Frank T Loc: New York, NY

Not quite.
There is no searchable database for mentally ill people.
There are no background checks for family t***sfers, gun shows and private sales in most states.
I'm so tired of hearing that there's nothing we can do. We can do wh**ever we have the gumption and drive to do.
Don't be a coward. Let's take on the gun lobby.
Look what the NRA got the Republicans to do last week in not renewing the Violence Against Women Act. A deplorable display by the NRA owned Republicans.

Angmo

Mentally il are barred from purchasing firearms. felons too.

Did you look into the details of the VAW act and determine why it was not renewed?

Remember now, where do bad guys get most all their firearms? Remember? Black market. Underground purchases. ATF is more focused on bad guys than good guys.

You should be too. Have you asked around about getting into the black market then turn them in the the ATF? Take some action.

Stop whining. You sound like a leftie.

Frank T Loc: New York, NY

OMGYS

Angmo

papakatz45 Loc: South Florida-West Palm Beach

You make some good points. If you could flip a switch, how would you make this happen? Please no rantings about the NRA or Trump. Just your ideas.

Angmo

Well, the discussion needs to be about crime control. Starting with family and upbringing.

pendennis

We don't have searchable databases for folks with mental issues for a very good reason. You've completely forgotten the legally embedded doctor/patient confidential relationship, as well as the HIPAA laws. The privacy and medical conditions of people are protected by local, state, and Federal laws. The chances of amending the HIPAA laws are slim, and none. The first one passed would be in Federal Court less than two minutes after the ink dried on the President's signature.

You will have to amend laws which not only protect people's 2nd Amendment rights; and let's not ignore the 4th, 5th, 6th, 9th, 10th, and 14th Amendments. You are demanding confiscation without compensation, conviction without counsel, and abridging due process.

Don't forget that people have private property rights, whether real or personal. Even the ACLU has recognized that firearms ownership is an individual right. You come under the guise of "something has to be done now", which is nothing but a canard for abridging not only 2nd Amendment but a number of others. Tyrants always come in on the "let's do justice for (wh**ever aggrieved group)", and real intent is to strip everyone of their individuality. The N**i's, the C*******ts, the F*****ts, the Socialists were/are in power because the rights of the individual must be abridged for them to remain in power. You also have no idea just how unworkable your solutions actually are. You're also assuming that folks who now own unregistered weapons will make like the New Zealand "sheeples" and kowtow to non-republican governments. You have no idea just how many folks will never obey such unconstitutional concepts.

You seem to abandon any pretense of due process, and are willing to ignore it based on what can be tantamount to innuendo, and rumor.

Dealers who attend gun shows all have to run background checks. Once you possess an FFL, you can no longer sell guns on the side without a background check. And the ATF is present at any known gun show to insure compliance. They just don't wear ATF windbreakers.

You also use the NRA as your whipping boy. (Wow, what a surprise!) Find someone else to attack. They've stood up for people's rights for nearly 140 years, and they count as members the most upstanding, law-abiding citizens in the U.S. If you want to do something, v**e to fund more courts, jails, and prosecutors. Convict and put in jail those who commit crimes.

Angmo

Perhaps there’s a need to regulate leftie free speech. Just common sense regulation. Perhaps force them into church too.

Hopefully you’ll get the point. Just use common sense laws to stop crime. Not good guys.

BigBear Loc: Northern CT

The is a huge problem with laws against crime.
Criminals don't obey them any more than liberals do.

rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona

It's interesting that the OP has failed to join in a conversation he instigated.
--Bob

ArtzDarkroom Loc: Near Disneyland-Orange County, California

I have been reading all of the comments. I am glad to see some good thought has been put into them. I would prefer good sense to common sense. I am all for due process and the enforcement of current laws if they address the issue at hand. I think it is a mistake for some here to assume that the lefties don't own guns too.

dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho

Your wish is about 2/3 completed.

Felons are already prevented from owning firearms by Federal law.

The mentally ill are prevented from owning firearms and a question regarding mental health history is on the Form 4473, filled out when purchasing a firearm.

The question of Domestic Abuse is also on the Form 4473 as well. To answer in the affirmative for mental health or Domestic Abuse means no firearm.

But remember that mental health history will not be released to protect the mentally ill patient. Even the NRA you Liberals love to h**e is against this but the law says ill people must be protected. Also remember that felons, by definition, do not obey laws. They generally do not buy firearms but steal them. So what law do you propose to stop felons from obtaining firearms?

Great idea but common sense means that it will not work. As the owner of a couple of hundred firearms since I was 10 years old I agree with you. These people should not have firearms. But there are already statutes prohibiting their possession. So what usually happens every time there is gun violence you Liberals want to enact laws that take firearms from honest citizens.

Dennis

dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho

Frank this is exactly like almost (I am trying to be kind saying almost) every post you submit. There is not a thread of t***h in your entire post. So once again you, my BFF, are full of crap. As a loser you never fail to disappoint.

Most on here would be happy to have a discussion but you don’t have any idea how to do that. Even the Liberals here won’t touch your, toxic to common sense, comments.

Dennis

dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho

Courts would say that idea is unconstitutional as it separates those people as a threatened class. Besides there is no law against purchasing alcohol nor should there be. This from a basic non drinker. Felons do not buy guns. They steal them or buy from others who stole them.

Not any part of a good answer.

Dennis

dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho

I doubt that is true. There were and still are trucks moving heavy freight long before Ike’s highway system. Horsedrawn wagons before trains.

Dennis