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Dec 2, 2020 05:18:14   #
BebuLamar
 
frankraney wrote:
Are you sure? By that definition a demo can be sold as new with lots of shutter counts and scratches.

Or am I missing something.


I don't know but I bought a demo lens at great discount. The lens was a demo for a few years before they sold it to me. So it was tried out by many customers but although they sold it to me at great discount, Nikon considered it as new so they did honor the 5 year warranty that came with it.

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Dec 2, 2020 08:12:20   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
Longshadow wrote:
"NIB" to me is New In Box,
Off the shelf, never used.


Sure, but people use a lot of leeway describing what they're selling. What does "like new" mean? Almost nothing. If an item isn't brand new from a reputable dealer, you have to be careful and ask lots and lots of questions.

If the person posting received a working camera at a good price, I would consider that a fair transaction.

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Dec 2, 2020 08:55:02   #
JackB
 
rcarol wrote:
I would like the collective opinion of this community for an interpretation of NIB before I take the seller to task. I purchased a camera from a seller on eBay and it was advertised as NIB. I expected to get a brand new unused camera with all cables and documentation in the manufacturer's original packaging. What I received is a camera with a filter on the lens that was overly tightened, a charger, and a battery. Admittedly, the camera was in pristine condition. However, the charger clearly was previously used since it had many scuff marks on it. There was no documentation and no cables. Furthermore, none of the Nikon original packaging was included. I intend to notify the seller that he misrepresented the offering but before I do so, I want to know how the community interprets NIB. Thanks for your input.
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Welcome to Ebay - where scammers and cheaters go to roost!

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Dec 2, 2020 10:16:06   #
Valsmere Loc: New Jersey
 
I know its been said check the feedback and I certainly agree, I also look at how many transactions the seller has had. For example the listing in your case the seller had 9 transactions. I dive a little deeper into there history and feedback. Of course depending on the price of the item and what it is. If its under say $25 i am a little more liberal with the standards I have set. Just food for thought

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Dec 2, 2020 10:20:01   #
billnikon Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
 
JackB wrote:
Welcome to Ebay - where scammers and cheaters go to roost!


Yes, unfortunately there are a few scammers and cheaters on Ebay. But, like with most everything else, most sellers are good and honest, there will always be a few bad apples in every bucket.
I have sold and bought on ebay since it's beginning. Yes, I has been scammed, but Ebay stepped in and I got my money back.
You must be careful and look at the sellers ratings and feedback, but Ebay stands behind every purchase and you will get your money back if the product is not as described or if you never get the product.

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Dec 2, 2020 13:32:37   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
billnikon wrote:
Yes, unfortunately there are a few scammers and cheaters on Ebay. But, like with most everything else, most sellers are good and honest, there will always be a few bad apples in every bucket.
I have sold and bought on ebay since it's beginning. Yes, I has been scammed, but Ebay stepped in and I got my money back.
You must be careful and look at the sellers ratings and feedback, but Ebay stands behind every purchase and you will get your money back if the product is not as described or if you never get the product.
Yes, unfortunately there are a few scammers and c... (show quote)


I think I have about 500 transactions on eBay - no problems so far.

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Dec 2, 2020 15:23:59   #
SouthShooter Loc: Southern USA
 
You should contact the seller who might’ve meant open box rather than NIB.
If seller won’t cooperate then you should ask eBay to step in to help you resolve the issue.
Good luck.
And NIB means NIB.

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Dec 2, 2020 16:43:02   #
Scruples Loc: Brooklyn, New York
 
jerryc41 wrote:
I think I have about 500 transactions on eBay - no problems so far.


But Jerry you are an honest and reputable man. We really don’t know if the seller on EBay had ulterior mindset.
I hope that the original poster is able to resolve this dispute to their mutual satisfaction.

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Dec 3, 2020 07:43:56   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
Scruples wrote:
But Jerry you are an honest and reputable man. We really don’t know if the seller on EBay had ulterior mindset.
I hope that the original poster is able to resolve this dispute to their mutual satisfaction.


Thanks for the compliment!

