dwolfe wrote:
I have used Canon for 40+ years. My current camera is the EOS 1DS Mark III. I bought this new and love the camera. I shoot mostly landscapes. My photography today is changing and I need more dynamic range. The Canons maximum ISO is 3200 and there is a lot of noise to deal with. The Sony I have selected is the new Alpha 7R IV. I purchased two lenses, Both G master lenses. The Sony FE 70-200mm f/2.8 GM OSS and the Sony SEL24-70mm GM. I expect the camera around Oct 15. Can someone tell me; am I going to be happy with the Sony? This has left a big hole in the coffers, so to those that use the earlier models of the Alpha 7R series, is there something you couldn't live without for your Sony camera?
PS... I am also looking at the Sony FE 16-35mm f/2.8 GM Wide-angle Zoom. Is this a good choice or is there something else I overlooked.
I respect everyone's opinion here. Canon users, please don't lambast me and tell me I have made a big mistake. The deed is done, I'm switching to Sony.
D.Wolfe
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I think you'll be happy with the Sony camera... 61MP, after all, is nearly triple the resolution of your antique (in DSLR terms) 1Ds III.
I never really understood what Canon did with that 2007 model. How was it that the 5D Mark II, released less than a year later, had higher selectable and usable ISO while using the same sensor? At the time it was surprising that they even used the same sensor. I suppose the IQ difference is that the 5DII got a Digic 4 processor, while the 1DsIII used dual Digic III. But it always struck me as odd that the "pro" camera's ISO range was 100-1600, expandable to 3200... while the "consumer" camera's was 100-6400, expandable to 12800.
I'm not sure a high ISO range has much to do with dynamic range, though. In fact, dynamic range decreases dramatically with all cameras, as ISO is increased. This website charts the relationship between ISO and DR, for almost every camera model (I've highlighted the Sony and several Canon for comparison... you can change them easily by clicking the model listings on the right). What's important here is how DR is effected as ISO increases. The Alpha 7R IV appears to have less than half the DR at ISO 12800, than it does at ISO 100. Of course, landscape photogs often use tripods that allow them to make longer exposures that keep their ISOs low.
Resolution is what it's all about, with landscape photography like you enjoy doing. And the new Sony currently has the most of any full frame camera (only medium format digital offer more, but the cost, size and weight increase significantly with MF). Rumor has it that Canon will be releasing an EOS-R model with even more megapixels (83MP?) in the not too distant future, but for now the Sony is top dog.
These ultra high resolution cameras are
very "demanding" of lenses. They need "good glass" and are unforgiving of any flaws a lens might have. There are all kinds of reviews online, both formal and informal. I find the feedback from the guys at Lensrentals among some of the most useful, since they handle and regularly test dozens of copies of any particular lens model, in the course of their business. Regarding the 70-200mm, you might want to check out:
https://www.lensrentals.com/blog/2019/07/just-the-mtf-charts-70-200mm-f2-8-zooms/ I don't see any Lensrental discussions of the other lenses you mention (but you might search their blog more than I did).
I also find Bryan Carnathan's The-Digital-Picture website helpful with detailed reviews and lens comparisons. You can use the Image Quality tool there to compare test shots done with almost any two lenses side-by-side, and see for yourself how they might be expected to perform. There you can see how some of the Sony lenses compare against lenses you used with your Canon DSLR. Of course, most likely Bryan only has opportunity to test a single lens, so any copy variation isn't taken into account, the way it is at Lensrentals. But, hey, it's something... Better than buying things "in the dark", more info than many reviewers provide and let's us see for ourselves how things compare...
No review and testing of the new a7R IV yet.
https://www.the-digital-picture.com/Reviews/Sony-a7R-IV.aspxSony 24-70mm f/2.8: [url]
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Sony 16-35mm f/2.8:
https://www.the-digital-picture.com/Reviews/Sony-FE-16-35mm-f-2.8-GM-Lens.aspxPersonally, if I go mirrorless with my next full frame camera, I'll be looking at f/4 lenses. Especially for landscape photography, where I'd nearly always be stopping my lens down to a middle or small aperture anyway. f/4 zooms are smaller and lighter than f/2.8 zooms (which look pretty hefty mounted on mirrorless cameras!) Not to mention, f/4 lenses are less expensive. In most cases they are at least as good and sometimes f/4 lenses are sharper in the corners of images.