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May 18, 2018 07:34:16   #
cybercord Loc: Ga, USA
 
Well not everyone is a photographer, but they are at least picture takers. Just cause you have $5k in camera equipment does not mean you know how to take pictures. I take car racing pictures, and just like cars, just cause you have a fast car does not improve your ability to drive at fast speeds. :)

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May 20, 2018 17:02:20   #
Tomcat5133 Loc: Gladwyne PA
 
abstractist72 wrote:
Feel free to add to this GRIPE, if you feel the same way I do.

I started taking photographs 57 years ago with a Zeiss Ikon rangefinder 35 mm film camera.

I developed my own film and printed black and white photos for around 15 years, having moved to a few better cameras in the process.

1st upgrade was a Honeywell Pentax SLR with 35 mm, 55 mm and 135 mm lenses.

Later to a Nikon FM2 with 28 mm, 55 mm, 135 mm, and 200 mm.

Using every conceivable type of film possible.

I did portraiture, weddings, anniversary parties, Nature, you name it I just about photographed it.

This was all a hobby for me, I was only a professionally employed photographer for about 2 months, long story (won't go into that).

My GRIPE is what the camera companies did and did not do, and there missed opportunities when they developed DSLR cameras.

Now I would like to say, my camera bag had many varieties of film always ready for any occasion.

And when I would compose and shoot the image, I stopped using a light meter many years ago, as I was as accurate as my Lunapro would say for a certain scene.

Retired, I was given a DSLR 35 mm size Nikon for a Christmas present, with 2 lenses. It was a bundle.

So here are some GRIPES:

1: After so many years of shooting film, I knew which film to grab for what occasion, and what ASA would work the best for that situation. DSLR camera makers should have given the owners of these cameras, a set of film types, to choose from, and the camera would mimic the results of those types of film. So If I wanted to use a Fuj1 400, I could choose that in a menu, and the camera would act as if I had Fuji 400 in the camera.

2: I have a lot of very good camera equipment, that is now like the old toys in Toy Story, that FM2 is a wonderful camera, and Nikon should have made it possible for owners of their cameras, to send them in to be retrofitted with DSLR innards.

3: Feeling stupid, because the instruction are printed for someone that can read and follow instructions. I cannot, I am a visual learner, I learn by watching, and by doing. My camera has charts and graphs and histograms??????
I would just like to not feel so stupid, and be able to create those great pictures that I did with my film cameras.

4: Using this Nikon DSLR it almost like a chore, the ASA is off the wall, and I try to think what can this camera do for me, I know there are great possibilities, but 1/2 the time, I cannot find the right setting is in in Wrenches, or the Camera body?

5: I believe if a camera company, made the adjustments, that I have stated, being able to mimic film, by choosing the type of film in a menu, VPS, Tri-X, Kodacolor, Fuji 200, etc. I think that would go a long way to help older film camera users be able to accomplish getting the most out of their cameras.
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You can pick film looks for your pictures from a inexpensive plug in Alien Skin has been around for years. It has reams of film stock filters for your shots.
Visual Learning google and youtube have 100's of photography how to's by really good people. I have used for stills and video extensively.

I think I know what is bothering you and I agree. It is so complicated most things we do with our image equipment now. I am pretty good at high
tech but find it frustrating to get things done without a song and dance.

That said early on when I had just got into digital I sat in a chapel in Italy. tried shooting different approaches and check the screen for what I had
created. It took while until I had something that I thought would be appreciated. Now I can look at my Sony monitor or the viewfinder and
see what my settings make an image or video look like. A small miracle. Good luck.

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Jun 3, 2018 13:07:48   #
SierraP Loc: Eastern Sierras
 
First off, since the manufacturers are smart, they do not make DSLR's that are film friendly for us old film shooters. Face it we are dying out so that is a disappearing market. There is no real market there in the first place. "We are a dying market".
Secondly, you learned film, get off of your rear and join the twenty-first century and learn digital. There are dozens of book & manuals out there to give you a bump start into the real world. You will find that you can do anything you could with film and more, and easier in digital without breathing developer/ fixer fumes. So stop complaining and join us old dudes in the digital world.

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Jun 3, 2018 13:29:30   #
Bill_de Loc: US
 
For what it's worth, the OP posted this on March 3, made a few replies ending on March 4. He has not been heard from since. I have a feeling he's gotten it all out of his system.

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Jun 3, 2018 14:50:33   #
donald4u Loc: California
 
Well I hope you feel better. I am from the old film days. Using D 76 and fixer to do my films. Enlarging it on a Omega D2v ..Ahhh smelling the chemicals. Now I have a dslr. I learn a lot from Utube. I have blown up my pictures at home to 8X10 and my photo buddy has done the 11X14. May I remind you that when we got into low light. We used Diafine to push the film . Now how about a point and shoot camera. That car you drive should be replace by a horse and buggy. All kidding aside. There are Utube videos that show you how to set your camera. Good luck with that horse. HINT. Never stand behind a horse in the early morning. :>

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Jun 4, 2018 18:17:43   #
Photocraig
 
Abstract,
GET OVER IT!
Your DSLR has all the ways you need to take any picture you want. Start with ASA--ISO to the DSLR. Same concept, same numbers. Pick a low number like 100 or 200. You'll get smooth exposures. Neat thing is, for those 3 shots that would have been mid roll, you can goose it up to 1600 or 3200 and get interiors or fast action.

AND, you don't have to wait for development. You can see what you got instantly--even faster than Mr. Land's invention right on a bright screen. Then use your photosmarts to make the adjustments and shoot again.

You even have the same choice to go B&W in what we call Post Processing on the not so smelly computer. No second body with separate film. There is software--some of it FREE that will allow you to choose to make an image monochrome and compare--while still keeping all the color data in the file.

Sure, I'd like a digital back to my FM2 or Canon A2, but that's not what this is about. This is a way to capture images in digital form that gives you infinitely more options and capabilities that we ever thought about with our film relics. So, now that you've blown it all out your stack, go to You Tube, and search to your heart's in the privacy of your own room. Keep an open mind and have fun re-learning and enjoying your old fascination with capturing and developing images.

And, check out how to get prints from Costco or Walmart and send some with a thank you note--long overdue--to whoever gave you this new window onto the world.

Craig
(a former Plus X, Fuji Portrait, Agfa Portrait and Ilford Delta BIGOT)

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