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Oct 15, 2014 07:52:52   #
elf wrote:
For sure I will use flash. What does that have to do with the sharpness of the lens? Ed


If you do not use a flash in that environment, you will need to increase ISO and slow down your shutter speed to capture enough light for a useable shot. That will affect sharpness. Using a flash you can have a much faster shutter speed, freeze the action and reduce blur caused by vibration.
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Oct 15, 2014 07:47:43   #
SonnyE wrote:
I would only be concerned about a drug dealer or a gangsta wanting to retaliate... :hunf:


SonnyE wrote:
Ann Arbor is a long way from Central Park.
I'd say go for the competition, and include my wishes for good luck Nate! :thumbup:


I hear that Ann Arbor drug dealers and gangstas are much more laid back and don't care about pictures. In fact they might just appear at the showing, if the hors d'oeuvres and wine are of sufficient quality. :wink:
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Oct 15, 2014 07:43:45   #
Rongnongno wrote:
You see it, there is a reflection. Simple as that.

A black hole, as described (box or honeycomb) trap the light. There you see nothing, even if you use a strong light on it.

You can do a simple test.

Paint something black, matte. Pierce a hole in it. That a picture.

The hole is black, the surface is really not.


Amazing that your rather simple and straight forward question caused so much confusion. :roll:
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Oct 13, 2014 22:49:01   #
davidrb wrote:
Isn't the term "black reflector" an oxymoron?


It is a term-of-art for the black that often comes with a reflector kit.
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Oct 9, 2014 14:21:49   #
What time of day were you shooting. Is the sun in line with your camera or is it above or below windows when you shoot?
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Oct 9, 2014 14:19:59   #
lamiaceae wrote:
I did? ...

People reading too much between the lines.


But that is where all the good stuff is!
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Oct 9, 2014 14:01:53   #
Rongnongno wrote:
How many use those?


I have one reflector kit with a black element, but have not had any use for it so far.

GOBOs, if you are interested, I make from aluminum pie pans (if I want to fit them in a gel frame) or from any other material if they will be further from the light source.
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Oct 9, 2014 13:19:45   #
I would say go for it. If B&W Magazine has a concern, they will let you know.
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Oct 9, 2014 13:16:55   #
Capture48 wrote:
It's true I swear I read it on the internet, they can't put anything there that isn't true!


The links I provided showed actual items actually for sale. A GOBO and a Black Reflector are different items. PERIOD.

If you cannot (or will not) get your small mind around that simple fact, there is little hope for you.

I will ignore any further comments in this thread from you, since it is distracting from the OP’s question about a black reflector.
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Oct 9, 2014 13:10:42   #
Cdouthitt wrote:
They have their limitations (and I just pushed mine this weekend by shooting a wedding solely with 2 mirrorless cameras), but they are just as capable as a regular dslr. You just have to know what the heck you are doing. I was shooting side by side with a 5d3 and holding my own. With my em1 my real usable ISO limit is 6400. No way would I wanted to lug that canon around all day. There is a bit of a learning curve, as it's a slightly different way of shooting.


Is it different enough to justify a seperate forum?
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Oct 9, 2014 13:07:07   #
By the look of the bags, you took your plastic!!!!

Congrats.
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Oct 9, 2014 13:03:55   #
Simple answer:

NO!
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Oct 9, 2014 13:02:29   #
Capture48 wrote:
This is very funny, in your universe black reflects light.... now I see. You read this on the internet so it must be true.....I know it's a tough concept for some to grasp


There is a difference between what may seem logical to you and a thing that is a term-of-art. A black reflector is a term-of-art. Get over it.

If you had done a simple search on the two items you would have known they were different and could have saved yourself this embarrassment.


I only added the links as you asked for proof.
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Oct 9, 2014 12:57:08   #
lwiley wrote:
After 41 years of marriage I have just two words for her, "Yes dear."


It took 41 years to learn that?

My wife just had it written into the vows, so I would not be confused later.
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Oct 9, 2014 12:53:42   #
Capture48 wrote:
The Phlearn video explained exactly what I said it was. GOBO is be definition anything that go between. Since black does not reflect light, rather it absorbs it, a black reflector is oxymoronic.


OK, Since you obviously do not know what you are talking about, I will explain. A black reflector is usually (but not always) part of a kit, like a reflector kit with several different materials to put on the frame. One of those colors can (and often is) black. This is why it is referred to as a reflector, because it is part of a reflector kit. (hope I am not going too fast for you) The black reflector is used to reduce bounced light and is NOT put between the light source and the subject, but elsewhere to reduce bounced light.

See a 5-in-1 kit here:
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1016047-REG/raya_cr_51_32_5_in_1_collapsible_reflector_disc.html

A GOBO is put between the source and the subject to create an effect. Here you can find a sample of a GOBO used to cast an image of roses:

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/230696-REG/Rosco_250777630860_Steel_Gobo_77763.html/prm/alsVwDtl

Got it now?
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