Photographers of an Arrogant nature (Page 2): Is it a public place ? If its owned by a land owner or anyone except the council then strictly its not a public place...hotel grounds etc...

Pistnbroke Loc: UK

Is it a public place ? If its owned by a land owner or anyone except the council then strictly its not a public place...hotel grounds etc are not a public place ...I had a builder photograph some work he did for me for his website ...he go a mouthful.

rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA

Pistnbroke wrote:

Is it a public place ? If its owned by a land owner or anyone except the council then strictly its not a public place...hotel grounds etc are not a public place ...I had a builder photograph some work he did for me for his website ...he go a mouthful.

In this area, a "local free fair festival" is normally something like a "Renaissance Faire" held in a public park by a private organization. Typically they put no rules on photography because they want to encourage admissions-paying people to enjoy themselves, and nearly everyone has a smart phone these days.

But the OP will have to tell us the conditions that prevailed in this particular case.

MichaelH Loc: NorCal via Lansing, MI

Scruples wrote:

...Even though it is superstitious, it is the belief of another, You MUST respect their beliefs!...

How is calling someone else's belief "superstitious" respecting their belief. May I rephrase your belief: "You should respect their right to have a belief, no matter how superstitious or opposite your beliefs it is."

But you have no requirement to respect their belief itself. A case in point is someone may believe that the Earth is flat. I would not respect that belief! There are many common beliefs that are due no respect at all.

rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA

MichaelH wrote:

How is calling someone else's belief "superstitious" respecting their belief. May I rephrase your belief: "You should respect their right to have a belief, no matter how superstitious or opposite your beliefs it is."

But you have no requirement to respect their belief itself. A case in point is someone may believe that the Earth is flat. I would not respect that belief! There are many common beliefs that are due no respect at all.

We are quickly walking into complicated territory. Amtrak has a rule that anyone can take a photo from anywhere s/he can legally be, but if I were sitting across the aisle from an Amish person, I would not specifically photograph him/her {I might include him/her in a photo of an interior view of the entire car, especially if I did not see him/her}. Last week, the "chef" of a diner at the local Farmer's Market accosted me because he thought I was photographing his establishment; I told him he was being silly - I had my camera out, but I took no photo, and besides on-line photography is the best marketing these days.

MichaelH Loc: NorCal via Lansing, MI

rehess wrote:

We are quickly walking into complicated territory.... (show quote)

I would not photograph anyone who told me that they would prefer not being photographed. That is just "being polite". I try to be polite as part of my belief system. And I imagine that the Amish do not like being photographed because they do not like being thought of as a "curiosity". Not really complicated at all.

rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA

MichaelH wrote:

I would not photograph anyone who told me that they would prefer not being photographed. That is just "being polite". I try to be polite as part of my belief system. And I imagine that the Amish do not like being photographed because they do not like being thought of as a "curiosity". Not really complicated at all.

Most people do not express a preference.
Amish people stand out even less than Waldo does so you won't see them once a few people are gathered together..
That is why I called it "complicated".

ps - my understanding is that Amish consider photography to be a violation of the Commandment against "graven images" - that is why they avoid it.

Lukabulla

Yes I understand re the Amish mention ..
I learned that the hard way , though not from Amish but from
Orthodox Jews .. I was photographing the Annual Jewish Celebrations
in North London of Purim ..
I came across a mother and 3 kids dressed up in costume .
I asked the mom for permission to take the kids photos ..
She asked why I want to take it ... I replied that I'm a street
photographer and like to take photos of ' Interesting people '..

She replied abruptly ' WE ARE NOT INTERESTING PEOPLE '
I was a bit embarrased as I could see what she meant .

Mind you she did give permission for the phots .

rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA

Lukabulla wrote:

Yes I understand re the Amish mention .. br I lear... (show quote)

I would not intentionally photograph an Amish person, period.

Leitz Loc: Solms

Lukabulla wrote:

Hi Everyone, br I'd like to share my very disturbi... (show quote)

Follow your psychiatrist's advice.

Mac Loc: Pittsburgh, Philadelphia now Hernando Co. Fl.

Lukabulla wrote:

Hi Everyone, br I'd like to share my very disturbi... (show quote)

Ever heard of MYOB?

Mac Loc: Pittsburgh, Philadelphia now Hernando Co. Fl.

Actually, the arrogant one was you for thinking you had the right to do what you did.

Richard75 Loc: Aiken SC since 2016 from Washington State

A10 wrote:

Seek solace in you having good manners. Treating people with respect has its own rewards.

billnikon Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont

Lukabulla wrote:

Hi Everyone, br I'd like to share my very disturbi... (show quote)

Those that have that aggressive style exist in every profession. My advice is to ignore her and keep on doing what you are doing. WHO CARES ABOUT HER BEHAVIOR, I SURE DON'T.

rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA

billnikon wrote:

Those that have that aggressive style exist in every profession. My advice is to ignore her and keep on doing what you are doing. WHO CARES ABOUT HER BEHAVIOR, I SURE DON'T.

The "Ignore Her" needed to start at the first moment of contact.
The OP was the aggressive one in this case.

DAN Phillips Loc: Graysville, GA

There are idiots everywhere! They're everywhere! They're everywhere!