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Apr 1, 2012 23:05:28   #
frederdane Loc: Orlando, FL
 
marcomarks wrote:
nicedream wrote:
I'm moving from St Louis to Tampa in a week! It's a return trip for me as I went to high school in the sunshine state. Have totally documented Stl and now have a new opportunity. One of the trips I'd like to take is into the Everglades to do wildlife photography.

My understanding is that people have released pet Boa
s and Pythons there and they are taking over. Also want pics of gators.

My understanding is that this site is based in Miami. Has anyone done anything like this? Perhaps I should hire an airboat and a guide? Please advise.
I'm moving from St Louis to Tampa in a week! It's... (show quote)


Alligator Alley runs between Miami and Naples, so you can reach it from either end. Yes Boas are quite rampant in the 'glades.' As a matter of fact, a documentary I saw said that Boas and Pythons have reproduced and multiplied so much that they have even spread north until a few have been found in the wild near Jacksonville!

I'm in the Ft. Myers area now and there was a report on WINK-TV in Ft. Myers just this week that a 15-foot Boa was caught and killed here in Lee County by a couple specialists. They showed the men dragging its corpse up into a pickup bed and it had to be folded in half to shut the tailgate. Of course some spotted-owl tree-hugger nuts were quoted as complaining that it was cruelty to the snake to kill it. Let one eat their poodle or toddler and they might change their tune. I've also heard that Boas are also threatening the panther population here - if you can imagine a Boa being fast enough to catch a panther. Then again, where would a panther sleep that a Boa couldn't go there? Certainly not in a tree..

There was also a report a few weeks back where a Boa tried to eat an alligator. The Boa died trying and the alligator died of suffocation with the front half of it inside the Boa, so there they laid - both dead.

I talked to a guy this week who likes to go from Ft. Myers to the Keys in his built-up topless 4X4 Jeep CJ8 as recreation with his wife. I talked about taking my motorcycle down there sometime and he warned me to do so only in the daytime and get to my destination before dark. Not because of 'gators, but mostly because Boas come out and lay in the road at night (probably because of the warm pavement) and hitting one with a motorcycle could be far worse than dodging a alligator. He has seen Boas down there that were hit by cars.

The Boas and Pythons have apparently become very hazardous to the wildlife in FL because they will eat anything they can kill including each other. And this all happened in the last decade from just a few imported ones that became too large to keep in homes and the owners released them into the wild.

Definitely stay in an air boat unless you're on a suicide mission!
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Mosquitoes or alligators? I wonder which you'll remember as being the greater nuisance.

Although I lived in Fort Lauderdale for several years, I regret never having made it to the Everglades, so I envy you your trip.

One of the wonders of the place is that it plays host to both alligators and crocodiles, apparently the only place where both species are found together.

Alligator alley, a toll road (Interstate 75, the Everglades Parkway), runs from Fort Lauderdale to Naples, not from Miami. The earlier constructed Tamiami trail, Highway 41, does connect Miami to Naples, running approximately thirty miles south of The Parkway.

Flamingo, reachable only by boat or by the road out of Florida City, has an interesting history. It was once considered as a possible starting point for the Flagler railroad that ran from south of Miami to Key West.

As I recall, not too long ago, there was a bareboat charter company in Flamingo that rented Sharpies, an extremely shoal draft boat that draws less than two feet. A great article on cruising the area in such a boat can be found at www.hallman.org/bolger/BlackSkimmer. That vessel drew 10". It would be wonderful to cruise the area in virtual solitude, with the ability to stay out several days in a boat with mosquitoe netting protecting the cabin below. A famous South Floridian, Ralph Monroe, is also said to have possibly introduced the Sharpie to Florida Bay and Bay Biscayne waters. Sharpies were originally developed on the East Coast and used extensively on Chesapeake Bay where they leant themselves to oyster fishing. An uncomplicated boat, it's easy to single hand. Plans are still available for the person that wants to build his own. Any where from 20' to 32' would be the appropriate length for such a boat.

Fascinating history and the characters that built and developed this part of Florida. Most of my info based on local knowledge supplemented by a lot of info in Wikipedia.

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Apr 1, 2012 23:05:33   #
Erv Loc: Medina Ohio
 
Bmac
You you sure about that last line? :) I just can't beleive this tread has gone this far. But I too like to hear about the glades. Oh well. I am at a lose!
Erv

Bmac wrote:
marcomarks wrote:
Bmac wrote:
I think this guy/gal is trolling yet everyone keeps babbling about the Everglades, hasn't anyone, besides a couple, read what's been said by the OP? 8-)


You must be reading too many newspaper dating ads or something. I don't see any signs of trolling at all, although I'm not up on that kind of thing.


Uhmm, no, don't read dating ads, never have, and this is the first forum I have ever been part of, but here is a couple of quotes from the OP.

"Guy's, I was always going to hire a guide. Chill.
I'm a woman lover. I really like Woman, ok? Can't wait to see what you say to me."

And

"I'm 54, would you like to date?"

So, after reading the above quotes I formed an opinion that perhaps everyone was wasting their time talking to him/her about the Glades. But hell, I certainly could be wrong and besides, I like hearing about the Everglades, so keep the thread going, no harm done at all. :)
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Apr 1, 2012 23:26:58   #
picturedude Loc: Yosemite natl. park, Ca.
 
