Why the color difference? (Page 3): Thanks for all the responses. I was able to “fix” the color in LR since I shoot RAW. I am also learning on my R5 even if I’m not getting blinkies or...

Photolady2014 Loc: Southwest Colorado

Thanks for all the responses. I was able to “fix” the color in LR since I shoot RAW. I am also learning on my R5 even if I’m not getting blinkies or the histogram is not pegged off the right, the whites can be blown. At a photo workshop I was taught to expose to the right, now I think I need to go back a little to the left!

burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC

Photolady2014 wrote:

What is causing such a color difference between th... (show quote)

AWB and AE…

Auto White Balance continuously tries to render a scene gray. So does auto exposure. If you want identical results from frame to frame, set both manually, in reference to a target made for that purpose.

BushDog Loc: San Antonio, TX

I believe the previous comments are accurate. I’ll use my wording to give my two cents.

When you are not using full manual settings, meaning shutter, aperture and ISO, your camera will make adjustments in the automatic (non-manual) options to achieve a mid-tone (18%) gray exposure to the metered area (in this case, the metered area being the total image).

One of the images has more snow in it (hence, the “framing” already mentioned). The snow is VERY bright. So the camera is decreasing exposure more in that image to get to that mid tone gray. (SS 1/500 vs 1/320.)

Further confirmation or critique of my interpretation is welcomed.

CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City

Photolady2014 wrote:

Thanks for all the responses. I was able to “fix” the color in LR since I shoot RAW. I am also learning on my R5 even if I’m not getting blinkies or the histogram is not pegged off the right, the whites can be blown. At a photo workshop I was taught to expose to the right, now I think I need to go back a little to the left!

At +0.7 EC in Evaluative Metering and Aperture Priority in RAW, your highlights should be easily recoverable from an EOS camera. Are you saying in LR you can't move the highlight slide to the left and recover details from this snow?

Experimenting with both your camera and your edit tools is a fundamental requirement of the ETTR approach. It is explicitly stated in all my ETTR posts.

ETTR in Practice

ETTR in Practice II

If you find LR will not recover those highlights, look at the same images in DPPv4 and set the highlight warnings indicator active. Burn a mental image of how / where those highlight warnings display. Use that mental memory going forward to recognize the same situation in the future aka experience so you're aware of when to drop the EC by minus 0.3 or more.

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Photolady2014 wrote:

Thanks for all the responses. I was able to “fix” the color in LR since I shoot RAW. I am also learning on my R5 even if I’m not getting blinkies or the histogram is not pegged off the right, the whites can be blown. At a photo workshop I was taught to expose to the right, now I think I need to go back a little to the left!

Yes the pendulum of the ETTR movement swung too far to the right.

photoman43

These two pictures show why I do not use Auto WB. I set the WB needed for the scenes being taken to make sure my WB is uniform across a series of images. . If it needs to be changed I do it in post processing as I shoot in RAW.

I set color space to Adobe RGB to capture full range of colors. If I need an sRGB image I "make it" from the processed Adobe RGB at the time of Export.

CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City

photoman43 wrote:

These two pictures show why I do not use Auto WB. I set the WB needed for the scenes being taken to make sure my WB is uniform across a series of images. . If it needs to be changed I do it in post processing as I shoot in RAW.

I set color space to Adobe RGB to capture full range of colors. If I need an sRGB image I "make it" from the processed Adobe RGB at the time of Export.

RAW files don't have a colorspace. Digital editors do, where ideally the ProPhotoRGB should be used, an option that doesn't even exist in the camera, because: RAW files don't have a colorspace.

Abo

CHG_CANON wrote:

Note camera setting: WB mode - Auto Ambience. (ak... (show quote)

I agree... you got this one right. And has a lot more credibility than a lot of your
inane metaphors

Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States

Abo wrote:

I agree... you got this one right. And has a lot more credibility than a lot of your
inane metaphors

What's a metaphor?
... laughing.

I like most metas.

frankraney Loc: Clovis, Ca.

Photolady2014 wrote:

What is causing such a color difference between th... (show quote)

Two things that I noticed very quickly without downloading is the shutter speed is different with less exposure less color probably, and composition is a little bit different very slightly which means the camera moved slightly which could have affected the metering, I wouldn't think so with that slight change but it could be possible.

lamiaceae Loc: San Luis Obispo County, CA

Photolady2014 wrote:

What is causing such a color difference between th... (show quote)

What CHG_CANON wrote, but additionally note the AV & TV values for both are not the same f/11 & 1/500 vs f/11 & 1/320; the exposures were not the same. The center of each frame is different, the relative positions of the various elements in the two shots has changed slightly. Admittedly there is more difference than one might expect. But I have seen worse (more). Yup your metering system is fussy. As pointed out, shoot RAW. Unless you have a monitor and printer capable of AdobeRGB stay with sRGB, it is more universal.

Abo

Longshadow wrote:

What's a metaphor?
... laughing.

I like most metas.

A metaphor is a figure of speech that is used to make a comparison between two things that aren't alike but do have something in common.

CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City

Abo wrote:

A metaphor is a figure of speech that is used to make a comparison between two things that aren't alike but do have something in common.

And what part of success being defined by the absence of a mirror would be considered a metaphor?

Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States

Abo wrote:

A metaphor is a figure of speech that is used to make a comparison between two things that aren't alike but do have something in common.

..... meta phor
..meta for

What's a meta for?

(An American thing....?

)

rcarol

Photolady2014 wrote:

So do you suggest sRGB?

If you are shooting RAW, color difference is irrelevant.