My biggest gripe about DSLR cameras, and Camera Companies
Mar 3, 2018 12:49:06 #
Ched49 wrote:
Exactly...film is the original raw.
That’s not what the glass plate guys said...., or the tin guys before them...., YOU NEWBIE!!!
SS
Mar 3, 2018 12:53:54 #
Mar 3, 2018 13:00:10 #
I'll add to the mess. Some good comments above, and some just funny.
1. You can get more adaptive ISO range on a DLSR, even the low end unts, than you ever could in Film. You cannot think Film ISO anymore, complete change, but the concept is still the same. Low ISO is slow and high ISO is faster. But start shooting RAW and in the post processing workflow, improt presets or create a match that is the same as the old film types and apply to all photos of your choice. There are much more options in DSLR today that you shake a stick at.
2. Yes the old toys are antiques now, and should be retired and but up for show or in a box.
3. Watch some YouTube examples, and then go shoot. With your film experince, you will start using your old techniques and tricks to apply to Digital and see your pictures NOW, not when developed. No cost to delete photos. And with software you can learn from your photos, because you can now see all the settings of the photos inside each shot. With film you had to write down each setting for each shot of just never knew. You can review and learn from your shots now, even 2 weeks later when you forgot all about what setting your camera was set to.
4. learn how to use the Quick setting on the camera for many basic settings, like ISO, White Balance, Shutter Speed, F Stop, and others. I can see my changes right in the view finder as I change things.
5.Foget the question. Just buy a new camera. No one is going to retrofit anything. Ever see a 55 Chevy get air conditioning put in it. Don't see them around much either.
Good luck and explore the new things with digital that you never could in Film and Learn about RAW and post processing.
1. You can get more adaptive ISO range on a DLSR, even the low end unts, than you ever could in Film. You cannot think Film ISO anymore, complete change, but the concept is still the same. Low ISO is slow and high ISO is faster. But start shooting RAW and in the post processing workflow, improt presets or create a match that is the same as the old film types and apply to all photos of your choice. There are much more options in DSLR today that you shake a stick at.
2. Yes the old toys are antiques now, and should be retired and but up for show or in a box.
3. Watch some YouTube examples, and then go shoot. With your film experince, you will start using your old techniques and tricks to apply to Digital and see your pictures NOW, not when developed. No cost to delete photos. And with software you can learn from your photos, because you can now see all the settings of the photos inside each shot. With film you had to write down each setting for each shot of just never knew. You can review and learn from your shots now, even 2 weeks later when you forgot all about what setting your camera was set to.
4. learn how to use the Quick setting on the camera for many basic settings, like ISO, White Balance, Shutter Speed, F Stop, and others. I can see my changes right in the view finder as I change things.
5.Foget the question. Just buy a new camera. No one is going to retrofit anything. Ever see a 55 Chevy get air conditioning put in it. Don't see them around much either.
Good luck and explore the new things with digital that you never could in Film and Learn about RAW and post processing.
Mar 3, 2018 13:02:42 #
Now those memories come back to haunt me, they haunt me like a curse
Is a dream a lie if it don't come true
Or is it something worse that sends me
Down to the river though I know the river is dry ...
Is a dream a lie if it don't come true
Or is it something worse that sends me
Down to the river though I know the river is dry ...
Mar 3, 2018 13:16:09 #
Sometimes too many features and setting options on a camera can get in the way of what's really important. Whenever I visit tourist sites, I often encounter frustrated tourists struggling with their camera menu systems. Clearly, technology is getting in the way from taking pictures in comfort and enjoying the trip.
Mar 3, 2018 13:29:25 #
You want the look of film?
That is done in Post Processing, not the camera. Shoot in RAW and then edit, including a choice of which film you want it to look like.
Many PP Apps come with menus of "film looks" and others have plug-ins/presets available to duplicate the look of films.
Which PP software do you use?
That is done in Post Processing, not the camera. Shoot in RAW and then edit, including a choice of which film you want it to look like.
Many PP Apps come with menus of "film looks" and others have plug-ins/presets available to duplicate the look of films.
Which PP software do you use?
Mar 3, 2018 13:33:17 #
The difference between double clutching an 18 wheeler in days past, and getting into a new truck that does not even have a key, but needs a password, to engage the software, is more of the kind of analogy I was trying to state.
I don't care if the manufacturers, never listen to anyone out there about ways to improve their product.
