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Nov 4, 2022 00:25:14   #
Dragonophile
 
I enjoy my X-T3 and X-T4 but the newest version - the X-T5 - holds little appeal to me at this point. I don't think I need or want a 40mp sensor. Now, I understand many people might find that highly desirable. So be it. But I take many pictures and the extra storage costs do not seem worth it to me. And I see no reason to buy it and lower the pixel count.

What am I missing? I get that more pixels can equal superior IQ but I will be interested in reading reviews to see how people rate IQ between the T4 and T5. If the difference in IQ is noticeable to the eye on standard prints, I might change my mind. But if it is only noticeable if I were printing posters or billboards, then no thanks.

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Nov 4, 2022 01:36:45   #
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Dragonophile wrote:
I enjoy my X-T3 and X-T4 but the newest version - the X-T5 - holds little appeal to me at this point. I don't think I need or want a 40mp sensor. Now, I understand many people might find that highly desirable. So be it. But I take many pictures and the extra storage costs do not seem worth it to me. And I see no reason to buy it and lower the pixel count.

What am I missing? I get that more pixels can equal superior IQ but I will be interested in reading reviews to see how people rate IQ between the T4 and T5. If the difference in IQ is noticeable to the eye on standard prints, I might change my mind. But if it is only noticeable if I were printing posters or billboards, then no thanks.
I enjoy my X-T3 and X-T4 but the newest version - ... (show quote)

Posters and billboards need far *fewer* MP so that item is a red herring. Other than that, your approach to an upgrade sounds 100% on the money.

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Nov 4, 2022 05:44:56   #
dpullum Loc: Tampa Florida
 
In the beginning of the great pixel race it was pointed out that the smaller the individual pixels get the smear/bloom from one to the next gets greater.
https://www.adimec.com/ccd-versus-cmos-blooming-and-smear-performance/
https://www.blurbiness.com/web/en/blog/megapixel-myth-more-megapixels-does-not-mean-better-quality-photos

Beyond MP increase there are other improvements which may be an advantage if needed:
https://www.photographyblog.com/articles/fujifilm_x_t5_vs_x_t4_head_to_head_comparison

Ignoring these comments... we print or project or TV display our photos. If printed, the printers are just so so good and may not display the MP difference... if they do can our eye perceive the difference. Old study on super audio cables, electronically no difference, audio no difference... unless the group was told that A is good cable and B is a super cable costing 10x the price. On a TV, the T-3,4, and 5 images are limited by the TV.

Consider the MP race is not needed and an old Fuji with 3 MP may be fine. If taken at high shutter speed then all the stabilizer features are not needed, even dynamic range differences can be software compensated.
In a recent study I did images from my historically wonderful, expensive, Kodak DC4800 3.1 MP were cleaned, sharpened, and MP enhanced by the Topaz AI Trio, De-noise AI, Sharpen AI, and Gigapixel AI. Once the magic has been performed, a huge photo print of quality is possible from a humble 3 MP beginning!!
https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-753293-1.html

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Nov 4, 2022 06:33:05   #
camerapapi Loc: Miami, Fl.
 
Few amateurs need so many pixels. Not all professionals need so many pixels.

Some of the old cameras, the Nikon D200 comes to mind, only had 10 megapixels and instead it was very capable of beautiful enlargements. Its CCD sensor revealed some of the most beautiful colors I have seen in Nikon cameras, first generation colors.
I once took a workshop in landscape photography in West Virginia. The guide had a D800 that sports 36 megapixels. I was shooting with my D7000 that has 17 megapixels and when comparing in the monitor the images it was very difficult for me to see the differences when cropping to 50% of the original size between both cameras.

In my case I never enlarge beyond 12x13 so having so many pixels is overkill and you are right, you will need a computer with most probably triple the memory you have now to handle the extra pixels.

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Nov 4, 2022 06:53:47   #
ELNikkor
 
I rarely even use the 25mp my D750 affords. Just for fun, once I shot a RAW image and put the file into Topaz Gigapixel at max res enhancement. It took awhile, but the final output had that one image at 3.2 gigabytes! So, if I ever do want more than 25mp, I might go up 2x with Topaz and get around 50mp, rather than look for a whole new camera.

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Nov 4, 2022 08:33:23   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
The pixel race will continue, no matter the current number.

Must...
have...
more...
pixels...

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Nov 4, 2022 09:36:26   #
Mac Loc: Pittsburgh, Philadelphia now Hernando Co. Fl.
 
Dragonophile wrote:
I enjoy my X-T3 and X-T4 but the newest version - the X-T5 - holds little appeal to me at this point. I don't think I need or want a 40mp sensor. Now, I understand many people might find that highly desirable. So be it. But I take many pictures and the extra storage costs do not seem worth it to me. And I see no reason to buy it and lower the pixel count.

