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Jun 2, 2023 08:55:35   #
davidrb Loc: Half way there on the 45th Parallel
 
Canisdirus wrote:
It's all speculation...the future usually is.

One thing is already clear...

Sony is a very innovative company willing to think and move outside of the box with relative ease.

Canon is the exact opposite of that.

Your personality will guide you in the end.


In case this poster has forgotten Sony makes televisions and movies while Canon is an imaging empire. It is very easy to "think out of the box" that you have never been in.

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Jun 2, 2023 09:15:27   #
Bridges Loc: Memphis, Charleston SC, now Nazareth PA
 
gwilliams6 wrote:
Only you blind Canon fanboys can not accept ANY criticism of your fav brand, LOL.

No camera brand is perfect, and no camera brand has ever ALWAYS been infallible, including Canon which I used for over four decades.

If Canon had been better I might have stayed with them , instead of moving over to Sony. I have long ago heard all the early criticism of Sony's first products, along with all their worldwide praise as they innovated in image sensors and cameras bodies, and created a totally new market, the fullframe mirrorless camera. The stunning success of the Sony A7III changed the fullframe photo world forever, as T&C mention here.

Canon, Nikon, Panasonic have been playing catchup in fullframe mirrorless ever since. LOL

Sony isn't perfect, Canon isn't perfect, Nikon isn't perfect, Fuji isn't perfect, Panasonic isn't perfect, Olympus isn't perfect, Pentax isn't perfect, neither are Leica and Hasselblad perfect.

I personally dont care what brand you prefer. Use whatever you like and be happy.

I joined all the World's Top News Services who have moved to Sony and Nikon fullframe mirrorless for all their staff still photographers and staff videographers, Worldwide, NOT Canon mirrorless. Just the new reality, Paul.

Associated Press, UK Press, Canadian Press, all Gannett media including USA Today, have ALL move exclusively to Sony mirrorless for all their staffers worldwide. AFP (Agence France Presse) helped develop and test the mirrorless Nikon Z9, and uses the Z9 for their staffers worldwide.

Amd Paul dont give the standard Canon fanboy response that Sony and Nikon made some underhanded bid to get these clients. They didn't. I have shot for AP in the past and know its Photo Director and he told me that all major makers submitted similar financial bids . Check what they said in their own words why they choose Sony and Nikon fullframe mirrorless . None chose Canon mirrorless. Just the facts.

https://alphauniverse.com/stories/why-the-associated-press-just-switched-to-sony/

https://petapixel.com/2021/11/17/sony-is-now-the-exclusive-camera-provider-for-gannett-and-usa-today/

https://www.dpreview.com/news/4545693607/the-uk-largest-news-agency-partners-with-sony

https://petapixel.com/2022/01/31/canadas-largest-news-organization-moves-exclusively-to-sony-cameras/#:~:text=Canada's%20Largest%20News%20Agency%20Moves%20Exclusively%20to%20Sony%20Cameras,-Jan%2031%2C%202022&text=The%20Canadian%20Press%2C%20the%20largest,provider%20for%20the%20media%20company.

https://petapixel.com/2022/06/09/how-pro-photographers-helped-make-the-z9-from-prototype-to-flagship/

Cheers and best to you all, whatever your fav brand is. Having used ALL the major brands in my 50 years as a pro, my only brand allegiance is to whatever is the best gear for my professional and personal use.
Only you blind Canon fanboys can not accept ANY cr... (show quote)


