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May 14, 2019 19:02:44   #
Harry0 Loc: Gardena, Cal
 
McKinneyMike wrote:
China's strong armed ownership of the leaders of Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia, etc makes this a pipedream. The people of these Asian countries are thrown in jail regularly if they make any disparaging public remarks about or against China. China rules the eastern world with an iron grip. You just think that these are countries free to do business as they chose. They all answer to their handler, Xi and China.


and the things they do to people like Noriega, Assange, and El Chapo. Iraq, Afghanistan and now Venezuela and Iraq. Just can't trust them left winger liberal bat rasterds!

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May 14, 2019 19:15:36   #
LWW Loc: Banana Republic of America
 
mjmoore17 wrote:
I do not respond to proven liars who will not admit when they are lying. Have the FBI investigate it, you know, like sexual assault. You have no honor and no honesty.
Start your “I know you are and so am I” childish retort to hide your dishonesty.


How pathetic of a looooooozer can you be?

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May 14, 2019 19:20:45   #
mjmoore17 Loc: Philadelphia, PA area
 
LWW wrote:
How pathetic of a looooooozer can you be?


I could be the type of lying loser that you are but I do not grovel at trumps feet as well as you. Have you decided to give honesty a try or going to continue to be a liar. Admit you lied.

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May 14, 2019 21:36:59   #
wooden_ships
 
Architect1776 wrote:
Hard to say.
The farmers have been government subsidized for decades now so it is not some new Trump phenomenon.
Also as I predicted but was laughed at here the Asian market is up and corporations are actively looking at friendly non tariff countries in Asia for manufacturing.
This will hurt China as they will not regain those markets.
PS, as far as tariffs are concerned you will see a 10 cent increase in a $20 purchase as a whole at most according to analysts. Unless your retail vendor decides to screw you with that as an excuse.
Hard to say. br The farmers have been government ... (show quote)


Now what do you think will happen? Look at BestBuy stock price... dropping like a stone. Retailers will add a higher percentage to overall price until they find resistance and will attribute the increases to tariffs. Does anyone here not believe tariffs are being paid for by the American consumer? Trump saying the US has collected millions from China is just a lie- his own economic advisor had to disagree. This is nuts.

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May 14, 2019 21:39:40   #
wooden_ships
 
Elaine2025 wrote:
I no longer respond to MJ Moore AKA traitor boy. He is an ignorant, lying, bullying, word twisting fool. He is a complete waste of time. He is troll, nothing more. His game is to get SOMEONE, ANYONE to post to him so he can spew his hatred. Leave the idiot alone and he will go away.


Consider your own response before you criticize others. “Traitor boy”? Are you still in grammar school?

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May 14, 2019 21:48:30   #
DaveO Loc: Northeast CT
 
Elaine2025 wrote:
I might feel differently if the dems didn't display such rabid stupidity and constant lies - not that the other side is perfect. How many times over the last two years did Adan Schiff say he has seen PROOF that Trump colluded with Russia to win the election...... and it was all a big lie.

My opinion.....congress could use a dose of truth serum:)


I don't know why some persist with name calling and face it, we really don't know what was in the report. Defining collusion is one issue that's been loosey goosey. If everyone is so sure, then what could it hurt to let Congress see the whole thing. You sure as hell would have wanted a complete look if it had been interpreted in favor of the opposition. That would at least legitimately allow for some to say "I told you so!"

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May 14, 2019 21:51:40   #
DaveO Loc: Northeast CT
 
Blurryeyed wrote:
I just see it as the dems asking for tons of free campaign research, Trump has been cleared by Mueller, do you really believe that Pencil Neck and Saggy Nads could find things that Mueller couldn't?

It is all political at this point and it is about the 2020 campaign, maybe you should ask yourself if this is not why you support the current efforts in the house.


Perhaps you should ask yourself as well. Why would anyone not want total disclosure on such an important issue? I say to you also that had the report gone against trump, you surely would want Congress or verification by someone.

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May 14, 2019 22:03:30   #
Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.
 
DaveO wrote:
Perhaps you should ask yourself as well. Why would anyone not want total disclosure on such an important issue? I say to you also that had the report gone against trump, you surely would want Congress or verification by someone.


The thing is that what the dems are asking for is the continued humiliation and destruction of persons other than Trump, I don't know if you have fully considered that.

They hired Mueller, everyone said that he was the best man for the job, Mueller in turn went out and hired DC's best prosecutors to help him in his efforts... They did their work over a 2 year period, they had full access to FBI agents to help them in their quest, they came up empty, it is over, time to move on. There is nothing that Nads or Neck will turn up, as far as I am concerned the American people have seen a lot more in the Mueller Report than we ever saw in the IRS investigation or the Clinton investigation, seems to me that I remember fully blacked out page after fully blacked out page when documents were released from those two investigations. Fast and Furious, the documents were never turned over... This is just Trump hate and there are those in this country that don't give a shit about who gets hurt or how badly they get hurt in their quest to further damage Trump...

It is over, time to move on.

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May 14, 2019 22:10:37   #
mjmoore17 Loc: Philadelphia, PA area
 
Blurryeyed wrote:
The thing is that what the dems are asking for is the continued humiliation and destruction of persons other than Trump, I don't know if you have fully considered that.

