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Oct 9, 2014 14:19:27   #
Lima Bean Loc: Finger Lakes NY
 
I'd like to give an Image of a Stained glass window to friend who is moving. The window is of her patron Saint. The window is about 6 feet high and 2 feet wide. It is on the south side of the Nave and in the afternoon this time of year so fully illuminated that it and its 12 companions generate colored shapes on the floor. A couple of trial shots out of hand last week show the face and hands somewhat over exposed mid tones relatively accurate and dark colors too dark. The center of the window is about 4 feet above my head, I'm 5'11''.
I can get a clear shot across the nave which is about 50ft.

I using and older DX "D60" I have two zooms 18-55mm 3.5-5.6G, 55-200 4.5-5.6G both DX. I have permission to bring in a tripod but no ladders. I'm soliciting suggestions for set up of camera, aiming point, white balance and any thing else you can think of that will improve shape and color fidelity.

Lima Bean

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Oct 9, 2014 14:21:49   #
dsmeltz Loc: Philadelphia
 
What time of day were you shooting. Is the sun in line with your camera or is it above or below windows when you shoot?

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Oct 9, 2014 14:23:55   #
dirtpusher Loc: tulsa oklahoma
 
http://www.ephotozine.com/article/tips-on-photographing-stained-glass-windows-15903

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Oct 9, 2014 14:27:59   #
Lima Bean Loc: Finger Lakes NY
 
dsmeltz wrote:
What time of day were you shooting. Is the sun in line with your camera or is it above or below windows when you shoot?


I can get in about two PM sun would be above and slightly right of the window. Nave has some additional light from windows about 20feet higher and over the center 1/2 of the Nave.

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Oct 9, 2014 14:28:18   #
tradio Loc: Oxford, Ohio
 
What about shooting at night and using a flash on the outside to evenly back light the glass?

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Oct 9, 2014 14:29:08   #
Lima Bean Loc: Finger Lakes NY
 
dirtpusher wrote:
http://www.ephotozine.com/article/tips-on-photographing-stained-glass-windows-15903


Thank you

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Oct 9, 2014 14:30:20   #
Lima Bean Loc: Finger Lakes NY
 
tradio wrote:
What about shooting at night and using a flash on the outside to evenly back light the glass?


Not a neighborhood one would go to at night.

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Oct 9, 2014 15:13:00   #
amehta Loc: Boston
 
Lima Bean wrote:
I'd like to give an Image of a Stained glass window to friend who is moving. The window is of her patron Saint. The window is about 6 feet high and 2 feet wide. It is on the south side of the Nave and in the afternoon this time of year so fully illuminated that it and its 12 companions generate colored shapes on the floor. A couple of trial shots out of hand last week show the face and hands somewhat over exposed mid tones relatively accurate and dark colors too dark. The center of the window is about 4 feet above my head, I'm 5'11''.
I can get a clear shot across the nave which is about 50ft.

I using and older DX "D60" I have two zooms 18-55mm 3.5-5.6G, 55-200 4.5-5.6G both DX. I have permission to bring in a tripod but no ladders. I'm soliciting suggestions for set up of camera, aiming point, white balance and any thing else you can think of that will improve shape and color fidelity.

Lima Bean
I'd like to give an Image of a Stained glass windo... (show quote)

If you do not shoot in raw, try raw+jpeg for this. If you do not know how to post process it to get the detail, you could create a topic in the post processing section and people are generally willing to help with an effort like this.

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Oct 9, 2014 15:51:43   #
Batman Loc: South-Central Texas
 
Lima Bean wrote:
Not a neighborhood one would go to at night.

Racist!

:roll:

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Oct 9, 2014 16:34:39   #
minniev Loc: MIssissippi
 
Lima Bean wrote:
I'd like to give an Image of a Stained glass window to friend who is moving. The window is of her patron Saint. The window is about 6 feet high and 2 feet wide. It is on the south side of the Nave and in the afternoon this time of year so fully illuminated that it and its 12 companions generate colored shapes on the floor. A couple of trial shots out of hand last week show the face and hands somewhat over exposed mid tones relatively accurate and dark colors too dark. The center of the window is about 4 feet above my head, I'm 5'11''.
I can get a clear shot across the nave which is about 50ft.

