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May 12, 2012 07:23:27   #
Farview Loc: PA
 
Love your sunset pic, thx for sharing it. I'm trying to learn to use M settings rather than auto, takes time.

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May 12, 2012 07:35:40   #
Mac Loc: Pittsburgh, Philadelphia now Hernando Co. Fl.
 
That is a really nice picture.

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May 12, 2012 07:38:16   #
Gidgette Loc: Boerne,Texas
 
Welcome to UHH. Which camera do have, Olymus what? Beautiful shot, thanks for sharing.

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May 12, 2012 07:50:10   #
Cadugand Loc: Houston, Texas
 
Glad to see someone still shooting with a D70. My old D70 is still around as my backup. Love it.
The modes are there just to make adjustments that experienced photographers do almost automatically. If you have a camera with modes, experiment with them and see what results. Also learn from them. What settings did the manufacturer use? They do know photography. I use "A" for 80% of my shots, bracket a lot, and add in some prayer.
[quote=Roger Hicks]
photopop44 wrote:
With the exception of my Nikon D70,

R.

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May 12, 2012 07:50:13   #
Cornishpete Loc: Illinois
 
ckcougar wrote:
I also use M,A & S as I am still new at this. Auto seems like cheating but I do use it in an emergency shot. Whatever setting you shot on was great! Lovely sky!


CK, I don't see that it is anymore 'cheating' than getting in your car, selecting 'D' on the transmission and off you go! I have to admit though that 50 years ago, back in the UK where 90% of cars had manual stick shift we did think auto transmission was for wimps. None of that whoosie stuff on my Triumph TR2 or Landrover!
And beautiful sunset Photopop

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May 12, 2012 08:30:46   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
GoofyNewfie wrote:
Really nice shot, photopop!

I've even seen a "food' mode on a camera.
Not sure what that's about at all!
I use only A, S, & M modes 'cause I want to do the thinking.

Don't laugh. My D5100 has modes for Food and Pets, and you don't want to ge them mixed up! Then there's Night Portrait, Night Landscape, Candlelight, Blossom, Autumn Colors, Party Indoors, Beach/Snow - these are all available through the menu. The dial on the camera has more, like Child and Sports.

I wish they had a few more. There's nothing for fishing or playing golf or watching TV.

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May 12, 2012 08:57:39   #
jeep_daddy Loc: Prescott AZ
 
Nice image! In Canon camera bodies these "scenes modes" you speak of are called "picture styles". Yes, you do see picture styles on most of the non pro style cameras. Those picture styles sort of pre process jpg images in the camera so that some enhancements are already done for you by the camera. I can't list them all without going to my manual but some include sharpening, tone, contrast, color etc. They do not affect RAW images.



photopop44 wrote:
An observation I've made about DSLRs is the less expensive ones have some "modes" for different scenes or situations maybe one of the modes being "scene". The higher the price the more scenes until the price becomes "Professional" and then most/all of the scenes go away. The little bit of explanation I get from my owners manual and camera describes easy shutter speed and aperture adjustments that I'm smart enough to make on my own however landscape, portrait and sunset mention bringing out different colors. I see that this can be done by making adjustments to the White Balance. Is this what owners of Pro quality cameras do to bring out colors or do they do it with editing soft ware? The D 5100's perspective control and fish eye effect are not an adjustment I can make!

I've used my SCENE setting one time. I selected Sunset, put the camera on a tripod, pointed it at the sunset and pushed the button. I thought the Olympus did a pretty good job.
An observation I've made about DSLRs is the less e... (show quote)

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May 12, 2012 09:00:15   #
UP-2-IT Loc: RED STICK, LA
 
[quote=photopop44]An observation I've made about DSLRs is the less expensive ones have some "modes" for different scenes or situations maybe one of the modes being "scene". The higher the price the more scenes until the price becomes "Professional" and then most/all of the scenes go away. The little bit of explanation I get from my owners manual and camera describes easy shutter speed and aperture adjustments that I'm smart enough to make on my own however landscape, portrait and sunset mention bringing out different colors. I see that this can be done by making adjustments to the White Balance. Is this what owners of Pro quality cameras do to bring out colors or do they do it with editing soft ware? The D 5100's perspective control and fish eye effect are not an adjustment I can make!