They hired Mueller, everyone said that he was the best man for the job, Mueller in turn went out and hired DC's best prosecutors to help him in his efforts... They did their work over a 2 year period, they had full access to FBI agents to help them in their quest, they came up empty, it is over, time to move on. There is nothing that Nads or Neck will turn up, as far as I am concerned the American people have seen a lot more in the Mueller Report than we ever saw in the IRS investigation or the Clinton investigation, seems to me that I remember fully blacked out page after fully blacked out page when documents were released from those two investigations. Fast and Furious, the documents were never turned over... This is just Trump hate and there are those in this country that don't give a shit about who gets hurt or how badly they get hurt in their quest to further damage Trump...

It is over, time to move on.
The thing is that what the dems are asking for is ... (show quote)


Again, lies come so naturally to you. According to Mueller they did not come up empty. He listed at least ten things that he felt should be investigated. You already know this and persist in lying. Just to save time, what are you going to lie about tomorrow so we do not have to wait.

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May 14, 2019 22:32:05   #
EyeSawYou
 
mjmoore17 wrote:
Again, lies come so naturally to you. According to Mueller they did not come up empty. He listed at least ten things that he felt should be investigated. You already know this and persist in lying. Just to save time, what are you going to lie about tomorrow so we do not have to wait.


Get over it...



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May 14, 2019 22:40:46   #
mjmoore17 Loc: Philadelphia, PA area
 
EyeSawYou wrote:
Get over it...


So typical right-wing trumpette. Cannot support your lies so name calling or deflection instead. Now you are deflecting another liars post. Worried that someone other than Dictator Don will tell more lies than you.

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May 15, 2019 00:32:08   #
KenW Loc: Portland OR
 
trainspotter wrote:
I am so sick of everything I buy.....made in china. I like Japanese and Korean products. I worked in a hardwood plywood mill for 20 years...The U.S would send raw logs to China...."they" would send back blanks (plywwood with no hardwood face) cheaper then we could make them....?????? HOW? To load the logs on a ship, transport, unload, peel the logs, make the blank, reload the ship, send back, unload at the dock, take to the mill....STILL CHEAPER then us doing it??? TO HELL with China! BUY AMERICAN...I"M WILLING TO PAY MORE!
I am so sick of everything I buy.....made in china... (show quote)


The decline of American made goods began in this country when Nixon opened up diplomatic relations with China and the manufacturing Industry saw a cheap source of labor with a substantial increase in profits to their companies. They could build a new state of the art facility somewhere in China and write the whole thing off. This gave them an excuse not to modernize and upgrade their stateside facilities and plants.They no longer had to pay pensions, health insurance and of course higher wages to their stateside employees. It gained additional momentum under Reagan and American Industry has never looked back.

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May 15, 2019 06:06:12   #
DaveO Loc: Northeast CT
 
Blurryeyed wrote:
The thing is that what the dems are asking for is the continued humiliation and destruction of persons other than Trump, I don't know if you have fully considered that.

They hired Mueller, everyone said that he was the best man for the job, Mueller in turn went out and hired DC's best prosecutors to help him in his efforts... They did their work over a 2 year period, they had full access to FBI agents to help them in their quest, they came up empty, it is over, time to move on. There is nothing that Nads or Neck will turn up, as far as I am concerned the American people have seen a lot more in the Mueller Report than we ever saw in the IRS investigation or the Clinton investigation, seems to me that I remember fully blacked out page after fully blacked out page when documents were released from those two investigations. Fast and Furious, the documents were never turned over... This is just Trump hate and there are those in this country that don't give a shit about who gets hurt or how badly they get hurt in their quest to further damage Trump...

It is over, time to move on.
The thing is that what the dems are asking for is ... (show quote)


Your premise is that the report contained nothing. Mine is that Americans deserve to know the truth without claims of political interpretation.

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May 15, 2019 06:34:23   #
WNYShooter Loc: WNY
 
KenW wrote:
The decline of American made goods began in this country when Nixon opened up diplomatic relations with China and the manufacturing Industry saw a cheap source of labor with a substantial increase in profits to their companies. They could build a new state of the art facility somewhere in China and write the whole thing off. This gave them an excuse not to modernize and upgrade their stateside facilities and plants.They no longer had to pay pensions, health insurance and of course higher wages to their stateside employees. It gained additional momentum under Reagan and American Industry has never looked back.
The decline of American made goods began in this c... (show quote)


LOL, Quite the revisionist history there, through very biased googles as well.

There are many factors which took a bite out of the US on-shore industrial output and if you actually took the time to study the data, you would know that that decline started in the 50's, with Japan, China was actually late to the game. There are also a number of other factors which play into it as well, not just politics, but then the facts would kinda spoil your political BS rant, so I'm sure you'll just ignore those facts.

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May 15, 2019 06:40:43   #
WNYShooter Loc: WNY
 
DaveO wrote:
Your premise is that the report contained nothing. Mine is that Americans deserve to know the truth without claims of political interpretation.


And where do you think you'll get that truth, from the politicians? From the News? Me personally, I have a hard time believing either, so then I have to look at how the matter affects my life, and the lives of my family. That report affects us SQUAT no matter it's interpretation.

We let the professional investigators investigate, and they rendered their decisions. We should accept them and move on. If other evidence arises, we can always revisit with a new group of investigators.

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