What am I missing? I get that more pixels can equal superior IQ but I will be interested in reading reviews to see how people rate IQ between the T4 and T5. If the difference in IQ is noticeable to the eye on standard prints, I might change my mind. But if it is only noticeable if I were printing posters or billboards, then no thanks.
I enjoy my X-T3 and X-T4 but the newest version - ... (show quote)


I can’t speak to Fujifilm cameras, and I am no expert on pixel technology, but my 16mp Nikon Df takes wonderful, sharp, clear pictures.

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Nov 4, 2022 09:38:57   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
Mac wrote:
I can’t speak to Fujifilm cameras, and I am no expert on pixel technology, but my 16mp Nikon Df takes wonderful, sharp, clear pictures.

Amazing how some cameras work well for some people, eh?

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Nov 4, 2022 10:13:10   #
Mac Loc: Pittsburgh, Philadelphia now Hernando Co. Fl.
 
Longshadow wrote:
Amazing how some cameras work well for some people, eh?


Cameras work the same way for everyone. At one time more pixels really was better, but now it’s just a selling point. Like phones—buy this phone because it has a better camera than that phone. With cameras it’s buy this camera because it has more pixels than that camera. The camera companies need to do that to survive. Most cameras, regardless of brand, are so good that if people were happy with what they had and stopped buying cameras the companies would go out of business. To stay in business the companies need to make us think we want or need more.

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Nov 4, 2022 10:31:46   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
Mac wrote:
Cameras work the same way for everyone. At one time more pixels really was better, but now it’s just a selling point. Like phones—buy this phone because it has a better camera than that phone. With cameras it’s buy this camera because it has more pixels than that camera. The camera companies need to do that to survive. Most cameras, regardless of brand, are so good that if people were happy with what they had and stopped buying cameras the companies would go out of business. To stay in business the companies need to make us think we want or need more.
Cameras work the same way for everyone. At one tim... (show quote)

Then there are those of us who are still using cameras from 2006 and 2010.
More is always nice, but not everyone needs to run right out and get a higher MP camera because it exists.

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Nov 4, 2022 11:05:37   #
Mac Loc: Pittsburgh, Philadelphia now Hernando Co. Fl.
 
Longshadow wrote:
Then there are those of us who are still using cameras from 2006 and 2010.
More is always nice, but not everyone needs to run right out and get a higher MP camera because it exists.


Exactly!!!

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Nov 4, 2022 12:02:39   #
mwsilvers Loc: Central New Jersey
 
Dragonophile wrote:
I enjoy my X-T3 and X-T4 but the newest version - the X-T5 - holds little appeal to me at this point. I don't think I need or want a 40mp sensor. Now, I understand many people might find that highly desirable. So be it. But I take many pictures and the extra storage costs do not seem worth it to me. And I see no reason to buy it and lower the pixel count.

What am I missing? I get that more pixels can equal superior IQ but I will be interested in reading reviews to see how people rate IQ between the T4 and T5. If the difference in IQ is noticeable to the eye on standard prints, I might change my mind. But if it is only noticeable if I were printing posters or billboards, then no thanks.
I enjoy my X-T3 and X-T4 but the newest version - ... (show quote)

A 40MP sensor may have value when capturing fine detail for very heavily cropped images. Beyond that I personally don't require one at this time. However, I reserve the right to change my mind at some point in the future.

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Nov 4, 2022 12:38:55   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
mwsilvers wrote:
A 40MP sensor may have value when capturing fine detail for very heavily cropped images. Beyond that I personally don't require one at this time. However, I reserve the right to change my mind at some point in the future.


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Nov 4, 2022 22:58:08   #
RonDavis Loc: Chicago, IL
 
Dragonophile wrote:
I enjoy my X-T3 and X-T4 but the newest version - the X-T5 - holds little appeal to me at this point. I don't think I need or want a 40mp sensor. Now, I understand many people might find that highly desirable. So be it. But I take many pictures and the extra storage costs do not seem worth it to me. And I see no reason to buy it and lower the pixel count.

What am I missing? I get that more pixels can equal superior IQ but I will be interested in reading reviews to see how people rate IQ between the T4 and T5. If the difference in IQ is noticeable to the eye on standard prints, I might change my mind. But if it is only noticeable if I were printing posters or billboards, then no thanks.
I enjoy my X-T3 and X-T4 but the newest version - ... (show quote)


Right, I'm still enjoying my X-T2....and loving it!

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Nov 5, 2022 06:17:24   #
ejrmaine Loc: South Carolina
 
Well, I'm upgrading my X-T3 and buying the X-T5, but not for the 40MP. Rather, for the AI focus and the extended battery life. To each his own.

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