JeffDavidson Loc: Originally Detroit Now Los Angeles

CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City

If we gave two people a digital camera and lens, and after a week we learned one camera was mirrorless, who do you think would be the better photographer?

Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States

The one who produced the better photographs.....
With whatever he used.

mr spock Loc: Fairfield CT

Unless I'm missing something it's really quite simple. Over the past few years, I've seen countless articles that contained two photographs of the same image. One taken by a DSLR and the other by an I phone. Readers were asked to identify which was which and pick the image they liked better.
The gentleman touting the mirrorless camera could have easily done the same thing. Perhaps he didn't because the difference between the two isn't nearly as dramatic as he claims it is.
Again, I could care less. My Nikon DSLR is all I'll ever need for my photographic hobby. However, when someone unequivocally states one thing is better than another without any evidence and then implies there's something wrong with my eyesight when I dare to disagree, then I need to add my two cents to the argument
If anyone actually cares this is my last statement on the subject

SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA

Well most of us don’t really know a lot about a surgeon’s tools and while we might know the basic mechanics tools a professional shop will have tools we don’t know much about. The thing here is you’re the one spinning this as us crowing about our “overpriced equipment”. We’re just stating facts. I don’t care what you use and if you’re happy with it great, but this sounds like sour grapes to me. Yes the masters talent set them apart, but those masters were also very selective when it came picking brushes and pigments to work with.

PhotoSteve Loc: South Carolina

Canon chg or Paul or whatever

You are like a damn Amway or Amsoil salesman! You just keep talking crap until you wear people down.
Ask your self one question. If you place your mirrorless on a table and I place my dslr on a table and we leave them alone. Which will take the better picture. Neither. It is the skill of the photographer. If it was just the camera, everyone would be producing professional results. Ansel Adams took better pictures than you could ever shoot in 100 years. He did it with equipment that is considered outdated today.

I typically don't read or respond to your posts because they are usually 2 things:

1. Nikon cameras are shit and Canon beats everything
2. Mirrorless is the best and everything else is crap.

Both are just your opinion as this one is mine. The old saying is it's my money and my choice to shoot with what I want to shoot with. If you don't like my choices....Tough shit

CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City

The grass is always greener when captured with a mirrorless camera.

gwilliams6

As a longtime pro that used the best pro SLRs and DSLRs from Nikon and Canon for over 40 years (both brands) , with some Leica thrown into the mix, and then moved over to mirrorless in January 2017, the differences and countless performance and image quality advantages of mirrorless over DSLRs are real. Advantages and innovations that no DSLR can ever physically have, no matter the price.

It isn't even a contest or debate anymore for top pros around the world like myself.

Just in the past 20 months, most of the world's top new services have dumped their DSLRs for better performing mirrorless gear to stay ahead in a very competitive field.

Read what they all said about why they switched to mirrorless: FYI, none did it for any financial reasons, they did it for innovation and the cutting edge performance under the most demanding shooting situations around the world.

AP Associated Press, UK media, Canada Press, all Gannett media outlets dropped their DSLRs and moved to Sony mirrorless for ALL their staff still photographers and staff videographers around the world

AFP (Agence France Press) helped in the development of the mirrorless Nikon Z9 and moved to that camera for their staffers.

https://alphauniverse.com/stories/why-the-associated-press-just-switched-to-sony/

https://petapixel.com/2021/11/17/sony-is-now-the-exclusive-camera-provider-for-gannett-and-usa-today/

https://www.dpreview.com/news/4545693607/the-uk-largest-news-agency-partners-with-sony

https://petapixel.com/2022/01/31/canadas-largest-news-organization-moves-exclusively-to-sony-cameras/#:~:text=Canada's%20Largest%20News%20Agency%20Moves%20Exclusively%20to%20Sony%20Cameras,-Jan%2031%2C%202022&text=The%20Canadian%20Press%2C%20the%20largest,provider%20for%20the%20media%20company

https://petapixel.com/2022/06/09/how-pro-photographers-helped-make-the-z9-from-prototype-to-flagship/

Use your DSLRs if you love them until they fall apart and/or there are no longer any parts to repair them, and be happy.