The best camera system for any individual depends on several criteria. How does the camera feel in your hand, how many bells and whistles are desired vs. how many are actually needed/used, what is your confidence in the equipment, what is your experience with earlier versions of the same manufacturer, how invested are you in the system you are presently using, what is your budget, and how are you going to use the camera all play a factor. As an example, I picked up a Sony a7ii a couple of years ago along with an a6000 and three or four lenses. I loved the camera paired with the 24-240 lens and enjoyed shooting with that combination so much that if I were starting from scratch, I would have continued to build a Sony system. When Nikon introduced the z system I felt they were on the right track but still held onto the Sony. Then when they released the ii series I felt Nikon had essentially caught up with Sony and not wanting to build a second system, and being heavily invested in the Nikon system, I sold off the Sony equipment. Yes, the Sony does track better but since I do not shoot enough sports or wildlife the Sony advantage was not really a factor. Also, the Nikons have a better menu and are easier to modify to the user's preferences than the Sony cameras. The dynamic range of the Nikon was better although the newest Sonys have closed that gap. You can look at all the top systems and find that each has one or two things that they do better than anyone else. How important to your style of photography are those things? The best way to choose a system is not to ask others and rely solely on the input of other people since they likely will be biased toward the system they use. Get to a camera store and handle the equipment. Ask to put a couple of lenses on a body and see how it balances in your hand. Feel the grip -- does that fit your hand. If necessary, rent each of the cameras you have boiled your choices down to. Between two bodies and three or four lenses, you could be investing 10,000 dollars. Why would you risk that much money and be unhappy with your decision? In light of how much you may be spending on a system, a couple of hundred dollars to rent cameras is well worth the investment.

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Jun 2, 2023 09:23:46   #
Canisdirus
 
davidrb wrote:
In case this poster has forgotten Sony makes televisions and movies while Canon is an imaging empire. It is very easy to "think out of the box" that you have never been in.


Where have you been...
Sony pretty much owns the imaging world right now.
Exactly because they are very capable of thinking outside of the box.

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Jun 2, 2023 09:30:15   #
Real Nikon Lover Loc: Simi Valley, CA
 
Bridges wrote:
The best camera system for any individual depends on several criteria. How does the camera feel in your hand, how many bells and whistles are desired vs. how many are actually needed/used, what is your confidence in the equipment, what is your experience with earlier versions of the same manufacturer, how invested are you in the system you are presently using, what is your budget, and how are you going to use the camera all play a factor. As an example, I picked up a Sony a7ii a couple of years ago along with an a6000 and three or four lenses. I loved the camera paired with the 24-240 lens and enjoyed shooting with that combination so much that if I were starting from scratch, I would have continued to build a Sony system. When Nikon introduced the z system I felt they were on the right track but still held onto the Sony. Then when they released the ii series I felt Nikon had essentially caught up with Sony and not wanting to build a second system, and being heavily invested in the Nikon system, I sold off the Sony equipment. Yes, the Sony does track better but since I do not shoot enough sports or wildlife the Sony advantage was not really a factor. Also, the Nikons have a better menu and are easier to modify to the user's preferences than the Sony cameras. The dynamic range of the Nikon was better although the newest Sonys have closed that gap. You can look at all the top systems and find that each has one or two things that they do better than anyone else. How important to your style of photography are those things? The best way to choose a system is not to ask others and rely solely on the input of other people since they likely will be biased toward the system they use. Get to a camera store and handle the equipment. Ask to put a couple of lenses on a body and see how it balances in your hand. Feel the grip -- does that fit your hand. If necessary, rent each of the cameras you have boiled your choices down to. Between two bodies and three or four lenses, you could be investing 10,000 dollars. Why would you risk that much money and be unhappy with your decision? In light of how much you may be spending on a system, a couple of hundred dollars to rent cameras is well worth the investment.
The best camera system for any individual depends ... (show quote)


Lets face it, Nikon is just better all around, and has a greater long term track record to its younger cousin Canon.

Nikon is the Cadillac whereas Canon is the Chevrolet. Quite simple. 🤣🤣🤣

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Jun 2, 2023 09:53:13   #
therwol Loc: USA
 
Real Nikon Lover wrote:
Lets face it, Nikon is just better all around, and has a greater long term track record to its younger cousin Canon.

Nikon is the Cadillac whereas Canon is the Chevrolet. Quite simple. 🤣🤣🤣


Let the fun begin. Wait. It already has.

