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After 40 using Canon DSLR cameras I am switching to Sony Mirror-less
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Sep 20, 2019 06:12:19   #
mas24 Loc: Southern CA
 
You were definitely in need for an upgrade. Indeed, you advanced greatly, from the older Canon DSLR you had. 61 megapixels is a lot. My Nikon DSLR has 24 megapixels, and sufficient for my use. You also have two great lenses too. The G-Master lenses are excellent and expensive FE lenses. If you are going to buy an expensive Sony a7r4, you want to have quality lenses, such as the G-Master and Zeiss lenses. One complaint from someone I met over a year ago, who owned a Sony a7r2,. Told me that Sony battery drain was a problem. He said owners of his camera, would never go out for a day of shooting, with just the battery inside the camera. The newest battery will last longer. It is used in the Sony a9, and the a7r3/a7r4. Regardless, owning an extra battery for a DSLR or mirrorless camera is mandatory to me. 61 megapixels is a lot of resolution compared to your previous Canon DSLR. But, I'm sure you can handle it. Nikon went from 36 megapixels on the D810, to 46 megapixels on the D850. Sony went from 42 megapixels on the a7r3 to 61 megapixels on the a7r4. The megapixels war is in full force now,, among Camera manufactures. Enjoy your new toy. It should give you many years of service.

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Sep 20, 2019 06:44:02   #
Capn_Dave
 
It's the glass. Not only are you switching camera brands you are also going to have to switch glass. The glass is where it is at. As stated before the new Canons will outshine your old camera in ISO performance.
If you have money to burn switch not a problem, but you can save yourself a lot of bucks by just upgrading your camera.

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Sep 20, 2019 07:28:17   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
Yes, you will definitely enjoy the Sony. Don't even consider any other option: no regrets, no second thoughts. As you said, there's that hole in the coffers. Now, you must make the best of it. At first, you will have doubts because of the size and shape and Menu and controls. As you become more comfortable with it, you will grow to love it. Fear not!

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Sep 20, 2019 07:59:30   #
Blair Shaw Jr Loc: Dunnellon,Florida
 
dwolfe wrote:
Yeah, I have a two HDD NAS drive with two separate network drives and two 8TB HDD, one for my catalog and one for backup. I have so many redundancies built into my setup. I probably have 20TB of open HD space. The hardest part is keeping track of everything.


WOW....no wonder you're broke ......

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Sep 20, 2019 08:10:21   #
brian43053 Loc: Buffalo, NY
 
dwolfe wrote:
I have used Canon for 40+ years. My current camera is the EOS 1DS Mark III. I bought this new and love the camera. I shoot mostly landscapes. My photography today is changing and I need more dynamic range. The Canons maximum ISO is 3200 and there is a lot of noise to deal with. The Sony I have selected is the new Alpha 7R IV. I purchased two lenses, Both G master lenses. The Sony FE 70-200mm f/2.8 GM OSS and the Sony SEL24-70mm GM. I expect the camera around Oct 15. Can someone tell me; am I going to be happy with the Sony? This has left a big hole in the coffers, so to those that use the earlier models of the Alpha 7R series, is there something you couldn't live without for your Sony camera?
PS... I am also looking at the Sony FE 16-35mm f/2.8 GM Wide-angle Zoom. Is this a good choice or is there something else I overlooked.
I respect everyone's opinion here. Canon users, please don't lambast me and tell me I have made a big mistake. The deed is done, I'm switching to Sony.
D.Wolfe
I have used Canon for 40+ years. My current camera... (show quote)


I own the A7RII and love it. the only drawback is battery life but you learn to adjust accordingly. The photos are awesome and BTW - you did drop a bunch of change for that set up but I'm confident you'll be very happy with it.

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Sep 20, 2019 08:30:57   #
cwhi1444 Loc: Orland Park, IL
 
After almost the same number of years a Canon shooter, upgrading with regular periods of time, I also turned everything Canon into Sony. Maybe not as deep as you jumped but midlevel. Main reason was at my age the heavy Canon bodies and lenses were too much to really get the shots I wanted. Sony a6300 and the a7 all with a few different lenses has served me just fine for the past few months. I really feel the Sony has better images but they do have a higher learning curve in the menu. Takes a little time to feel comfortable with quicky changing settings. You will not regret going to your high end Sony and accessories.

