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Apr 10, 2019 10:30:10   #
Elaine2025 Loc: Seattle, Wa
 
Frank T wrote:
Maybe one day it will be your family. Will it be funny then?


Drama Queen little Frankie.......maybe one day it will be your grandchild that has an after birth a******n, will it be funny then?

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Apr 10, 2019 10:46:43   #
Frank T Loc: New York, NY
 
Elaine2025 wrote:
Drama Queen little Frankie.......maybe one day it will be your grandchild that has an after birth a******n, will it be funny then?


Lainey,
There's no such thing as an after birth a******n.
Stop listening to your handlers and try to read a book.
In this particular case, simply looking up a******n in the dictionary would be helpful.

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Apr 10, 2019 10:49:08   #
Elaine2025 Loc: Seattle, Wa
 
Frank T wrote:
Lainey,
There's no such thing as an after birth a******n.
Stop listening to your handlers and try to read a book.
In this particular case, simply looking up a******n in the dictionary would be helpful.


That is what your precious CNN and mad cow are calling them,

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Apr 10, 2019 10:51:12   #
Elaine2025 Loc: Seattle, Wa
 
Frank T wrote:
Lainey,
There's no such thing as an after birth a******n.
Stop listening to your handlers and try to read a book.
In this particular case, simply looking up a******n in the dictionary would be helpful.


Little Frankie, you really are ignorant. Read it and weep. This is what you crazy dems come up with.

https://www.whig.com/20190206/new-york-a******n-law-allows-infanticide#

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Apr 10, 2019 12:42:45   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
Frank T wrote:
So how many times do you think the Tarasoff Rule prevented homicides?
I would speculate that there were numerous times but you can't prove that it did unless you can definitively connect cause and effect.
Same thing with gun laws. We can't prove that someone not being able to buy a gun in New York prevented a homicide. However, we can see that per-capita New York has many fewer homicides than Louisiana where it's relatively easy to buy a gun.
As to your hypothesis that we want to remove guns so we have power over you; that's just paranoia and totally unsuportable by any evidence.
So how many times do you think the Tarasoff Rule p... (show quote)


First of all Frank let's let people know what the Tarasoff Rule is about. You should have done that but you didn't.

The Tarasoff Rule. "When a therapist determines, or pursuant to the standards of his profession, should determine, that his patient presents a serious danger of violence to another, he incurs an obligation to use reasonable care to protect the intended victim against such danger."

Frank as usual when you even present something worthwhile you are talking apples and oranges. In the case of gun control and the HIPAA Regulation we are talking about generalities. Not every person who has a mental health problem is a danger to anyone at all. Most are probably no danger at all. Yet their dlagnosis would still be called a mental health problem such as Obsessive Compulsive Disorder, for example. Just because a person feels he must wash his hands 50 times a day does not make him a danger to society.

The Tarasoff Rule refers to a mental health professional who genuinely feels his patient is about to do serious harm to someone else. It does not cover at all every mental health patient.

I have absolutely no idea how often the Tarasoff rule prevented homocides but my gut feeling is it is pretty rare for it to be used.

Dennis

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Apr 10, 2019 12:45:53   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
BigBear wrote:
None of the libs say outright that they want government control over everyone.
The laws they put out say it all for them.


I agree with you but at least Maxine Waters is on record as saying she does want the government to take control over oil production in America. As the topic of Socialism gets talked about more and more I think we will hear more comments from Socialist Democrats who do want the government to take over some aspects of our lives. There is already talk about, The State, making decisions for children rather than parents having those decision making rights. It has even been discussed recently here in The Attic.

Dennis

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Apr 10, 2019 12:50:26   #
BigBear Loc: Northern CT
 
dennis2146 wrote:
I agree with you but at least Maxine Waters is on record as saying she does want the government to take control over oil production in America. As the topic of Socialism gets talked about more and more I think we will hear more comments from Socialist Democrats who do want the government to take over some aspects of our lives. There is already talk about, The State, making decisions for children rather than parents having those decision making rights. It has even been discussed recently here in The Attic.

