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Jul 18, 2018 22:07:54   #
newtoyou Loc: Eastport
 
First thing, to jerry41. I think I am speaking for many when I say thank you for initiating this line of thought. I saw a mention of how females form friendships and bond better that men. I would argue that women EMOTE. They share. Men do the same only, my opinion, when under the influence. I am out living my friends and relatives. I have started to value them more. This post has prompted me to establish contact with someone I had written off. It was worth it. We are both older, things change. Bill

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Jul 18, 2018 22:30:18   #
DAVE FISHING Loc: Phoenix,Arizona
 
I have one friend from high school 56years ago up until couple years ago we hunted and fish together, his back has gone out, I call him couple times a month. Have meet a bunch of new guys, sense I started shooting sporting clays. We go out afterwards and eat and tell each other our stories. The trouble I have with a lot of my friends is I have to do all of the calling or email to get things going. I hear all the time I have been thinking about calling you. Don't wait until it is to late? wife just says she has a honey do??? latter.

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Jul 18, 2018 23:24:10   #
Chaostrain Loc: Hillsboro, Oregon
 
I have only one friend, that's my wife. Everybody else I know is an acquaintance through work and we vary rarely talk about anything besides work.

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Jul 18, 2018 23:40:34   #
newtoyou Loc: Eastport
 
jeep_daddy wrote:
Many of us are in the same boat as you Jerry. I have examined that same subject and have as many good friends as I can probably count on one hand. That's it. I may be underestimating this since some people may consider themselves good friends but simply don't convey it very well. Many of the friends I've had back in school are dead or have moved on and didn't keep in touch. I have only kept in touch with 2 friends from grade school, and a couple from high school, and then I've made a few work friends over the years, and I have one friend that I met 18 years ago in a restaurant but that's about it. Two of the guys that I joined the Coast Guard with have passed away.

I have a few drone friends that I have coffee and breakfast with twice a week with and then fly drones, but I don't know if I could call them "good" friends. I like them a lot and we all get along great or I wouldn't hang out with them. I also have some photography friends, mostly women and mostly married, but I don't know if I'd call them "good" friends either. I also have some off road buddies from my Jeep club and some of them I've known before I joined the club. I'd call 2 of them good friends. We go camping and wheeling together. I guess you never know how many friends you have until your funeral and even then it's too late for you to see since you are already dead and can't see who attends unless you fake your death and go to the funeral in cognito. LOL
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I have a few drone friends, too. They seem to fly in their own minds. I tend to avoid them. It works, because now only my true friends want my company. I have more time for them. Just wish we had more in common in photography. But, that is what UHH is for. Bill

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Jul 19, 2018 06:55:22   #
Rich2236 Loc: E. Hampstead, New Hampshire
 
jerryc41 wrote:
I read a few articles lately about friendship. I think we need more words for friends. According to the authors, most people have many casual friends, but not many real, close friends. They describe a close friend as someone we can trust with our secrets, fears, hopes, and ambitions. If we're lonely or feeling down, we call this friend to cheer us up. A casual friend is someone with whom we can discuss the weather and yesterday's game. They concluded that women are better than men at making friends, especially close friends.

Looking at my life, I have lots of friends, but not close friends. People I knew when I was younger either moved away or passed away. I have lots of casual friends, but no one really close. How about you?
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Very interesting. I have friends, but no CLOSE friends. I have yet to find a really close friend. In the past, my so-called CLOSE friend had figuratively stabbed me in the back, so I confide in no one now. And yes, I would love to have a close friend that I could confide in but.....
Rich...

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Jul 19, 2018 07:08:08   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
DAVE FISHING wrote:
The trouble I have with a lot of my friends is I have to do all of the calling or email to get things going.


A common complaint.

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Jul 19, 2018 07:08:52   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
newtoyou wrote:
I have a few drone friends, too. They seem to fly in their own minds. I tend to avoid them. It works, because now only my true friends want my company. I have more time for them. Just wish we had more in common in photography. But, that is what UHH is for. Bill


Yes, UHH is good for socializing.

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Jul 19, 2018 07:10:17   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
Rich2236 wrote:
... my so-called CLOSE friend had figuratively stabbed me in the back...


I've been fortunate to avoid this, but I know many people who have been betrayed by their supposed friends. I'm careful about what I say and who I say it to.

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Jul 19, 2018 07:14:12   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
Angel Star Photography wrote:
Hi, Jerry,

Can you provide links or references to the article? I am interested in what they have to say.


Sorry, no. I scan so many online articles every day that they quickly evaporate. A title will catch my eye, and I'll read the article. That will lead to a similar article, etc.

