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Nov 17, 2022 15:40:29   #
At my age, stabilization is my primary, and perhaps sole, reason to consider the XT5.
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Nov 17, 2022 13:10:19   #
I have an XT3 and am seriously considering the XT5 for stabilization and improved focusing.
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Nov 17, 2022 13:02:35   #
I have an XT3 and am seriously considering the XT5 for stabilization and improved focusing.
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Nov 14, 2022 10:22:35   #
66 seems young to this 75-year-old!
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Nov 13, 2022 22:16:07   #
Everyone has been so helpful with your advice and recommendations. I am so appreciative. My next computer will definitely have more RAM. Thank you.
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Nov 13, 2022 19:50:21   #
TriX wrote:
Maybe a new post processing ap might address your issue. I just checked Capture One. With nothing open, it occupies 0.7GB on my Windows machine, and only 1.2GB with 10 images open. No idea if the Mac version is similar, but unless you’re wedded to your existing Ap, maybe download a trial copy of it and a couple of others such as PS and see if they’re as memory hungry as what you’re using.


Thanks for the suggestion. I am very fond of ON1 and don’t want to make a change.

The delay in loading photos is annoying, but I have been editing photos. I can live with this annoyance temporarily while I think about a new computer.
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Nov 13, 2022 19:08:32   #
Your XT4 is attractively priced, but I’m still considering the XT5. I can’t make a decision currently. If it doesn’t sell, I may be back at you later.
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Nov 13, 2022 12:10:35   #
Is camera body still available?
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Nov 12, 2022 12:55:50   #
Jack 13088 wrote:
The most gentle response to all of this discussion is to get a new computer store. You mentioned Adobe but I couldn’t find any other software vendor that recommends less than 16+GB of RAM for photo editing.

In the infinite scheme of things the performance of Operating Systems differ very little. Likewise, processor architecture is not currently a large factor. Perhaps the Apple M-1 architecture may prove superior but needs software that takes advantage of it. And by the way doesn’t and won’t utilize RAM differently that is an application issue.

More RAM is the least expense performance improver. Laptops are not the route to performance with photo software. Size is a problem that you have encountered but performance eventually costs higher power consumption. Faster CPU processors, faster RAM and powerful GPUs have a large effect on performance.

One of the quotes I saw was 8GB is fine for browsers and office software but not photo editing. Perhaps the new observation may be “It’s the RAM, stupid!”
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I'm coming around to your way of thinking. I wonder if I should purchase a desktop computer?
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Nov 12, 2022 12:21:04   #
Settlit wrote:
At the risk of suggesting the obvious, I’d recommend taking your computer to your local Apple store for a checkup. My personal experience is that an in-person visit results in infinitely more help than an online chat with Apple.


That will be my next step. I am better prepared for the Genius Bar because of the help I have received from you guys. Thanks to all.
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Nov 12, 2022 12:02:53   #
TriX wrote:
Which anti-virus program?


Trend Micro
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Nov 12, 2022 12:02:09   #
TriX wrote:
Then they should take it in trade for the 16GB model and give you the full selling price as credit on the new machine. May be hard for them to swallow, but in my business if our SE had recommended a particular configuration that turned out to be inadequate, that’s what we (and any reputable computer manufacturer) would have done. Real computer companies are regularly asked to recommend # of cores, memory and I/O for a customer and are expected to stand behind those recommendations.

Also, you’ve just encountered first hand the limitation of Apple’s non-upgradable philosophy on its new machines and their marketing campaigns touting that you would be fine with half the amount of memory that would have been required in PCs.
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I am definitely in the process of learning a lesson. Unfortunately I can't take my computer back to the company I purchased the computer from. The company is no longer in business.
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Nov 12, 2022 11:57:58   #
David Martin wrote:
lwerthe1mer, I'm not doubting you, but have you confirmed the memory usage with the Activity Monitor app on your MacBook Pro? I have the 2022 version of ON1 which seems to use no more than 2.5GB during editing, and often less. I would be surprised if the 2023 version was such a memory hog, although it's certainly possible.


I have located my Activity Monitor. It shows I have 8.00 GB of memory and am currently using 6.98 GB. ON1 Photo RAW 2023 uses 3.31 GB, and all other usages are in MB rather than GB. The other users of memory are:

my antivirus program -- 651.0 MB
something I am unfamiliar with, called "WindowServer" -- 395.5 MB
Creative Cloud UI Helper (Renderer) -- 317.0 MB
Safari-reader://mail.google.com -- 189.5 MB
Ugly Hedgehog --129.0 MB
Remember (files my passwords) -- 121.9 MB
https://www.on1.com 00 119.3 MB
Finder -- 118.7 MBGoogle Chrome -- 1098.1 MB
Remembear Helper -- 93.9 MB
Safari -- 88.6 MB

There are a few more, but this should supply enough information on my RAM. I was incorrect in stating that ON1 uses 7 out of 8 GB. Other items comprise the majority of the use of my RAM.

Can I move any of the above items out of my RAM and perhaps onto my external hard drive? Any other suggestions?
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Nov 12, 2022 10:55:42   #
David Martin wrote:
lwerthe1mer, I'm not doubting you, but have you confirmed the memory usage with the Activity Monitor app on your MacBook Pro? I have the 2022 version of ON1 which seems to use no more than 2.5GB during editing, and often less. I would be surprised if the 2023 version was such a memory hog, although it's certainly possible.


Apple Support directed me to the Activity Monitor App, and it showed 7 GB being used. All for ON1? I don't know. I was also told that I had lots of "artifacts from web surfing that need to be removed.
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Nov 12, 2022 10:29:01   #
TriX wrote:
Despite the fact that Apple advertises that DRAM is used differently, the size of an application is the size of the application and it takes as much DRAM as it takes, regardless how the OS may be optimized , unless it was specifically written differently to be more compact for a particular OS. Having said that and also being unfamiliar with this application, 7GB sounds like a huge amount of memory usage for a single Ap. I would look to see what other aps are running simultaneously and their memory usage. Apple products are so easy to restore, that scrubbing the machine and reloading everything might be a good idea. It’s not unusual for “free” aps to be bundled with others that are already running in the background. One day I noticed my CPU utilization was over 50% for one Ap (which I hadn’t loaded and didn’t recognize) running in the background). Turns out Oracle, in a SW update, had embedded a very difficult Ap to remove that was using my machine to distribute updates to other customers.
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When I edit photos, I close all other applications. I appreciate your advice and will check it out on my computer.
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