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Sep 20, 2019 08:49:04   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
dwolfe wrote:
I have used Canon for 40+ years. My current camera is the EOS 1DS Mark III. I bought this new and love the camera. I shoot mostly landscapes. My photography today is changing and I need more dynamic range. The Canons maximum ISO is 3200 and there is a lot of noise to deal with. The Sony I have selected is the new Alpha 7R IV. I purchased two lenses, Both G master lenses. The Sony FE 70-200mm f/2.8 GM OSS and the Sony SEL24-70mm GM. I expect the camera around Oct 15. Can someone tell me; am I going to be happy with the Sony? This has left a big hole in the coffers, so to those that use the earlier models of the Alpha 7R series, is there something you couldn't live without for your Sony camera?
PS... I am also looking at the Sony FE 16-35mm f/2.8 GM Wide-angle Zoom. Is this a good choice or is there something else I overlooked.
I respect everyone's opinion here. Canon users, please don't lambast me and tell me I have made a big mistake. The deed is done, I'm switching to Sony.
D.Wolfe
I have used Canon for 40+ years. My current camera... (show quote)


Once you reach ISO 200 there is no difference between Canon R and Sony DR.

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Sep 20, 2019 09:03:57   #
wireloose
 
The Sigma mc11 will do a good job of adapting your native canon glass. Focusing is a bit slower but for landscapes that doesn’t matter. It’s well worth the money. Don’t lose the cable that comes with it, it’s an odd connector and is needed for any firmware upgrade. I still use my 5d iv for sports and wildlife but the 7r2 is what I use 80% of the time. For lenses look at wide angle primes. You can use anything with an adapter, it’s one of the benefits of Sony, so there are deals to be had. I think you are going to be very happy with your new toy.

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Sep 20, 2019 09:32:26   #
camerapapi Loc: Miami, Fl.
 
I have been using Nikon cameras (still do) and lenses since 1963 when I bought my first Nikon, the Nikon F. At the time I was using it with a Sekonic hand held reflected exposure meter. The camera was fit with the 50mm Nikkor f1.4 single coated and that camera and lens gave me many beautiful images while I was living in Spain. I still have the camera.

Now, after so many years I felt the need for something lighter for traveling. I bought an Olympus EP-L1 about 6 years ago with the kit lens and immediately fell in love with the camera. It was light, small and easy to carry anywhere. At the end of the day, even when hiking I did not feel tired. It became my most used camera. Today I own two Olympus mirrorless bodies, the OM-10 Mk II and the Pen EP-5 with the EVF 4. Even when I pack these bodies with several lenses made by Panasonic and Olympus my travelings are still light and I have small cameras with interchangeable lenses and images with excellent colors and sharpness. Yes, enlargements to 13x19 show all beautiful colors and details. I could go larger but I usually do not have the need.

I am not familiar with the AF of the Sony cameras but AF till now has not been with mirrorless that great for action and wildlife. Sony is presently used by many professional photographers. It is my understanding that the last offering from Olympus are pretty good in that respect but still I would keep a dSLR for those subjects.

I bet you are going to be very happy with your new camera.

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Sep 20, 2019 09:32:49   #
clickety
 
rehess wrote:
When I became a member here, I was in the process of thinking of switching camera brands, and I wanted information / advice before spending money. That may just be me - but I don’t see as much utility in learning about issue afterwards.


It seems that many posts may originate from insecurity and contain questions phrased to-insure everyone is aware of their acquisitions, possessions and what has been spent while “subtlety seeking external validation and envy from other members. Many times I don’t think the answers are important to them as long as everyone knows that the “ brown truck” is coming.

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Sep 20, 2019 09:44:14   #
47greyfox Loc: on the edge of the Colorado front range
 
SuperflyTNT wrote:
Well that was helpful.