I've used my SCENE setting one time. I selected Sunset, put the camera on a tripod, pointed it at the sunset and pushed the button. I thought the Olympus did a pretty good job.[/quot


Very good shot

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May 12, 2012 09:05:04   #
PhotoArtsLA Loc: Boynton Beach
 
I have never used "scene modes," only my 30+ years as Director of Photography to determine exposure and composition. Never fails me.

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May 12, 2012 09:08:31   #
MtnMan Loc: ID
 
photopop44 wrote:
I see that this can be done by making adjustments to the White Balance.

Is this what owners of Pro quality cameras do to bring out colors or do they do it with editing soft ware?


From what I have heard from professionals is that they shoot RAW so White Balance does not matter. They choose the white balance in post processing. It adjusts hue, saturation, and something called vibrance which I don't understand.

The exception was a photojournalist who worked for a newspaper and shot in jpeg/auto white balance. If you think about the needs of his pics you might see why.

The scene modes might adjust anything adjustable. They don't tell you what they do...trade secret I guess. As I understand it they calibrate the settings using tens of thousands of actual photographs. When you use Auto the camera first tries to figure out what scene mode to apply. With my Nikon you can see what scene mode it is choosing if you use Live View and I guess you can check what it chose for some things in the Exif data.

(PS: clever thread title :) )

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May 12, 2012 09:19:18   #
PlushToy Loc: Nebraska
 
Great Pic.

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May 12, 2012 09:30:07   #
clicktime Loc: Yucca Valley Ca.
 
You guys are missing the point here. Even a cheap point and shoot camera has modes like these. They are for beginners who don't understand the manual settings on a camera. There is a pritty complicated computer in that p&s. When you set one of these modes and you press the shutter button half way down, you are telling the camera to look in it's data base for the settings that will make this seen properly exposed. That in combination with the light meter reading on the camera lets it choose from thousands of pre- programed pictures in it's data base and it chooses one that best matches what you are pointing it at. Then it uses those settings for the shot. The better the camera the bigger the data base and the better it can match the shot in front of it. Quite amazing techno I think. But never use it or you will be non pro.

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May 12, 2012 09:44:58   #
Photoman74 Loc: Conroe Tx
 
photopop44 wrote:
An observation I've made about DSLRs is the less expensive ones have some "modes" for different scenes or situations maybe one of the modes being "scene". The higher the price the more scenes until the price becomes "Professional" and then most/all of the scenes go away. The little bit of explanation I get from my owners manual and camera describes easy shutter speed and aperture adjustments that I'm smart enough to make on my own however landscape, portrait and sunset mention bringing out different colors. I see that this can be done by making adjustments to the White Balance. Is this what owners of Pro quality cameras do to bring out colors or do they do it with editing soft ware? The D 5100's perspective control and fish eye effect are not an adjustment I can make!

I've used my SCENE setting one time. I selected Sunset, put the camera on a tripod, pointed it at the sunset and pushed the button. I thought the Olympus did a pretty good job.
An observation I've made about DSLRs is the less e... (show quote)


:thumbup: :thumbup:

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May 12, 2012 10:03:12   #
MadMike Loc: SALT LAKE
 
I think we are missing the point here, this is a great picture. It really doesn't matter what settings he used, when you hang it on the wall, no one cares. I might have taken a few in auto mode, but I'm not going to throw them away just because I didn't make all the adjustments myself, or had to do it in PP. USE WHAT WORKS, I prefer a great picture in an AUIO mode, than an average one because you are still learning.

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May 12, 2012 10:13:10   #
CAM1017 Loc: Chiloquin, Oregon
 
photopop44 wrote:
An observation I've made about DSLRs is the less expensive ones have some "modes" for different scenes or situations maybe one of the modes being "scene". The higher the price the more scenes until the price becomes "Professional" and then most/all of the scenes go away. The little bit of explanation I get from my owners manual and camera describes easy shutter speed and aperture adjustments that I'm smart enough to make on my own however landscape, portrait and sunset mention bringing out different colors. I see that this can be done by making adjustments to the White Balance. Is this what owners of Pro quality cameras do to bring out colors or do they do it with editing soft ware? The D 5100's perspective control and fish eye effect are not an adjustment I can make!

I've used my SCENE setting one time. I selected Sunset, put the camera on a tripod, pointed it at the sunset and pushed the button. I thought the Olympus did a pretty good job.
An observation I've made about DSLRs is the less e... (show quote)


It did a great job! :thumbup:

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