I don't care if no one else is having problems, I care that I am having problems.
I bought my first Gigital 12 years ago to list items on eBay.
My kids got the the DSLR about 7 years ago, and I have been out with my daughter, who has a BS in communication, (and took photo classes for 4 years, and just as the DSLRs were coming into play) and she has shown mw some things, but it is not the same.
At some point I will decide to put the work into learning all about it.
It was like when I was first introduced to binary and learned about Bits and Bytes Zeros and Ones.
And when I worked at D.E.C. I learned why software techs called it debugging when there is a problem in the software, because when the Whirlwind computer was up and running, (Only at night because it took too much electricity) the memory was made up of racks and racks of tubes and moths use to fly through the windows and short out some pieces, so they had to check for moths before they started up the machine.
I don't care if the manufacturers, never listen to anyone out there about ways to improve their product.
I don't care if no one else is having problems, I care that I am having problems.
I bought my first Gigital 12 years ago to list items on eBay.
My kids got the the DSLR about 7 years ago, and I have been out with my daughter, who has a BS in communication, (and took photo classes for 4 years, and just as the DSLRs were coming into play) and she has shown mw some things, but it is not the same.
At some point I will decide to put the work into learning all about it.
It was like when I was first introduced to binary and learned about Bits and Bytes Zeros and Ones.
And when I worked at D.E.C. I learned why software techs called it debugging when there is a problem in the software, because when the Whirlwind computer was up and running, (Only at night because it took too much electricity) the memory was made up of racks and racks of tubes and moths use to fly through the windows and short out some pieces, so they had to check for moths before they started up the machine.
Mar 3, 2018 13:34:06 #
Mar 3, 2018 13:38:09 #
Most of what I shoot today is for listings on eBay, or I scan with an Epson Scanner.
I still play 78 r.p.m. records.
And I learned to download new pixels every 3 months or so, because they get blurry.
My son in law showed me how to do that.
And he told me the Russian Pixels were the sharpest in the world.
So about every 90 days I do a refresh of my pixels, and I can't believe how vibrant my scans are after the refresh.
Not really!
I still play 78 r.p.m. records.
And I learned to download new pixels every 3 months or so, because they get blurry.
My son in law showed me how to do that.
And he told me the Russian Pixels were the sharpest in the world.
So about every 90 days I do a refresh of my pixels, and I can't believe how vibrant my scans are after the refresh.
Not really!
Mar 3, 2018 13:44:09 #
abstractist72 wrote:
Feel free to add to this GRIPE, if you feel the sa... (show quote)
To gripe 1, you can set any film speed/ISO you want in a DSLR, to gripe 2, you can still use that wonderful camera of yours, film is still around! To gripe 3, practice, practice and hey some practice! To gripe 4, get to know your equipment/tools, its all part of the fun! To gripe 5, as mentioned before, you can set any film speed/ISO you like and can replicate pretty much any film type in pp (different times, different tools)!
Mar 3, 2018 13:45:52 #
Sorry Dennis, changing the ISO or ASA to mimic film speed was not the issue. Kodak ASA 200 and Fuji ASA 200 give you completely different types of results, also VPS gives different results.
The film, FUJI, they had a procedure that gave deeper dark colors, then Kodak.
Kodak had slower film, and Kodachrome was 100% different in results than Ektachrome or Agfachrome.
But I guess if all you ever knew was ASA 25 or 64 or 400, and did not care what the film was then you could not guarantee what your results would look like.
Here is a hint, most of National Geographics photos were shot with CHROME film or slide film, because of the depth of color available in printing.
The film, FUJI, they had a procedure that gave deeper dark colors, then Kodak.
Kodak had slower film, and Kodachrome was 100% different in results than Ektachrome or Agfachrome.
But I guess if all you ever knew was ASA 25 or 64 or 400, and did not care what the film was then you could not guarantee what your results would look like.
Here is a hint, most of National Geographics photos were shot with CHROME film or slide film, because of the depth of color available in printing.
Mar 3, 2018 13:50:17 #
Mar 3, 2018 13:55:50 #
abstractist72 wrote:
Feel free to add to this GRIPE, if you feel the sa... (show quote)
Set it to Auto Mode and shoot away...
bwa
Mar 3, 2018 14:02:08 #
abstractist72 wrote:
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Mar 3, 2018 14:58:47 #
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