But DSLR domination is over, forever, never to return. Just the new reality folks.

Cheers

bikinkawboy Loc: north central Missouri

Here’s a couple of points that I picked up from all this.

30 FPS is astounding. So is a Maserati Diablo that will run 200+ mph. How often does one need that 30 FPS? Probably about as often as one needs to drive 200 mph. Yes there are a few people that do need that many FPS, probably to photograph that Diablo running 200 mph.

With such superb image quality, mirrorless is going to make photoshop and other similar programs unnecessary. I can see the computer program companies with undercover agents sabotaging mirrorless factories. No doubt one day soon we will see Tom Cruise on the big screen breaking into the Canon or Nikon factory to steal the latest high tech sensor or neck strap.

Mirrorless do everything so much better than DSLRs for the same reason today’s Dodge, Ford and Chevy pickups are so much better than the REO Speedwagon is/was with its chain wheel drive and solid rubber tires on artillery style wheels: progressive advancements in technology. Mirrorless weren’t suddenly invented so great, they are yet another chapter in camera technology. Without DSLRs, mirrorless cameras would likely not exist, or if so, would be totally unlike what they are now.

Dissing DSLRs is akin to dissing your mom and dad. Had they not existed, neither would you. Had DSLRs not existed, neither would your mirrorless.

Horseart Loc: Alabama

I have had no internet service for a few days and when I come back....WHOA.... I see this! I have read a lot of it and I have to say that NO ONE is wrong if they have what works for them and they love it! Some of the world's greatest photographers made some of the world's greatest photos with just about every kind of camera ever made. (Please forgive me if I exclude the Polaroids) Don't be so quick to knock anyone's camera. Just be thankful that whatever pleases us works for us...all of us.

gwilliams6

Sports , News, and Wildlife shooters like myself use 30 fps all the time or even the 120fps of the Z9, to give them an advantage into capturing that decisive moment.

No one is dissing DSLRs or their mom's or dad's, not an appropriate analogy at all. LOL

Yes the digital sensor had to come first, but mirrorless owes nothing to that flopping, clunky mirror mechanism, nothing. Mirrorless exists in its own right, in its own space and place in technological achievement.

I thank all my DSLRs for helping me make great shots around the world for 40 + years as a Worldwide Award winning Photojournalist before moving over to mirrorless in 2017 and using my mirrorless gear to make more great shots. .

But I dont worship my DSLRs at some shrine, LOL. They were just a tool to get the job done, like SLRs and rangefinder cameras before them. My mirrorless gear is just another tool to get the job done.

Mirrorless rules now and there is no reason to diss it either, it has earned its place at the top of the heap.

Just a couple of shots made at 30fps with my mirrorless Sony A1, and Sony 200-600mm lens.

First, a Snowy Egret takes off from its watery perch on the Caribbean Island of Sint Maarten/St. Martin. 1/4000 sec shutter speed

Second, kids ride rafts pulled by a speedboat on Brooking lake, Manistee National Forest, Michigan USA . (here consecutive frames from a 30fps burst) 1/2000 sec shutter speed.

Cheers

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Horseart Loc: Alabama

Spirit Vision Photography Loc: Behind a Camera.

I concur.

gwilliams6

As a longtime pro that shot with top DSLRs for decades, I can tell you my top pro mirrorless handily outperforms the best DSLRs on the market.

If you dont need all that top performance and are used to and comfortable with your DSLRs that are probably all long ago paid off, then by all means keep shooting with them until they fall apart or you cant find parts to fix them. (the later is happening already, sadly)

But make no mistake there is a real innovation and performance advantage with the latest mirrorless gear over DSLRs. Just a fact, not a judgement.

Cheers and best to you all. Just keep shooting and keep having fun with whatever gear you have and love.

nealbralley Loc: Kansas

As has long been said and attributed to the photo journalist, Arthur Fellig, "f/8 and be there!" What camera, or type of camera you use, is mostly immaterial. Being ready, prepared, and knowing how to use what you have once you arrive on the scene is key. A good modern DSLR with decent glass can absolutely deliver for you. Can a mirrorless deliver for you? Sure, it can deliver for you if you are good. Shoot with what you have, and buy what you need!