dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho

Sent to me by a friend:

Dennis


Yikes! My friend sent this from a co-worker. I don’t know how true it is but his wife is a nurse at Cedars. And my sister, who is a retired nurse practitioner, agrees with this.

From a source . . .

Not to scare you/ but allows u to see the other side of going out unmasked/without a shield:

Here you go folks... for those people who don't understand what it means to be on a ventilator but want to take the chance of going out without a mask...

For starters, it's NOT an oxygen mask put over the mouth while the patient is comfortably lying down and reading magazines. Ventilation for Covid-19 is a painful intubation that goes down your throat and stays there until you live or you die.

It is done under anesthesia for 2 to 3 weeks without moving, often upside down, with a tube inserted from the mouth up to the trachea and allows you to breathe to the rhythm of the lung machine. The patient can't talk or eat, or do anything naturally - the machine keeps you alive.

The discomfort and pain they feel from this means medical experts have to administer sedatives and painkillers to ensure tube tolerance for as long as the machine is needed. It's like being in an artificial coma.

After 20 days from this treatment, a young patient loses 40% muscle mass, and gets mouth or vocal cords trauma, as well as possible pulmonary or heart complications.

It is for this reason that old or already weak people can't withstand the treatment and die. Many of us are in this boat ... so stay safe unless you want to take the chance of ending up here. This is NOT the flu.

Add a tube into your stomach, either through your nose or skin for liquid food, a sticky bag around your butt to collect the diarrhea, a foley catheter to collect urine, an IV for fluids and meds, an A-line f to monitor your BP that is completely dependent upon finely calculated med doses, teams of nurses, CRNA’s and MA’s to reposition your limbs every two hours and lying on a mat that circulates ice cold fluid to help bring down your 104 degree temp.

-Anyone want to try all that out? Stay home and wear a mask when you go out! Stay safe and well!-

What this article doesn't say, is that the patient can hear everything that is said so if the staff carelessly talks about death, the patient panics. If the sedatives are lessened, the patient panics because he can't breath or talk or, in his case, move. When they begin to lower the pain medications, the patient screams in his head but can't make a sound. When they take out the tubes it's extremely uncomfortable. A trachea may replace the respirator, the patient still can't talk or eat without a tube.

Your child, your spouse, your parent, suffers from covid 19 alone in the hospital. The victims are not limited to strangers. When you choose to crowd, unmasked, into newly opened stores for some irrelevant purchase, ask yourself if it's worth a lifetime of knowing your child suffered, maybe died, alone.

rmorrison1116 Loc: Near Valley Forge, Pennsylvania

Ah yes, just what we all need, more covid19 doom and gloom. I'm guessing you're one of those folks who puts on the face mask before leaving the house, wears it in the car, and doesn't take it off until safely back in your bleach sented home.

digit-up Loc: Flushing, Michigan

YUP!!! I would bet that he IS ONE that is that SMART. You go right ahead and live your WAY, even though you would put others at risk. It’s frequently fools like you that will contaminate others...............................RJM

lamiaceae Loc: San Luis Obispo County, CA

lamiaceae Loc: San Luis Obispo County, CA

Bill_de Loc: US

My sister, now a retired nurse, always told her friends (mostly doctors and nurses) to never use a ventilator on her. She never put it writing. When the day came that she needed it "now" the doctor who new her wishes told my brother-in-law that he had about a minute to decide. He said do it, then called my other sister and me to ask if he did the right thing. We both said yes. Now, 15 years later she is still doing fine.

Some time later I met the doctor while visiting my sister. The topic of the ventilator came up and the doctor started laughing. He said he was thinking about the day they were ready to take her off it and most of the nurses walked off the floor. They were all afraid of how mad my sister was going to be when she found out what they did.

When the dust settled she threw a party to thank them all.

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Kmgw9v Loc: Miami, Florida

You need to be informed, and you need to learn some empathy for the 125,000 that have died, and the unknown future innocents that will suffer, and die.
Good Lord, be kinder.

tazman77 Loc: Wisconsin

So rmorrison1116 take it you might just be a person that does not care, or are someone who likes to get reaction from others, and that is your choice in this country. But to be so insensitive to anyone young or old that has gone thru this unfortunate virus we have, and has not made a recovery. It is as dennis2146 stated, and as a human being and a Respitory Therapist, as much as your comment is your opinion,and seems so insensitive to the people who do suffer and die alone from this Virus, If you came into my hospital I would help you to try to survive this virus. But do you need to be so harsh and insensitive to those who do suffer and die from this virus spreading through the world right now. Good luck to all and my suggestion is ignore one man's ignorance and stay safe. So we can just stop sending anymore people to the morgue without them hearing the voice of their loved ones just one more time. I am being nice in my response to rmorrison1116's comment because as a healthcare worker we are trained to show compassion even to those who may not seem like they deserve it. So do as you please I just hope we never meet during this ongoing pandemic taking so many lives. Now as a healthcare worker I will get back to helping those people that need it, so hopefully they can see and hear the voices of their loved ones again. And yes someday when I get more free time again I will get back to enjoying doing some photography things again. BE SAFE EVERYONE!!

lamiaceae Loc: San Luis Obispo County, CA

dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho

Actually you are 100% wrong in your assessment of what I do. There was no doom and gloom in the message. It was for information. Until this morning I had no idea what a ventilator actually did or how it was used. It opened my eyes and my purpose for posting was to simply open the eyes of others who did not know either.

Again, I don't do many things I should be doing to stop the spread of the virus. Yet as a Liberal you take the Liberal way of putting me down for simply offering information. Aren't you special little sweetheart...

I see you live just up the road from me. Maybe you are unaware that San Luis Obispo, your county, Santa Barbara and Ventura counties just had a spike in virus cases. I can't help but wonder if it is you who has spread some of the virus germs around due to your nonchalance regarding the virus.

Dennis

rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA

In our case, we follow store request to send only as many people as needed, so I stay in the car while my wife shops. She takes off hers as soon as she leaves the store. Our house is not ‘bleach scented’. I was in an ICU unit once for 22 hours once; even without a ventilator, I had way too many tubes in me. I cannot imagine being ‘vented’, which is said to be like being dead without having died.

Harry0 Loc: Gardena, Cal

You guys still always amaze me. Where did you put Hillary in all this.
Your article was very good, and accurate. When we hear "on a ventilator" we should already know this.
In the meantime, you're responding to yet another "metoo" right winger.
Him? Social distance? Mask? Stay home? He thinks YOU are the dumb liberal.
And I've been on a ventilator. You forgot about the thrush infections.

dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho

My friend I forgot nothing. I had no idea what a ventilator really did so had no idea of anything that might go along with it, good or bad. I suspect mostly bad. I posted something I thought would be informative to other members. That was it.

As for someone thinking I am a Liberal that does not even sound possible to me. I seldom use foul names here to point out anyone. for me just the term Liberal is about the worst name I could call someone/anyone. No other name could possibly be worse.

Dennis

cameranut Loc: North Carolina

By the way, you misspelled scented, smarty.

cameranut Loc: North Carolina

A great wake up call, if people would only take the time and small efforts to heed it. Too many are so hung up on their "constitutional rights" that they have lost sight of moral and ethical rights. One has the right endanger his life by climbing a rotten wood ladder, while carrying an electric weed whacker, to destroy a live hornets nest. One has the right to act carelessly and do stupid things, however, no one has the right to endanger others by spreading what could potentially be a deadly virus. It's not that difficult to put on a mask.