A Ventilator May Not be What You Think
Jun 27, 2020 08:50:45 #
digit-up wrote:
YUP!!! I would bet that he IS ONE that is that SMART. You go right ahead and live your WAY, even though you would put others at risk. It’s frequently fools like you that will contaminate others...............................RJM 
Jun 27, 2020 08:51:25 #
rmorrison1116 wrote:
Ah yes, just what we all need, more covid19 doom and gloom. I'm guessing you're one of those folks who puts on the face mask before leaving the house, wears it in the car, and doesn't take it off until safely back in your bleach sented home.
Jun 27, 2020 08:51:40 #
David Martin
Loc: Cary, NC
sb wrote:
People who do not pay attention to what is happening (and who watch Fox-TV or listen to our president) frequently do not take this virus seriously.
It has been my observation that most of the noncompliant people are young, and likely do not listen to Trump or anyone else, do not watch Fox News or any other news, but rely on social media for their "facts." Their primary motivation in life is their pursuit of fun, and to hell with anything else.
sb wrote:
Not to mention - what is often NOT mentioned when we hear that "we are OK with available ICU beds and prepared for another surge" is that if you do end up needing ventilatory support, you are most likely going to die. Only about 1 in 8 will survive.
Actually a recent study out of Atlanta put the death rate for Covid-19 ventilator patients at 35.7%, which is comparable to their death rate of other ICU patients on ventilators for non-Covid illnesses. Compared to the experience in NYC, Italy, etc. it helps to avoid running out of ICU beds and ventilators, and to be further along on the learning curve of how best to treat severe Covid-19.
https://medicalxpress.com/news/2020-06-mortality-mechanically-ventilated-covid-patients.html
sb wrote:
A health official in Houston this week, when asked... (show quote)
Unfortunately many areas have reported ICUs are now at near-capacity. And - no surprise - an increasing percentage of patients requiring hospitalization for Covid-19 are young.
Jun 27, 2020 08:52:23 #
Kmgw9v wrote:
You need to be informed, and you need to learn some empathy for the 125,000 that have died, and the unknown future innocents that will suffer, and die.
Good Lord, be kinder.
Good Lord, be kinder.
Jun 27, 2020 08:54:10 #
Jun 27, 2020 09:15:50 #
rmorrison1116 wrote:
Ah yes, just what we all need, more covid19 doom and gloom. I'm guessing you're one of those folks who puts on the face mask before leaving the house, wears it in the car, and doesn't take it off until safely back in your bleach sented home.
They do increase their chances for survival. Hope you have your death insurance paid up.
Ventilators are not just for Covid-19 situations. Check out Myasthenia Gravis. And more people should educate themselves. Better to be prepared for the worst than being a candidate for the next Darwin award.
Jun 27, 2020 09:17:10 #
wds0410
Loc: Nunya
Kmgw9v wrote:
I did not say you were lying,
I inferred that Pence was lying,
I inferred that Pence was lying,
Not to be pedantic but readers infer, writers imply.
Jun 27, 2020 09:25:52 #
BurghByrd
Loc: Pittsburgh
It isn't a question of policy or party. It's a question of science and medicine. Ignore at your peril. Unfortunatly we are all impacted by those who chose poorly.
Jun 27, 2020 09:27:04 #
dennis2146 wrote:
Actually you are 100% wrong in your assessment of ... (show quote)
FWIW, Covid-19 attacks without concern to one's self declared or non declared "position", i.e. 'Liberal', etc. Looking at the proponents for no masks seen in the news, they strike me as highly 'Constipated'.
Jun 27, 2020 09:27:21 #
wds0410 wrote:
Not to be pedantic but readers infer, writers imply.
You are right. I knew that was wrong when I wrote it, but didn’t take the time to fix it.
Good call. 😀😀😀
Jun 27, 2020 09:47:24 #
Architect1776 wrote:
Actually it does kill people.
I have a technician who works at Walmart part time.
He had a stock person die and the determining cause of death was the mask because he could not get enough fresh air.
This is not some third party internet rumor but from the person who found the dead body in the back area.
So yes, masks will kill you.
I have a technician who works at Walmart part time.
He had a stock person die and the determining cause of death was the mask because he could not get enough fresh air.
This is not some third party internet rumor but from the person who found the dead body in the back area.
So yes, masks will kill you.
Please, no Myths. The generic masks do not block Oxygen molecules. The mask that individual was wearing needs to be presented for further illumination. For failure of Oxygen, it indicates that the lack of "fresh air" in the ambient environment to be more likely.
Jun 27, 2020 09:53:54 #
Collhar wrote:
At times it is best to remain silent and be thought of as ignorant rather than open your mouth to confirm that fact.
Jun 27, 2020 09:56:11 #
Kmgw9v wrote:
I understand your point. The need for ventilators is overblown, meaning the number of infections is exaggerated as well; and, as Pence said yesterday, Trump did a wonderful job in controlling this national health crisis.
Jun 27, 2020 09:59:38 #
Architect1776 wrote:
So you say that I am lying about ventilators laying around?
There is an excess of them and NO ONE was ever denied one in the USA ever from the beginning.
Death rate now is at 1/2 that of the annual flu.
There is an excess of them and NO ONE was ever denied one in the USA ever from the beginning.
Death rate now is at 1/2 that of the annual flu.
More Myths.
One cannot lie when commenting about something they know so little about. I give you that point.
Jun 27, 2020 10:04:22 #
I've had to be on a ventilator a few times in my life and while everyone is still trying to explain it in the way it once was and still occasionally is used it's not the end of the world situation nor is it a last ditch effort to try to save the life.
The use of a ventilator now days for the most part is therapeutic and is used to allow the patient time for their own lungs to recover.
Yes removal of the tubes are a little uncomfortable however it's a lot less uncomfortable than not being able to breathe.
The use of a ventilator now days for the most part is therapeutic and is used to allow the patient time for their own lungs to recover.
Yes removal of the tubes are a little uncomfortable however it's a lot less uncomfortable than not being able to breathe.
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