Dennis
I agree with you but at least Maxine Waters is on ... (show quote)


Government run healthcare is the biggest control tool there is.

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Apr 10, 2019 12:51:28   #
Angmo
 
dennis2146 wrote:
I agree with you but at least Maxine Waters is on record as saying she does want the government to take control over oil production in America. As the topic of Socialism gets talked about more and more I think we will hear more comments from Socialist Democrats who do want the government to take over some aspects of our lives. There is already talk about, The State, making decisions for children rather than parents having those decision making rights. It has even been discussed recently here in The Attic.

Dennis
I agree with you but at least Maxine Waters is on ... (show quote)


Venezuela has pretty much the largest proven oil reserves in the world. See how socialism stole all the money, made a few leftie millionaires from its theft and left the country in ruins?

People are dying from leftism around the world. Hundreds of millions are dead.

Wake up. America rocks the way it is designed.

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Apr 10, 2019 12:57:33   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
BigBear wrote:
Government run healthcare is the biggest control tool there is.


True. And that is why the Democrats want it. It is usually the start to more Socialism.

Dennis

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Apr 10, 2019 13:03:35   #
BigBear Loc: Northern CT
 
dennis2146 wrote:
True. And that is why the Democrats want it. It is usually the start to more Socialism.

Dennis


They are trying to convince the gullibles that it is a right they are entitled to at all cost to someone else.

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Apr 10, 2019 14:58:28   #
Frank T Loc: New York, NY
 
dennis2146 wrote:
First of all Frank let's let people know what the Tarasoff Rule is about. You should have done that but you didn't.

The Tarasoff Rule. "When a therapist determines, or pursuant to the standards of his profession, should determine, that his patient presents a serious danger of violence to another, he incurs an obligation to use reasonable care to protect the intended victim against such danger."

Frank as usual when you even present something worthwhile you are talking apples and oranges. In the case of gun control and the HIPAA Regulation we are talking about generalities. Not every person who has a mental health problem is a danger to anyone at all. Most are probably no danger at all. Yet their dlagnosis would still be called a mental health problem such as Obsessive Compulsive Disorder, for example. Just because a person feels he must wash his hands 50 times a day does not make him a danger to society.

The Tarasoff Rule refers to a mental health professional who genuinely feels his patient is about to do serious harm to someone else. It does not cover at all every mental health patient.

I have absolutely no idea how often the Tarasoff rule prevented homocides but my gut feeling is it is pretty rare for it to be used.

Dennis
First of all Frank let's let people know what the ... (show quote)

I know what the Tarasoff rule is, but thanks for saying that you have no idea how many times it prevented a homicide.
As to me explaining it? Last time ai checked, I didnt have a duty to educate the uneducated.

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Apr 10, 2019 15:55:55   #
Angmo
 
Frank T wrote:
I know what the Tarasoff rule is, but thanks for saying that you have no idea how many times it prevented a homicide.
As to me explaining it? Last time ai checked, I didnt have a duty to educate the uneducated.


Like an administration saying the ”jobs saved” lie as a reportable employment number.

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Apr 10, 2019 16:02:13   #
Elaine2025 Loc: Seattle, Wa
 
Frank T wrote:
I know what the Tarasoff rule is, but thanks for saying that you have no idea how many times it prevented a homicide.
As to me explaining it? Last time ai checked, I didnt have a duty to educate the uneducated.


Little Frankie, you have posted another ignorant childish post. You don't disappoint!

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Apr 10, 2019 16:05:02   #
Frank T Loc: New York, NY
 
Elaine2025 wrote:
Little Frankie, you have posted another ignorant childish post. You don't disappoint!


It's only an ignorant post if you are ignorant.

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Apr 10, 2019 16:11:27   #
Elaine2025 Loc: Seattle, Wa
 
Frank T wrote:
It's only an ignorant post if you are ignorant.


CORRECTION; It is ignorant if YOU posted it.

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