Has anyone tried the Pocket Light Meter app for iPhone/iPod/iPad? I've been playing with it on my iPhone and it seems to be pretty accurate. It's free, so can't beat the price!

Why? I've bought an old Nikon AI-S 200mm f/4 lens on eBay that only works in manual exposure mode on my cameras. Anyway, I'm having fun with it and my iPhone light meter!

I still remember when my dad used to take slide film pictures with an old Vivitar 35mm and use a hand-held light meter. Then when our relatives would visit, he'd get out the slide projector and do a slide show. Times have changed!

the point I was trying to make is that if you eliminate morality from a discussion of whether pornography is art is impossible.

I agree, but that has nothing to do with technology. That's about money. I suppose I should not have used the 5D in my statement. If Ansel Adams were 14 today and someone gave him a kodak P&S digicam, he'd still be Ansel Adams. But if he were born to a poor family and the only way for him to be great was to have a medium format camera and his own darkroom, guess what? He'd be working at Wendys and the world would miss out. That's why technology is good. It's the only thing that even begins to equalize masses with the wealthy.

"It ain't the arrow, it's the Injin - Lee Travino"

A photo friend just posted that comment, under our group where it says, "What kind of camera do you own?"
I like it a lot, and think how eloquently simple it is.

I started out in photography with film cameras just when they were getting "Through The Lens Metering" and bayonet mount lenses. They were not automatic, you had to decide what aperture and shutter speed to use with every shot. The "ASA" now "ISO" was not much of a matter of choice. There was no Auto focus. I'm so thankful I entered photography at that point. It gave me the understanding of those integral relationships.

The more lenses I got, the more decisions there were about which to use. I bought some Medium Format cameras Mamiya M645 & RB-67... ( someone's dream camera... It now sits idle in a case over by the door.)

At some point I quit taking pictures until I got my first Digital camera a Sony Mavica FD-73 in 1999. It used 3 1/2" floppy discs for its "Film". That camera awakened my creativity like never had before. Only one lens, with a 35mm equivalent of 40 to 400mm with a 10x optical zoom lens. I had so much fun with it, and my creativity with it was amazing.

4 years ago. I bought another much more modern digital camera (P&S) with adjustable aperture and shutter speed. It was fun.

Now I have 2, 2007 model Canon 40D's and an ever expanding lens collection.

I take pictures for my enjoyment (like I always have), and keep trying to make myself happier with my images. But from my very first camera, to the one I might have 5 from now, they are the tools I use to capture the images with. The pictures are a product of my creativity, my artistic imagination (or lack there of), and the equipment I use. Some of my new lens, give me images I could only dream about in the past

But in the end...
"It ain't the arrow, it's the Injin - Lee Travino"

I suppose, if you're young enough, you cannot remember when a roll of film had twenty or thirty-six shots. It forced the photographer to be judicious about the shots taken. In fact, one very important exercise, which taught dicipline, was to take one... and only one... image. It's a great way to become careful and to look for that picture. While backpacking, I couldn't carry a ton of film. Besides, I couldn't afford the processing... and thus, I learned how to develop and process my own images. There were many images that I did not capture. They only exist in my mind. It's a pity that I can't figure out how to get them from my memory to paper.

But I believe that digital photography offers the option to squeeze that shutter button more often. Fewer opportunities are lost. More mistakes can be economically made, and better understanding of how we paint with light is encouraged. If we are lucky, we even have more of our own experiences to share with others. Bravo technology! And to all, I say keep taking photographs. The more the better.

I won't say much as I've learned my lesson on just mentioning the word Re...............an word. I just know I'm fed up with our government and our citizens fighting each other to gain control of "their" agenda.

Gone are the days when one party gave way to a winning opponent and immediately the country get behind their duly elected official. Now the plot to cause our ruling leader to fail starts on his first day in office.

I fear for the role the United States will play in the world if we can't get our act together soon. Every great civilization in history fell because of internal corruption. Is that our fate?