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Jun 8, 2021 12:34:25   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
rcarol wrote:
If you are shooting RAW, color difference is irrelevant.

Yes.
It simply comes into play for posting on the web and some printing companies.
The "transportable image" created by the camera/editor, ie. JPEG.

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Jun 8, 2021 12:54:23   #
fetzler Loc: North West PA
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
Note camera setting: WB mode - Auto Ambience. (aka Auto WB)

If you pull the RAW into an editor that shows you the 'as shot' K temp and tint, you'll likely see different values. The camera just decided a different value between frames.

BTW: if you shoot in RAW, using Adobe RGB as your color space is not relevant. It only accomplishes a different file name, giving you the leading underscore in the name. Your digital editor controls the colorspace during editing and / or the colorspace of the output file format.
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Paul has pointed you in the right direction. You can correct this difference in your RAW editor by adjusting the color temperature to the same value. An alternative is to set the color temperature to a fixed value when taking photos.
In either case you can adjust in the RAW editor.

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Jun 8, 2021 13:23:36   #
rwm283main Loc: Terryville, CT
 
I agree. High contrast situations similar to this is most likely the problem with even a slight shift in framing. Spot metering on the two bear would have given you the consistency between the two images

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Jun 8, 2021 13:26:02   #
amfoto1 Loc: San Jose, Calif. USA
 
Photolady2014 wrote:
What is causing such a color difference between these 2 photos? They both had the focus box on the 2 bears together, and they were taken literally a second apart. 16:19:15 and 16:19:16 I did not have time to change any settings, but have included the info for each photo. I simply exported the RAW file as a JPEG for UHH, oh and straighten a tiny bit.
I really need to learn what is causing this and how I can keep it from happening in the future!
Canon R5 and RF 100-500 with 1.4 extender.
Thank you! Beth
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Notice the difference in the amount of snow and the amount of bare ground in the images? The Auto WB probably changed the second image due to that. It was just enough different, that the system thought a different WB was needed.

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Jun 8, 2021 18:18:06   #
Photolady2014 Loc: Southwest Colorado
 
Again, thanks everyone for your 2 cents worth! I understand why auto WB is not always the best, but I know I would probably forget to change it! Also, like in this situation, the bears worked their way down the road and it started out sunny, then cloudy, then snow to heavy snow, back to sunny. I would not have thought to change the WB while picking up the tripod and running down the road to stay ahead of them.... I know with more experience etc, I will remember or should...

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Jun 8, 2021 18:59:06   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
Photolady2014 wrote:
Again, thanks everyone for your 2 cents worth! I understand why auto WB is not always the best, but I know I would probably forget to change it! Also, like in this situation, the bears worked their way down the road and it started out sunny, then cloudy, then snow to heavy snow, back to sunny. I would not have thought to change the WB while picking up the tripod and running down the road to stay ahead of them.... I know with more experience etc, I will remember or should...


Is there really a lesson or change to take away from the occurrence of two different temperature images? Anything that involves futzing more with your camera, instead of shooting wildlife, would seem to be the wrong lesson. You're a RAW shooter, not a SOOC JPEGer. Who really cares what the camera thought? Given we're talking about bears, I'd argue both images are 'wrong'. One is clearly too cold, but the other is too warm. Adjust your K temp and tint and make every one of them 'just right' from the comfort of your home.

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Jun 8, 2021 21:21:12   #
PHRubin Loc: Nashville TN USA
 
Longshadow wrote:


"Evaluative metering" evaluated the amount of dark (grass) and light (snow) differently between the two shots because of the amount of snow in each picture.


Slight difference in framing caused difference in exposure, slightly washing out colors.

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Jun 8, 2021 21:49:22   #
Jack 13088 Loc: Central NY
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
Is there really a lesson or change to take away from the occurrence of two different temperature images? Anything that involves futzing more with your camera, instead of shooting wildlife, would seem to be the wrong lesson. You're a RAW shooter, not a SOOC JPEGer. Who really cares what the camera thought? Given we're talking about bears, I'd argue both images are 'wrong'. One is clearly too cold, but the other is too warm. Adjust your K temp and tint and make every one of them 'just right' from the comfort of your home.
Is there really a lesson or change to take away fr... (show quote)


If one is shooting RAW none of the camera settings other then the ISO, Aperture, Shutter Speed and Focus matter. (Some cameras apply low ISO noise reduction before creating thr RAW file.) Many, myself included, set the WB (or whatever) to auto so the camera will write its guess in the EXIF data so the PP software can use it as a starting point.

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Jun 9, 2021 04:12:10   #
lamiaceae Loc: San Luis Obispo County, CA
 
Jack 13088 wrote:
If one is shooting RAW none of the camera settings other then the ISO, Aperture, Shutter Speed and Focus matter. (Some cameras apply low ISO noise reduction before creating thr RAW file.) Many, myself included, set the WB (or whatever) to auto so the camera will write its guess in the EXIF data so the PP software can use it as a starting point.


ditto.

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Jun 9, 2021 10:07:47   #
Abo
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
And what part of success being defined by the absence of a mirror would be considered a metaphor?


You tell me.

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Jun 9, 2021 10:10:58   #
Abo
 
Jack 13088 wrote:
If one is shooting RAW none of the camera settings other then the ISO, Aperture, Shutter Speed and Focus matter. (Some cameras apply low ISO noise reduction before creating thr RAW file.) Many, myself included, set the WB (or whatever) to auto so the camera will write its guess in the EXIF data so the PP software can use it as a starting point.


What does "RAW" stand for?

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Jun 9, 2021 16:53:33   #
DirtFarmer Loc: Escaped from the NYC area, back to MA
 
Abo wrote:
What does "RAW" stand for?


Same as food:

Uncooked.

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Jun 9, 2021 17:28:18   #
Jack 13088 Loc: Central NY
 
DirtFarmer wrote:
Same as food:

Uncooked.


Agreed!

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Jun 9, 2021 22:57:17   #
Abo
 
DirtFarmer wrote:
Same as food:

Uncooked.


If that's true, then it's a word and not an acronym
and is "raw", not RAW.

However everyone writes "RAW" so it must not mean uncooked... unless everyone is wrong.

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Jun 9, 2021 22:59:07   #
Abo
 
See last post on page 4 Jack
Jack 13088 wrote:
Agreed!

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