I just did a quick Google search -

https://www.google.com/search?q=the+fallacy+of+close+friends&rlz=1C1CHBF_enUS716US717&oq=the+fallacy+of+close+friends&aqs=chrome..69i57j69i64.11486j0j1&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

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Jul 19, 2018 07:16:03   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
Quinn 4 wrote:
For most people my age(73) pick up the newspaper and read about someone their knew from the past has die. I had that happen this morning. Had not seen this person in 35 years or more. But when I was reading about this person, my mind had go back to a another time. I finding this is to be more and more. I can't let myself become over come with sadness. I have to get back on the road and move on, because I still have miles to go.


I get the occasional email from a woman I used to work with. Most of her emails are about former colleagues who have passed away. We're getting to the point where there are fewer living than dead.

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Jul 19, 2018 07:40:32   #
bobmcculloch Loc: NYC, NY
 
Hate to say it but most are dead and/or gone,

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Jul 19, 2018 07:52:10   #
berchman Loc: South Central PA
 
I have two truly close friends. Unfortunately, one lives 1¾ hours drive away and the other lives in NYC which requires taking Amtrak for 3¼ hours after a 45 minute drive to the station. I see him only once a year, sometimes twice because now that his wife has various health issues I can't stay in his apartment any more and have to stay with a former student who is a friend, but not a close friend.

For the friend who lives a 1¾ hours drive distant, I visit him about once a month and stay for two or three nights. We bike together on a rail trail and lift weights together. He and his wife recently allowed me to set up a bunch of studio lighting in their living room and leave it there for a week. I was learning studio lighting and took his picture. I have also taken two trips to India with him and his wife and will be traveling to Indonesia with him in a few months.

I email each of these guys daily. I also have 6 semi-close friends who know my personal business and vice versa. The only one of these who lives in my area still works and spends every other weekend with his wife in another town where she works. He's very busy and is one of those people who never initiates a meeting, leaving that to me. (I hate that.) All of these people either used to work at my school or used to be students with whom I formed a close relationship.

Aside from emailing these various people, I am socially isolated. I belong to two camera clubs, but the other members are at best acquaintances that I never do anything with outside of meetings and field trips. If I didn't live with a wife and a dog I don't know how I would survive. I love living in my house which was designed and built to my specifications and I love living on 9½ acres. I grew up in a three room apartment and it would be punishing to live in a small apartment again in a city. Besides, I can't afford to live in NYC, not even on Staten Island or the Bronx. I could visit my friend in NYC more often if I were willing to spend for a hotel, but I prefer to use the money to travel overseas. I no longer have a guest bedroom ever since I got rid of the bed to install studio lights and stands.

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Jul 19, 2018 10:45:15   #
Papa Joe Loc: Midwest U.S.
 
jerryc41 wrote:
I read a few articles lately about friendship. I think we need more words for friends. According to the authors, most people have many casual friends, but not many real, close friends. They describe a close friend as someone we can trust with our secrets, fears, hopes, and ambitions. If we're lonely or feeling down, we call this friend to cheer us up. A casual friend is someone with whom we can discuss the weather and yesterday's game. They concluded that women are better than men at making friends, especially close friends.

Looking at my life, I have lots of friends, but not close friends. People I knew when I was younger either moved away or passed away. I have lots of casual friends, but no one really close. How about you?
I read a few articles lately about friendship. I ... (show quote)




Jerry, at my age, most of my close friends are now deceased. I have only one I can still call my 'close' friend plus a good many 'casual friends'. Fred & I grew-up together through most of the stages that the photographic field has evolved through and because of our mutual interest in photography became close friends and still are today. I've out-lived two wives who were each my closest friend. Seems that the older one gets, the fewer friends he can claim. Guess that's the normal progression of life, eh?

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Jul 19, 2018 11:21:52   #
berchman Loc: South Central PA
 
Papa Joe wrote:
Jerry, at my age, most of my close friends are now deceased. Seems that the older one gets, the fewer friends he can claim. Guess that's the normal progression of life, eh?


Research supposedly shows that being socially isolated is equivalent to smoking 15 cigarettes a day. It takes a certain kind of person for me to be interested in becoming his friend. He has to accept or even welcome dark and obscene thoughts.

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Jul 19, 2018 12:26:04   #
ebbote Loc: Hockley, Texas
 
I have 3 very close friends that has lasted for decades, early 60s and early 70s. We stay in touch either by phone or e-mail, we have been through thick and thin together and know pretty much everything about each other. Then we got old and not very mobile, 2 have had bouts with cancer and one with heart problems, 4 heart attacks and 2 by-pass surgeries, he is still kicking. I love my friends and I hope they stick around for a long time.

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