I have found that the safest place to see alligators is in a shoe store

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Apr 1, 2012 23:31:43   #
picturedude Loc: Yosemite natl. park, Ca.
 
nicedream wrote:
Guy's, I was always going to hire a guide. Chill.

I'm a woman lover. I really like Woman, ok? Can't wait to see what you say to me.


I'm still trying to figure out where this came from.....

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Apr 1, 2012 23:42:14   #
madcapmagishion
 
The Tamiami Trail the other Alligator Alley

Actually US 41 the Tamiami trail was called Alligator Alley before I-75 was thought of and built.

http://youtu.be/Rdn4HSBX1EY

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Apr 2, 2012 00:00:33   #
Sunrisepano Loc: West Sub of Chicago
 
nicedream wrote:
Common sense dictates that I'd never take a canoe trip through there.


I was thinking of using an air mattress. You know, bathing suit and catch some rays as I leisurely float through the 'glades. How much does a mosquito eat anyway?

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Apr 2, 2012 00:43:17   #
madcapmagishion
 
Sunrisepano wrote:

I was thinking of using an air mattress. You know, bathing suit and catch some rays as I leisurely float through the 'glades. How much does a mosquito eat anyway?


When feeding to repletion, a single mosquitoe can imbibe anywhere from 0.001 to 0.01 milliliter of blood.
Ten billion mosquitoes however can drain ya. :mrgreen:

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Apr 2, 2012 01:06:00   #
Sunrisepano Loc: West Sub of Chicago
 
madcapmagishion wrote:
Sunrisepano wrote:

I was thinking of using an air mattress. You know, bathing suit and catch some rays as I leisurely float through the 'glades. How much does a mosquito eat anyway?


When feeding to repletion, a single mosquitoe can imbibe anywhere from 0.001 to 0.01 milliliter of blood.
Ten billion mosquitoes however can drain ya. :mrgreen:


Yeah, but how many can fit on my surface. I'm not (quite) that large that 10 giga can fit on me. So I should have a little blood left over. Maybe just enough for the gators.

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Apr 2, 2012 01:16:44   #
madcapmagishion
 
Sunrisepano wrote:
Yeah, but how many can fit on my surface. I'm not (quite) that large that 10 giga can fit on me. So I should have a little blood left over. Maybe just enough for the gators.


Gators are not attracted to blood but strictly by motion. You do know that gators do not eat fresh kill ... right? What a gator will do is grab you, pull you under the water and drown you. Then he will stuff you under a ledge or tree roots underwater to tenderize you before he starts dinning on ya! :roll:

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Apr 2, 2012 01:54:57   #
Sunrisepano Loc: West Sub of Chicago
 
madcapmagishion wrote:
Sunrisepano wrote:
Yeah, but how many can fit on my surface. I'm not (quite) that large that 10 giga can fit on me. So I should have a little blood left over. Maybe just enough for the gators.


Gators are not attracted to blood but strictly by motion. You do know that gators do not eat fresh kill ... right? What a gator will do is grab you, pull you under the water and drown you. Then he will stuff you under a ledge or tree roots underwater to tenderize you before he starts dinning on ya! :roll:
quote=Sunrisepano Yeah, but how many can fit on m... (show quote)


So, if I lay (lie?) really still, I don't need to worry about the gators and I can get a great tan (sunburn). :mrgreen:

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Apr 2, 2012 06:34:29   #
crimesc324 Loc: West Palm Beach, Florida
 
I go to shark valley in the everglades. Has a 15 mile paved loop road thru the park and an observation tower 1/2 way down. You can ride your bike or take a narrated trolley tour. Plenty of birds and gators. Especially on colder days when the gators crawl up on the asphalt to bask in the sun.

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Apr 2, 2012 06:43:05   #
Erv Loc: Medina Ohio
 
Now that sounds like a plan. Go on a cold day on your bike. You will get some good closeups! :D How fast can a Gator run? ;)
Erv


crimesc324 wrote:
I go to shark valley in the everglades. Has a 15 mile paved loop road thru the park and an observation tower 1/2 way down. You can ride your bike or take a narrated trolley tour. Plenty of birds and gators. Especially on colder days when the gators crawl up on the asphalt to bask in the sun.

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Apr 2, 2012 08:27:35   #
madcapmagishion
 
Erv wrote:
:D How fast can a Gator run? ;)
Erv


In a straight line faster than just about anyone, except maybe Usain Bolt :mrgreen: But then again you don't have to run faster than the gator ... you just have to run faster than whomever your with. :thumbup:

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Apr 2, 2012 08:55:11   #
pdwoodswood Loc: Lewisville, NC
 
Bmac wrote:
I think this guy/gal is trolling yet everyone keeps babbling about the Everglades, hasn't anyone, besides a couple, read what's been said by the OP? 8-)


Absolutely trolling...........

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Apr 2, 2012 08:57:01   #
Jerry Green Loc: Huntsville, AL
 
Check out the Everglades outings @ http://www.wildphotoadventures.com/watchshow.html

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