🙄😜🥴🤭👍

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Sep 20, 2019 10:02:56   #
CatMarley Loc: North Carolina
 
dwolfe wrote:
I have used Canon for 40+ years. My current camera is the EOS 1DS Mark III. I bought this new and love the camera. I shoot mostly landscapes. My photography today is changing and I need more dynamic range. The Canons maximum ISO is 3200 and there is a lot of noise to deal with. The Sony I have selected is the new Alpha 7R IV. I purchased two lenses, Both G master lenses. The Sony FE 70-200mm f/2.8 GM OSS and the Sony SEL24-70mm GM. I expect the camera around Oct 15. Can someone tell me; am I going to be happy with the Sony? This has left a big hole in the coffers, so to those that use the earlier models of the Alpha 7R series, is there something you couldn't live without for your Sony camera?
PS... I am also looking at the Sony FE 16-35mm f/2.8 GM Wide-angle Zoom. Is this a good choice or is there something else I overlooked.
I respect everyone's opinion here. Canon users, please don't lambast me and tell me I have made a big mistake. The deed is done, I'm switching to Sony.
D.Wolfe
I have used Canon for 40+ years. My current camera... (show quote)


I went from Nikon to Fuji, and found the greatest advantages for me were freedom from menu-diving and the EVF, which allows you to see what the finished product will look like in terms of exposure and white balance before you trip the shutter. The new Sony will be a whole 'nother world from your old Canon!

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Sep 20, 2019 10:14:27   #
Jimmy T Loc: Virginia
 
rmorrison1116 wrote:
It doesn't really matter which brand you switch to. The Canon camera you were using is an antique by today's standards.
Do you feel like you've done the wrong thing!? As far as, the deed is done and being lambasted by Canon users, why do you think like that!? You purchased a good camera and it should serve you well for a long time. My daily shooter is a Canon 5D mk IV and it does a good job for me as I'm sure your A7R IV will do for you. Seriously, they are just cameras, not an extension of yourself.
It doesn't really matter which brand you switch to... (show quote)


I concur with you!!
Of course, we all know that Chevy rules! (Huge grin)
Smile,
Jimmy T Sends

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Sep 20, 2019 10:22:07   #
Canisdirus
 
You would be making a quantum leap forward (tech wise) no matter which brand you bought compared to what you were using.
That being said, you will be thrilled with your choice of that Sony glass and body.
Sony really listens to their customers ... and innovation is now on your side.

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Sep 20, 2019 11:03:02   #
NatureRocks
 
I started in Sony with the NEX-7, which I still have and use. After many years of shooting with the 24mp, I bought the a7rii. It was considerably cheaper than the then a7riii. I truly love the camera! Yes, it has limited battery life and does not have all the fancy new eye focus features, but the images are incredible. I think your lens choices are good, but, of course, it depends on what you want to shoot. If mostly landscapes, you might want to look at the Laowa lenses; there is one, grantedly manual focus, at 10-18mm, which has fairly low distortion. And Laowa also has fixed wide angle lenses that claim "0" distortion. But the 16-35mm is a great lens, as well. I do not have the 70-200; still using a Canon with adapter there. But the only drawback I would see with the a7riv would be the massive file sizes. As long as you have the hard drives and memory cards for it, it should produce amazing images. And reportedly you can shoot at 26mp in a cropped mode, allowing some flexibility. It would be nice if they had various file sizes, especially in raw format, to allow one to choose how many pixels are needed.

You also could purchase the new a6600 to allow you less dense files. But that probably sounds like a stupid idea right now, given that you just ordered the camera. But for outdoors shots in the wilderness (or where I have to lug equipment a long way), I often still take my NEX-7 with the Zeiss 16-70, f4 and the 70-300mm, which allows me incredible flexibility without massive weight.

Anyway, I do think that the Sony 'train' is leading the pack of mirrorless developments presently. That does not mean that they will always, and, surely, given Nikon and Canon long-standing dominance, they will respond with superior cameras and lenses.

The one thing I wish Sony would do is provide viable emulation of Fujifilm's film approximations. Since Fujifilm uses the Sony processors, it should be a relatively easy task.

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