirrorless tools.

Of course you can still make great shots with your DSLRs, but I get even better hit rates and more creative options with my mirrorless gear .

With all due respect, I will never personally go back to any DSLR ever, again. But use what you have and like and be happy.

Listen to top Wildlife Pro Mark Smith tell why he went from his beloved DSLR to a mirrorless camera.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ruQVtSqnYo&t=19s

Cheers and best to you all.
https://www.facebook.com/GSWilliamsPhotography

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Jul 15, 2022 02:39:30   #
catchlight.. Loc: Wisconsin USA- Halden Norway
 
Mirrors have little to do with the end image. Removal of the mirror is more about convenience and the evolution of technology. I have yet to see the difference in an edited photo between the two.

My 1DX MK3 will perform faster than I can react or even think. It will be Canons flagship for at least another year and still amazes me with its performance.

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Jul 15, 2022 04:01:58   #
Delderby Loc: Derby UK
 
So what's new? Thank you Panasonic for launching mirrorless fourteen years ago when I was a convert to Lumix cameras.

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Jul 15, 2022 06:32:25   #
Tracy B. Loc: Indiana
 
I never thought I'd like a camera more than I liked my Canon 5D Mark IV, but than I got the Canon R5. OMG!

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Jul 15, 2022 07:24:59   #
tdozier3 Loc: Northern Illinois
 
brentrh wrote:
Just as digital image replaced film mirrorless cameras will be all camera makers produce. That old SLR with a prism and mechanical mirror that must move out of the shutters way. For years SLRs were one of best. But now dethroned by technology mirrorless rules


Not my world

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Jul 15, 2022 07:28:58   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
"f/8 and be there" assumes you couldn't afford a mirrorless camera.

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Jul 15, 2022 07:36:49   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
Tracy B. wrote:
I never thought I'd like a camera more than I liked my Canon 5D Mark IV, but than I got the Canon R5. OMG!

Different (better) sensor? Different (better) image processing?
I seriously doubt it's simply because the mirror is missing.....

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Jul 15, 2022 07:43:47   #
Jeffcs Loc: Myrtle Beach South Carolina
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
If you can't see the difference, you've never owned a mirrorless camera.


I was a mirrorless popo person before I tried one
Than I was hooked worlds apart in using a mirrorless
I shoot high school sports and various activities
I had my Nikon D5 in a concert and the “clunk-clunk” of the mirror was defining I was glared at by the parents
I got a Sony A9 silence on the next event
I no longer own dlsrsore

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Jul 15, 2022 07:46:01   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
Dwiggy wrote:
I appreciate your perspective, and agree with what you are saying about mirrorless. I own one mirrorless camera not full frame, because it was a good price, used and within my means. It seems that the full-frame, mirrorless camera, lens and accessories are all directed toward and priced toward the professional photographer, which I am not. I enjoy taking pictures and being creative within the hobby. I am not looking to make money on my photos either online or otherwise. Too bad the industry is outpricing just the plain enjoyment of the photography.
I appreciate your perspective, and agree with what... (show quote)


I agree with you that full frame is generally a substantial step up in price. In addition to the larger (more expensive sensor), FF cameras usually have additional features and better construction.

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Jul 15, 2022 07:46:11   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
Jeffcs wrote:
I was a mirrorless popo person before I tried one
Than I was hooked worlds apart in using a mirrorless
I shoot high school sports and various activities
I had my Nikon D5 in a concert and the “clunk-clunk” of the mirror was defining I was glared at by the parents
I got a Sony A9 silence on the next event
I no longer own dlsrsore


Hooray!

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Jul 15, 2022 07:57:18   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
Longshadow wrote:
Different (better) sensor? Different (better) image processing?
I seriously doubt it's simply because the mirror is missing.....


And IBIS
And better RF lenses
And EVF for focusing
And EVF for image review
And 45MP on a full frame sensor
And 8-way thumb-nibble
And eye-tracking AF
And 20 fps silent shooting
And 8K uncropped video
And better than DSLR battery life
And no view finder blackout
And built-in mic for voice notes, with dedicated button

The EOS R5 changed how we think about mirrorless, how we think about photography, how we think about life.

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