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May 12, 2012 10:33:59   #
AUminer Loc: Brandon, Ms
 
I think your last statement is off the mark. The choice by a photographer to use an auto setting has nothing to do with being a "pro".
clicktime wrote:
You guys are missing the point here. Even a cheap point and shoot camera has modes like these. They are for beginners who don't understand the manual settings on a camera. There is a pritty complicated computer in that p&s. When you set one of these modes and you press the shutter button half way down, you are telling the camera to look in it's data base for the settings that will make this seen properly exposed. That in combination with the light meter reading on the camera lets it choose from thousands of pre- programed pictures in it's data base and it chooses one that best matches what you are pointing it at. Then it uses those settings for the shot. The better the camera the bigger the data base and the better it can match the shot in front of it. Quite amazing techno I think. But never use it or you will be non pro.
You guys are missing the point here. Even a cheap ... (show quote)

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May 12, 2012 10:49:56   #
Frapha Loc: Tulsa, Oklahoma
 
First, I'll admit I haven't tried this, but ..... as a "learning tool", what's wrong with taking the shot in whatever scene mode you choose, then look at all the EXIF data of the shot you like, then try replicating those settings in M, A or S mode? Could that be a learning tool for someone? Just a thought....

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May 12, 2012 11:40:29   #
Greg-Colo Loc: Fort Collins,Co
 
jerryc41 wrote:
GoofyNewfie wrote:
Really nice shot, photopop!

I've even seen a "food' mode on a camera.
Not sure what that's about at all!
I use only A, S, & M modes 'cause I want to do the thinking.

Don't laugh. My D5100 has modes for Food and Pets, and you don't want to ge them mixed up! Then there's Night Portrait, Night Landscape, Candlelight, Blossom, Autumn Colors, Party Indoors, Beach/Snow - these are all available through the menu. The dial on the camera has more, like Child
I wish they had a few more. There's nothing for fishing or playing golf or watching TV.
quote=GoofyNewfie Really nice shot, photopop! br ... (show quote)

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May 12, 2012 11:42:43   #
Greg-Colo Loc: Fort Collins,Co
 
Greg-Colo wrote:
jerryc41 wrote:
GoofyNewfie wrote:
Really nice shot, photopop!

I've even seen a "food' mode on a camera.
Not sure what that's about at all!
I use only A, S, & M modes 'cause I want to do the thinking.

Don't laugh. My D5100 has modes for Food and Pets, and you don't want to ge them mixed up! Then there's Night Portrait, Night Landscape, Candlelight, Blossom, Autumn Colors, Party Indoors, Beach/Snow - these are all available through the menu. The dial on the camera has more, like Child
I wish they had a few more. There's nothing for fishing or playing golf or watching TV.
quote=GoofyNewfie Really nice shot, photopop! br ... (show quote)
quote=jerryc41 quote=GoofyNewfie Really nice sho... (show quote)
. I can't find the golf setting either

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May 12, 2012 11:56:22   #
Michael greiner-marcotte Loc: Meze,France
 
I like to use the manual modes most of the time, but it does not hurt to use a scene mode and see what comes out. And you can take the settings and apply to manual modes with different variations.

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May 12, 2012 12:02:44   #
pounder35 Loc: "Southeast of Disorder"
 
I hardly ever shoot P (full program). It's shutter preferred for action or when I want to show motion such as with a waterfall or stream. Otherwise I shoot aperture preferred for depth of field. Sometimes full manual when I think I'm smarter than the camera. Most times I'm not. LOL!

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May 12, 2012 12:06:20   #
planepics Loc: St. Louis burbs, but originally Chicago burbs
 
I watched this last night about photographing sunsets.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRcaEW4ar3o
It's a really good video!

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May 12, 2012 12:26:20   #
JMorris271 Loc: Columbia,SC
 
My wife and I will be doing a European river cruise this June. I want to bring home some good shots. Without sounding too rhetorical,the trip cost a chunk of cash for the 15 days.
My skills are not developed to a degree that I can be 100% sure of good captures. With this being the case, I will have to rely on the guts of my Nikon and not guess work.
I can play around at home to learn where it doesn't matter.
Maybe some day,I can do another trip and use manual all the time.

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May 12, 2012 12:29:12   #
Audwulf Loc: Golden State
 
To get the most out of a camera manual, Try a "Magic Lantern" manual for your camera. It explains your camera from a users point of view, not a "Techno Geek" approach. IMHO.

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May 12, 2012 12:38:03   #
pounder35 Loc: "Southeast of Disorder"
 
JMorris271 wrote:
My wife and I will be doing a European river cruise this June. I want to bring home some good shots. Without sounding too rhetorical,the trip cost a chunk of cash for the 15 days.
My skills are not developed to a degree that I can be 100% sure of good captures. With this being the case, I will have to rely on the guts of my Nikon and not guess work.
I can play around at home to learn where it doesn't matter.
Maybe some day,I can do another trip and use manual all the time.