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Jun 2, 2023 11:01:47   #
neillaubenthal
 
gwilliams6 wrote:
You are the only one who gets his pants on fire, we all know that here in UHH. I dont live and breathe any single camera brand like you do, LOL, LOL

And FYI, Associated Press, the Top Worldwide New Service, tested Sony cameras in the field for two years around the world, before deciding to make Sony their exclusive equipment provider for all their staff photographers and staff videographers worldwide. AP, like me, never got their pants on fire about any early Sony models. And BTW, AP ditched its long-standing Canon DSLRs to go exclusively to Sony mirrorless, and AP did not choose to move with Canon mirrorless.

Cheers and best to you Paul.
You are the only one who gets his pants on fire, w... (show quote)


You know he's just a troll…and trolls gonna troll so best to just ignore those posts of his.

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Jun 2, 2023 12:39:27   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
Are there Tony and Chelsea haters?

I watch and read lots of reviews by various people, but I don't hate any of them. I tend to prefer some more than others because of the way they present the information, but I usually find something to appreciate in all reviews. A good deal of a review is opinion, but it has to be based in fact. A reviewer might make an error presenting what he thinks is a fact, but he'll usually follow-up with a correction.

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Jun 2, 2023 13:30:29   #
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Real Nikon Lover wrote:
Lets face it, Nikon is just better all around, and has a greater long term track record to its younger cousin Canon.

Nikon is the Cadillac whereas Canon is the Chevrolet. Quite simple. 🤣🤣🤣

Extra buttery, garlic powder, grated parmesan, ready for The Troll Show
Extra buttery, garlic powder, grated parmesan, rea...

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Jun 2, 2023 13:37:26   #
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Real Nikon Lover wrote:
Lets face it, Nikon is just better all around, and has a greater long term track record to its younger cousin Canon.

If you really think Canon is Nikons younger cousin then you just dont *understand* the history of it. You probably can parrot a few dates all collected from what you had read somewhere from some "historian".
Chronology isnt the whole history.

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Jun 2, 2023 14:18:59   #
BebuLamar
 
Real Nikon Lover wrote:
Lets face it, Nikon is just better all around, and has a greater long term track record to its younger cousin Canon.

Nikon is the Cadillac whereas Canon is the Chevrolet. Quite simple. 🤣🤣🤣


They are not related like Cadillac and Chevy. Also Canon made cameras way before Nikon made their first camera. Early Canon cameras used lenses made by Nikon.

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Jun 2, 2023 15:25:20   #
Dbl00buk Loc: Orlando
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
Sony's 'secret' strategy has been well-documented on the internet for years.


Really??????

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Jun 2, 2023 16:13:16   #
Desert Gecko Loc: desert southwest, USA
 
Real Nikon Lover wrote:
Lets face it, Nikon is just better all around, and has a greater long term track record to its younger cousin Canon.

Nikon is the Cadillac whereas Canon is the Chevrolet. Quite simple. 🤣🤣🤣


^^^ Troll. No sane human could really believe this.

(Buick, maybe, and possibly even Oldsmobile. But Cadillac? Pffft.)

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Jun 2, 2023 16:18:21   #
Desert Gecko Loc: desert southwest, USA
 
Gotta admit, Tony made a persuasive argument. But he also once argued that we don't need circular polarizers, and that wasn't his only misguided idea that went to video -- which is why I unsubscribed a few years ago (guess I'm a Tony-hater, Jerry).

Tony failed to mention that around 8-10 years ago, Samsung released three Android cameras: two point & shoot and an APS-C mirrorless ILC. They were the Galaxy, Galaxy 2, and Galaxy NX.

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Jun 2, 2023 17:06:16   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
niteman3d wrote:
Check out their latest Youtube video. Granted, it is clickbait and whether it may affect Canon is pure speculation.

I follow Tony and Chelsea only when their words are repeated here.

In this case, whether they affect Nikon is pure speculation.

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Jun 2, 2023 18:12:30   #
Indiana Loc: Huntington, Indiana
 
So, I viewed the video and I am just not buying the premise. I think the issue of product liability, misrepresentation, and deceptive practice, becomes an overriding issue with the idea that Sony is involved in a nefarious activity. Just my opinion

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