D850..."to crop or not to crop"
Sep 29, 2019 14:35:43 #
Reconvic
Loc: clermont Fl
WETREED: 1. My topic was just about the crop capability of the D850. 2. I lauded the capability of the D500. 3. YOU came on the topic and stated that you had 4 friends that traded their D 850s in for the D500. 4.I "showed the money" when I posted the original then crop of the kingfisher. 5. I then asked you to post examples pertinent to my "crop" topic 6. Other Hogs have asked you to back up what you are claiming that the D500 is a better crop camera. ???????????
Sep 29, 2019 15:04:18 #
wetreed wrote:
I must respectfully disagree. I have four friends who have traded in their 850s for the 500. They have stated that the 500 is far superior in every way. Based on their experience I have bought a 500 and I am thrilled it. I have also done extensive research that indicate the 500 is the better camera.
While the D500 may be the best camera that accomodates your idiosyncrasies it is hardley the better camera. A good camera, yes.
Sep 29, 2019 17:10:53 #
Tried any landscapes with that 49 mp beast? That's where you will see the detail it captures.
Sep 29, 2019 17:20:15 #
James Van Ells wrote:
Tried any landscapes with that 49 mp beast? That's where you will see the detail it captures.
YES! Especially with NO! cropping.
Sep 29, 2019 17:58:43 #
I have done small and very large crops with the D850 with excellent results. I have always found the FX to yield better images than the DX.
If you crop an FX like the DX does, then you will have a similar apparent focal length.
If you crop an FX like the DX does, then you will have a similar apparent focal length.
Sep 29, 2019 19:23:35 #
Reconvic wrote:
It's well established here that the Nikon D850 is ... (show quote)
Huh? The D850 is a 45.7MP FX / Full Frame camera, and the D500 is a 20.9MP DX / APS-C Camera. No real comparison. The only really valid reason I could see for using a FX camera in Crop or DX mode would be if I didn't have an appropriate FX lens. You are probably better off taking a few steps closer or "zoom-in / crop" by using PP software after shooting. I'd never use a FF in "DX" mode with FX lenses. Seems like a waste.
Bird photography seems like a different world with the things people do for it and their approaches. If I could afford a Nikon D850 or Sony A7Riv I would not be limiting myself to one type of photography. I might not use either for human female portraiture as the high resolution would show too much defect in the subject's skin. But I would certainly slap a FX Macro lens on it and go nuts! I have 14, 16, 24 MP APS-C cameras but nothing can beat a FF.
Sep 29, 2019 19:33:11 #
lamiaceae wrote:
Huh? The D850 is a 45.7MP FX / Full Frame camera,... (show quote)
If I already had an appropriate 'DX' telephoto lens, I would certainly use it; I can't image purchasing a corresponding 'FX' lens. {I thought through a similar issue back when I was thinking of going from a 16mp 'APS-C' K-30 to a 36mp 'FF' K-1}
Sep 29, 2019 21:17:37 #
Normally I'd say crop, but not here. There are plenty of closeups of this bird that were taken closer to it or with a longer lens and show better detail. I think you are running out of resolution and we'd see it if you had attached them for download. However, what you have accomplished is such a perfect spot focus on the bird amongst the blurred and neutral background, that the bird really pops out and catches the eye immediately. It's unusual to see a photo that does that. The original is such a unique composition that I'd go with it.
Sep 29, 2019 21:36:58 #
Reconvic
Loc: clermont Fl
This topic was only for the D850's ability to crop not for an image that I would normally post. I posted another image that you can download. I used the longest lens other than an F4. All of this pertinent info was posted in the topic.
Sep 29, 2019 21:43:37 #
I have both. Comparing them is more than simple pixel size. The D850 has a back side illuminated sensor. It definitely has much more manageable noise at higher ISOs. That's a big deal for wildlife photography.
Plus, often I can fill the FX frame so it can take advantage of that.
The D500 has fast focussing advantage. Its usually not a big deal, but last winter in Belize I was shooting hummingbirds and the keeper rate was much higher with the D500.
I like both cameras but the D850 can do it all.
Plus, often I can fill the FX frame so it can take advantage of that.
The D500 has fast focussing advantage. Its usually not a big deal, but last winter in Belize I was shooting hummingbirds and the keeper rate was much higher with the D500.
I like both cameras but the D850 can do it all.
Sep 29, 2019 21:48:36 #
billnikon wrote:
OH, how I wish everyone owned a Nikon 200-500 on a D500.
Count me out. No useless claptrap for me. I did
NOT invite you to make any wishes for me, and
I'd thank you to never ever do that again.
Sep 29, 2019 21:56:04 #
Reconvic
Loc: clermont Fl
User ID wrote:
Count me out. No useless claptrap for me. I did
NOT invite you to make any wishes for me, and
I'd thank you to never ever do that again.
NOT invite you to make any wishes for me, and
I'd thank you to never ever do that again.
hahahaha....that's funny userid!
Sep 30, 2019 05:33:15 #
There’s a huge debate about that but rule of thumb is only crop if you have to. So, get a lens at least 600 mm and use a teleconverter 2x or 1.4x if you have to, that way you maximize D850 resolution and you are free to compose your shot.
Sep 30, 2019 10:16:00 #
Reconvic wrote:
This topic was only for the D850's ability to crop not for an image that I would normally post. I posted another image that you can download. I used the longest lens other than an F4. All of this pertinent info was posted in the topic.
I have found this conversation interesting. Your point is well taken about the amazing ability of the 850 and that extreme crop in your original post. If I were to buy another Nikon camera, it would definitely be the D850.
This post was NOT about comparing the D500 to the D850, but somehow it went there anyway. I guess it’s another common debate like raw vs jpg or Nikon vs Canon.
I am a Sony shooter now, so it would be interesting to see how the Sony a7RIV & same lens would fair under the same circumstances.
Sep 30, 2019 10:26:35 #
GrandmaG wrote:
I have found this conversation interesting. Your p... (show quote)
So try something similar.
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