I using and older DX "D60" I have two zooms 18-55mm 3.5-5.6G, 55-200 4.5-5.6G both DX. I have permission to bring in a tripod but no ladders. I'm soliciting suggestions for set up of camera, aiming point, white balance and any thing else you can think of that will improve shape and color fidelity.

Lima Bean
I'd like to give an Image of a Stained glass windo... (show quote)


I'm no expert at this but I've attempted shooting stained glass from the ancient cathedrals of Belgium to the tiny country churches of the 1800's in my home state and everything I could find in between. I've got my better shots of stained glass daytime hours but when there is no direct sun coming through the glass, including days when it's slightly overcast but still somewhat bright. If they're tall windows get the tripod up as much as feasible to reduce the skew. (I have stood on pews when possible). I allow plenty of extra space so I can straighten the thing up in software rather than live with the natural tilt. Most old interior church lights work out OK because they're fairly soft and warm, but if its a modern sanctuary those bright recessed lights are trouble for me. I have never tried to use flash with them. I am a natural light shooter whenever possible.

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Oct 9, 2014 16:35:08   #
Lima Bean Loc: Finger Lakes NY
 
amehta wrote:
If you do not shoot in raw, try raw+jpeg for this. If you do not know how to post process it to get the detail, you could create a topic in the post processing section and people are generally willing to help with an effort like this.


Thank you, I generally am shooting out doors and do shoot Raw novice with post processing try hard to get it right the first time so I don't have to.

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Oct 9, 2014 16:44:08   #
Lima Bean Loc: Finger Lakes NY
 
Bow season for deer started here last week and gun season soon. The sound of fire arms harvesting meat for the freezer bothers me not at all but I do find the sound of gunfire as people harvest each other somewhat off putting.

Wind today 30mph with higher gusts temperature in the fifties Grandson and I just came in from poking holes in targets with arrows he is off this weekend to other GrandPa's farm to sit in a tree stand and scare some deer.

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Oct 9, 2014 16:57:26   #
Lima Bean Loc: Finger Lakes NY
 
minniev wrote:
I'm no expert at this but I've attempted shooting stained glass from the ancient cathedrals of Belgium to the tiny country churches of the 1800's in my home state and everything I could find in between. I've got my better shots of stained glass daytime hours but when there is no direct sun coming through the glass, including days when it's slightly overcast but still somewhat bright. If they're tall windows get the tripod up as much as feasible to reduce the skew. (I have stood on pews when possible). I allow plenty of extra space so I can straighten the thing up in software rather than live with the natural tilt. Most old interior church lights work out OK because they're fairly soft and warm, but if its a modern sanctuary those bright recessed lights are trouble for me. I have never tried to use flash with them. I am a natural light shooter whenever possible.
I'm no expert at this but I've attempted shooting ... (show quote)


This is an old urban church glass is from Austrian Empire colors only pop when lighted from outside. Normally there is no artificial lighting almost clear windows way up in above the center aisle provide plenty of light for getting around without washing out the light coming in the colored glass.

I though if I stood all the way across the Nave from the window and used the longest focal length that would allow me to frame window and some surrounding area I could minimize inverted keystone effect.

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Oct 9, 2014 17:09:07   #
minniev Loc: MIssissippi
 
Lima Bean wrote:
This is an old urban church glass is from Austrian Empire colors only pop when lighted from outside. Normally there is no artificial lighting almost clear windows way up in above the center aisle provide plenty of light for getting around without washing out the light coming in the colored glass.

I though if I stood all the way across the Nave from the window and used the longest focal length that would allow me to frame window and some surrounding area I could minimize inverted keystone effect.
This is an old urban church glass is from Austrian... (show quote)


A couple of thoughts: underexpose if necessary to keep from blowing the light through the glass. For at least some shots, still allow enough room to correct keystone if needed. You already know where you need to be to reduce effect. I've got some good shots early afternoon as long as the light isn't directly coming in the target window and there isn't too much interference from light coming in other windows to mess things up. It's tricky.

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Oct 9, 2014 20:15:09   #
Wahawk Loc: NE IA
 
Batman wrote:
Racist!

:roll:


Nothing was mentioned about "race" !! There are many areas, in many different cities that are NOT SAFE at night, and are frequented by the lawless whether they be black, white, brown, etc!!!

NOTHING racist in the original comment!!

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