If the pictures don't come out right you can send me over there to take the shots again. Not that I'm a great photographer but it's worth a try since I can't afford the trip. :lol: :thumbup: 1st class will be OK also. :lol:

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May 12, 2012 13:46:31   #
buddyro48 Loc: Central Coast California
 
Very nice Photopop...beautiful image

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May 12, 2012 13:48:44   #
wlgoode Loc: Globe, AZ
 
photopop44 wrote:
An observation I've made about DSLRs is the less expensive ones have some "modes" for different scenes or situations maybe one of the modes being "scene". The higher the price the more scenes until the price becomes "Professional" and then most/all of the scenes go away. The little bit of explanation I get from my owners manual and camera describes easy shutter speed and aperture adjustments that I'm smart enough to make on my own however landscape, portrait and sunset mention bringing out different colors. I see that this can be done by making adjustments to the White Balance. Is this what owners of Pro quality cameras do to bring out colors or do they do it with editing soft ware? The D 5100's perspective control and fish eye effect are not an adjustment I can make!

I've used my SCENE setting one time. I selected Sunset, put the camera on a tripod, pointed it at the sunset and pushed the button. I thought the Olympus did a pretty good job.
An observation I've made about DSLRs is the less e... (show quote)


The less expensive cameras are meant to appeal to first time buyers (but many are good enough for pro use) many beginners start by using their DSLRs like a Point & Shoot camera, hence the modes but these cameras, and bridge cameras, allow them to advance their skills as they gain more experience.

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May 12, 2012 14:01:14   #
pounder35 Loc: "Southeast of Disorder"
 
wlgoode wrote:
photopop44 wrote:
An observation I've made about DSLRs is the less expensive ones have some "modes" for different scenes or situations maybe one of the modes being "scene". The higher the price the more scenes until the price becomes "Professional" and then most/all of the scenes go away. The little bit of explanation I get from my owners manual and camera describes easy shutter speed and aperture adjustments that I'm smart enough to make on my own however landscape, portrait and sunset mention bringing out different colors. I see that this can be done by making adjustments to the White Balance. Is this what owners of Pro quality cameras do to bring out colors or do they do it with editing soft ware? The D 5100's perspective control and fish eye effect are not an adjustment I can make!

I've used my SCENE setting one time. I selected Sunset, put the camera on a tripod, pointed it at the sunset and pushed the button. I thought the Olympus did a pretty good job.
An observation I've made about DSLRs is the less e... (show quote)


The less expensive cameras are meant to appeal to first time buyers (but many are good enough for pro use) many beginners start by using their DSLRs like a Point & Shoot camera, hence the modes but these cameras, and bridge cameras, allow them to advance their skills as they gain more experience.
quote=photopop44 An observation I've made about D... (show quote)


I would have to agree with the P/S comment. There are plenty out there that offer multiple settings such as shutter or aperture perferred as well as the full program mode. Problem is they cost almost as must as an entry level DSLR. Only advantage is they are smaller and easy to carry. Maybe in a shirt pocket and purse when you don't want to carry around a large camera bag. A decent zoom ratio and decent MP will take care of most needs. I'm shopping for one right now but I'll never leave for a trip without my Canon DSLR. :thumbup:

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May 12, 2012 14:03:15   #
wlgoode Loc: Globe, AZ
 
pounder35 wrote:
wlgoode wrote:
photopop44 wrote:
An observation I've made about DSLRs is the less expensive ones have some "modes" for different scenes or situations maybe one of the modes being "scene". The higher the price the more scenes until the price becomes "Professional" and then most/all of the scenes go away. The little bit of explanation I get from my owners manual and camera describes easy shutter speed and aperture adjustments that I'm smart enough to make on my own however landscape, portrait and sunset mention bringing out different colors. I see that this can be done by making adjustments to the White Balance. Is this what owners of Pro quality cameras do to bring out colors or do they do it with editing soft ware? The D 5100's perspective control and fish eye effect are not an adjustment I can make!

I've used my SCENE setting one time. I selected Sunset, put the camera on a tripod, pointed it at the sunset and pushed the button. I thought the Olympus did a pretty good job.
An observation I've made about DSLRs is the less e... (show quote)


The less expensive cameras are meant to appeal to first time buyers (but many are good enough for pro use) many beginners start by using their DSLRs like a Point & Shoot camera, hence the modes but these cameras, and bridge cameras, allow them to advance their skills as they gain more experience.
quote=photopop44 An observation I've made about D... (show quote)


I would have to agree with the P/S comment. There are plenty out there that offer multiple settings such as shutter or aperture perferred as well as the full program mode. Problem is they cost almost as must as an entry level DSLR. Only advantage is they are smaller and easy to carry. Maybe in a shirt pocket and purse when you don't want to carry around a large camera bag. A decent zoom ratio and decent MP will take care of most needs. I'm shopping for one right now but I'll never leave for a trip without my Canon DSLR. :thumbup:
quote=wlgoode quote=photopop44 An observation I'... (show quote)


You might want to check out bridge cameras or the newer MILCs.

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May 12, 2012 14:27:35   #
Indi Loc: L. I., NY, Palm Beach Cty when it's cold.
 
I started off using P mode on my D5100 until I read "Understanding Exposure," by Bryan Peterson (I think that's the author.) After reading about 30 pages I was already using Manual. Occasionally, I use one of the Effects, or Scene settings, like indoors trying to get a shot of my 2 year old granddaughter.
I always use 2 particular settings in the Menu; Vivid, in the Set Picture Control sub-menu of the Shooting Menu and Active D-Lighting in the Shooting Menu.
Referring again to "Understanding Exposure," Peterson explains that he prefers to shoot with his WB setting in Cloudy because he prefers warmer colors. I like this too, but when shooting indoors you have to adjust.

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