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Sep 29, 2014 08:38:20   #
And this is one of many reasons I don't do weddings. Sorry you're dealing with this BS
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Sep 27, 2014 18:41:47   #
Bill Houghton wrote:
Annie, nice to see you back.


Thank you. I've been taking it easy, nice to see the forum hasn't changed much, lol
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Sep 27, 2014 18:39:50   #
ArtzDarkroom wrote:
Annie,

You are a hired hand. You forget your place. It is not YOUR day.


People hire me because they have seen my work and they want the same vision for their walls. Some of my clients actually save for a year or more to afford to hire me. Sorry but when it comes to my work and my vision I do call the shots.

If I am on location and someone takes out their camera, I put mine away. If a client thinks or feels that any Tom, Dick or Henry with a camera can create a top quality image then they are NOT the client for me.
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Sep 27, 2014 14:23:48   #
rehess wrote:
I'm not sure that we are actually talking about the same thing here. Frankly, I am bored by posed pictures .... they are the things in wedding albums that I have to nod and say nice things about while wondering how long this will go on; however, if you are enough of a presence, I may take a picture of you taking or posing a picture, because you have become a major aspect of the wedding. I almost never take posed pictures myself ... when I point a camera at someone and they start to pose, I ask them to return to normal behavior. Just now, I looked through 11 folders of pictures from weddings I've attended; I found 8 pictures taken during the actual ceremony (most showing the back of the head of some person ahead of me, because I remain seated and I don't use flash in church) and 0 posed pictures. I found roughly 11 pictures of reception lines, always with the person greeting the bridal couple partially blocking my view of them. I have several pictures of couples running through a shower of rice or birdseed. I have a few pictures of couples cutting the cake; I assume those weren't posed, because if they don't already know how to cut a cake, then their life together could have all kinds of issues ahead ... and besides this is a time when some will engage in unplanned (except possibly by them) horseplay. Most of the pictures, though, are of people having fun at the reception, with or without the bridal couple (sometimes the bridal couple misses the fun part because they're posing endlessly for The Pro).

More importantly, you can put whatever clause you want in a contract, but these days actually enforcing it will be hopeless. Recently, my twenty-something daughter spent the day driving my eighty-something mother around town to run errands. Every so often my cell phone would tell me that I had a message from her - it would be a picture of my mother at the current errand - so we had a running account of her day. When I told her that most banks don't allow photography (one picture was my mother standing in line at the credit union), she shrugged her shoulders and said that she'd just been checking her phone and a picture happened. That is the way most people her age act. She may take more pictures in a day than I take in a month. There is a reason why Apple at one time was advertising something like "people take more pictures with an iPhone than with cameras from any other camera company" (I guess that title may have passed to Samsung now). Maybe some of these will try to "horn in on" your posed pictures, but I kind of doubt it. Most of the time they will be taking their own unposed pictures which may or may not have anything to do with the pictures you're so carefully planning. But they will happen.
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If during a session a client or someone with them whips out a camera or their cell phone and tries to take a picture, I simply turn and ask them to leave (it's my studio) or if we are on location I just start packing up my equipment. That's one of the great things about being a professional who works for myself, I get to call the shots. :)

Before I start a session, we go over the no camera or cell phone rule as well as some other clauses I have as well as copyright rules. I also go over the copyright rules during our ordering session and when I deliver the final prints. :)
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Sep 27, 2014 14:15:23   #
oh... there is just way to much editing done to this, it looks like you tried to save an image but went way to far.
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Sep 27, 2014 12:21:56   #
and this is why it's important to have a "no other camera" clause in your wedding photography contract for the ceremony and the formal photography.

https://www.google.com/search?q=uncle+bob+wedding+photos&biw=1536&bih=709&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=h-MmVMa4EY2AygTdmYHQDQ&sqi=2&ved=0CC8QsAQ

I don't do weddings, but I still have the "no other camera" clause in my contract, it's tacky and rude to show up for your portrait session and have a friend or family member taking photos of my set-ups, poses and ideas.