A lot of my eBay activity has been buying. I want to see lots of detailed pictures, and a good description. I don't hesitate to ask questions. eBay keeps track of all correspondence, so the buyer has evidence of lying or misrepresentation.

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Dec 3, 2020 12:37:47   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
rcarol wrote:
I would like the collective opinion of this community for an interpretation of NIB before I take the seller to task. I purchased a camera from a seller on eBay and it was advertised as NIB. I expected to get a brand new unused camera with all cables and documentation in the manufacturer's original packaging. What I received is a camera with a filter on the lens that was overly tightened, a charger, and a battery. Admittedly, the camera was in pristine condition. However, the charger clearly was previously used since it had many scuff marks on it. There was no documentation and no cables. Furthermore, none of the Nikon original packaging was included. I intend to notify the seller that he misrepresented the offering but before I do so, I want to know how the community interprets NIB. Thanks for your input.
I would like the collective opinion of this commun... (show quote)


NIB can stand for ‘NOT in box,” or whatever the seller means. Look for “New, in factory-sealed box, including all accessories.” Don’t assume an acronym means anything in particular.

The problem with a marketplace like EBay is that we cannot always see the exact item, or be entirely sure of its condition. That’s why eBay has seller ratings and Terms of Service.

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Dec 3, 2020 13:23:06   #
no12mo
 
rcarol wrote:
I would like the collective opinion of this community for an interpretation of NIB before I take the seller to task. I purchased a camera from a seller on eBay and it was advertised as NIB. I expected to get a brand new unused camera with all cables and documentation in the manufacturer's original packaging. What I received is a camera with a filter on the lens that was overly tightened, a charger, and a battery. Admittedly, the camera was in pristine condition. However, the charger clearly was previously used since it had many scuff marks on it. There was no documentation and no cables. Furthermore, none of the Nikon original packaging was included. I intend to notify the seller that he misrepresented the offering but before I do so, I want to know how the community interprets NIB. Thanks for your input.
I would like the collective opinion of this commun... (show quote)


Did you get the filter loosened? Do you really like the camera? Perhaps renegotiating with the seller for a satisfactory price that befits a "mint" condition camera. Otherwise, return the camera for a refund - I'm not going to make any suggestions about feedback but I would put this seller on my blacklist and not ever buy anything from that seller EVER.

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Dec 3, 2020 14:18:50   #
BebuLamar
 
It's may be OK to call something NIB if you open it, use a little bit and then put everything back in the box the way they were. In the OP case it's definitely not NIB as accessories are missing. In the OP case I would say comes with the box but not everything.

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Dec 3, 2020 14:29:02   #
nervous2 Loc: Provo, Utah
 
rcarol wrote:
I would like the collective opinion of this community for an interpretation of NIB before I take the seller to task. I purchased a camera from a seller on eBay and it was advertised as NIB. I expected to get a brand new unused camera with all cables and documentation in the manufacturer's original packaging. What I received is a camera with a filter on the lens that was overly tightened, a charger, and a battery. Admittedly, the camera was in pristine condition. However, the charger clearly was previously used since it had many scuff marks on it. There was no documentation and no cables. Furthermore, none of the Nikon original packaging was included. I intend to notify the seller that he misrepresented the offering but before I do so, I want to know how the community interprets NIB. Thanks for your input.
I would like the collective opinion of this commun... (show quote)


If it is a camera for which you can check shutter count, I would do so. If the camera is in pristine condition and shutter count is very close to zero, I would not worry--assuming you can remove filter without damage. If the camera does not measure up to the NIB (new in box) designation, I would ask for a price reduction or possibly return the camera, making sure that all charges including shipping and return shipping are refunded. Good luck.

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Dec 4, 2020 09:32:00   #
kscanman Loc: Wisconsin
 
If you got a really good price on it, what does it matter? Go to the Goodwill, get another cord and get the pdf manual on the internet for free.

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Dec 4, 2020 19:55:17   #
pego101
 
I can't believe all this talk over such a simple matter new means unused should have contected eBay immediately. Really bizarre post.

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