I am sadden, yet not surprised, to see the replies here regarding photographers, even more sickened to see a fellow photographer show how he values wedding photography by posting that he is looking for a photographer for his wedding but what the images and the work for FREE. SMH As photographers (professional or not) we should now the value and work that goes into creating wonderful and beautiful images and the memories that are captured, to post on a photography forum that you are looking for people to capture one of the most important events in your life for free is sad.
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May 17, 2014 16:42:23   #
dooragdragon wrote:
Flicker is free, but they also have the flicker pro which cost 24.95 a year.
Pete


Flickr PRO no longer exists, everyone get's 1TB of storage for free, there is the option to pay $49.95 a year for an ad free flickr, but honestly I don't recall seeing an ad on flickr so I don't think paying the $50 yearly fee is worth it.
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May 8, 2014 17:28:02   #
Whatever you do, make sure the person you are handing your money over too knows what they are teaching and are not out to make some quick money.

I have noticed since the industry is saturated with photographers (new and experienced) the workshop route seems to be the way many are trying to make money now. Unfortunately some of these workshops hosts no business teaching anything let alone charging for it, much like the influx of fauxtogs now we have fauxshops selling the “learn to be shoot like a pro” dream and BS.
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May 7, 2014 19:13:42   #
OddJobber wrote:
For me deposit is a big consideration. My local pro store, 8 miles away has reasonable rates, but their deposit policy is, "A deposit equal to the estimated replacement cost of the Equipment is required for customers without an established credit account, or as Pro Photo Supply otherwise requires." So... I can rent a Nikon 70-200mm f/2.8 AF-S VR II for 30 bucks a day, but I need to have $2400 ready cash for deposit. :roll: :shock:


Borrowlenses and other larger online rental companies do not require deposits. :-)
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May 7, 2014 15:55:59   #
depends on the workshop and the workshop leader, I attend between 2 to 3 workshops a year (some online, some in person), I research each one and actually email past workshop attendess to get feedback. They can get really costly, really fast. Especially the weekend retreat ones.
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May 7, 2014 15:52:57   #
what kind of pictures?

not to burst your bubble but if it's landscape, flowers etc there are a million other photographers out there doing the same thing, to make it worth while you are going to have to invest a nice little sum of money to actually make money. You need to figure out how to drive strangers to your site and make them want to actually purchase something from you rather than the other millions of photographers out there selling the same thing.
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May 7, 2014 12:57:55   #
dancing2flower wrote:
Thanks Annie Girl. Yes I could include a dance weekend and enough time for personal study--or plan for a month when dances are back-to-back. While thinking about it can one rent flash? I don't think my 430 is enough; not sure want to spend on the 600.


You can rent pretty much anything you can think of from the big photography rental companies. I have rented Ice Lights, extra lights and light stands, and underwater housings.
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May 7, 2014 12:38:53   #
You can rent lenses from 3 days too a month+ it all depends on your need and your budget.

I typically rent for 10 days with delivery mid week, that gives me two weekends to test out and around 5 to 6 sessions. That usually is enough time to test a lens and see if it will work with my style of shooting.
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May 5, 2014 22:44:34   #
I use borrowlenses.com, I like to test drive before I purchase so this works for me. I thought I wanted a lensbaby, rented one and while fun for a day it really doesn't work for my style so I sent it back. Rented the 70-200 and realized I still love my primes, so I tried the 200 and the 135 purchased them and have never been happier.
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May 1, 2014 22:04:09   #
bdk wrote:
I didn't say poor mans copyright was legal, just that they do it all the time. The copyright office says it is NOT a substitute for being registered. It is proof of a date the song was written as you can't tag a song as u can a photo. I dont quite understand, you register every photo you take ? Or is it you have your company name registered? In the 70's I ran a small business
and we copyrighted all the directions to our products.
With my photos ending up online, I think for me its a good idea to at least mark them .
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I register every image of mine I post online or think I will post online every 3 months (webpage, blog, facebook or forums).
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