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Nov 19, 2021 13:59:45   #
Rongnongno wrote:
Friend of mine. His D300 died.

Your friend has a good friend
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Nov 19, 2021 12:35:44   #
Rongnongno wrote:
Hey! I am giving away my D850!!!
I will not replace it, I have a D500.


Why are you giving it away?
Or did you mean you are going to stop using it in favor of your D500?
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Nov 19, 2021 09:58:10   #
SuperflyTNT wrote:
So you’re upset that a thread about gear has a lot of comments about gear. 🤔
There are plenty of comments not about gear. You’ve just chosen threads about gear to comment in. Usually about how superior you are with old gear over people with new gear. And nobody can validate your claims about great work because you used some funky system where your images are no longer available.


I'm not upset about anything. Selling a D850 system and all your F mount lenses because you think going a Z9 and Z lenses are going to somehow dramatically improve your photography? Errr...no. That's what people are doing. lol

I was going to start a thread on the transition of photography. I feel we are again at the very beginning of such a stage for the first time since film went digital.

It's being lead by kids in their 20's and younger. They are using very cheap cameras and relying on their skill and creativity. It's a generation that do their own thing. They don't care what others do or did in the past. They don't try and follow the current industry. It's a totally refreshing outlook from the gear driven, mechanical imagery of the past 20 years.

I won't make all the points I was going to make but imo, those of you who feel you need the latest and the greatest, you are already part of photography past.

It's been many years since I've looked at images that inspire me. Images that challenge me. Images that I can safely sit back and say, "I never would've thought of doing this."

These kids are producing them. Photography for me has never been so exciting. The least important aspect and in some ways a restriction of moving forward, is having the latest gear.
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Nov 19, 2021 00:49:50   #
I won't waste my time posting any new thread. I can see there will be no point.
Very gear driven and not photography driven here.
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Nov 18, 2021 20:14:41   #
cmc4214 wrote:
Unless you know this person, and have seen all of their photos, there is no way you can honestly make that statement.


Yes I can. My statement being relative to my own work and my own standard. Not in direct comparison to referenced individual's work or personal standard.

In other words, my argument being a better body doesn't necessarily mean "I" will produce better images than "I" did in the past with more keepers and top shelf images. I was meaning relative only to "my" own work. It's not comparing against the other person's work directly. Hope that makes sense?
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Nov 18, 2021 19:58:47   #
User ID wrote:
I’ve marked the calendar !


Great! lol
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Nov 18, 2021 18:47:19   #
cmc4214 wrote:
There would be no F5 either, probably still wet plate under a black curtain focusing up-side down images on ground glass


You're missing the point as well. The advances up to the F5 were beneficial.

As I said, I'll be posting a new thread over the weekend. Have a read.
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Nov 18, 2021 16:32:07   #
Canisdirus wrote:
But that missed set of keeper images you could have had with a better body...that's more than just your time.


You miss the point. I will always get more keeper images than you will and I will always get more top shelf images.

I'll add a new thread next day or so. By all means read it and add your opinion if you wish.
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Nov 18, 2021 12:55:47   #
Canisdirus wrote:
It's a completely different hobby today.

You might as well be chasing the best computers...same thing...it costs.

The old DSLR crowd is balking at the change...but balking won't change anything.


You’re talking to someone who built a brand new Win XP computer to add to
my other two Win XP computers.

Not updating has nothing to do with cost. Where is the challenge of using something like a Z9? All that someone has to do now is point it in the right direction. You don’t even have to time anything, the 120fps will capture the right moment for you. Another generation or so of cameras and you will even get arrows in the EVF telling you where to point the camera.

May the world have fun with all that and enjoy calling themselves skilled photographers. It’s not for me.
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Nov 18, 2021 07:22:43   #
Jerrin1 wrote:
Has it actually occured to you (and those with the same mentality), that there would never be any progress in any field, because you are happy to plod on with the same technology year afer year.


Exactly! There wouldn’t be any digital cameras, all my fav films and the Nikon F5 would still be in production.
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Nov 17, 2021 11:27:35   #
User ID wrote:
The full time LV cameras are not the opposition to the SLR. They are just the latest improvement to the SLR.


Like the automatic transmission was to the car. I still drive a manual/stick as well.
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Nov 17, 2021 05:04:56   #
CHG_CANON wrote:
Reasonable thought and question. But, remember the community membership being questioned. The average age is what? Retirement, post-retirement? The young and active can't sit around through a pot of coffee every morning arguing about filters, sensorsize, mirrorless, why Canon isn't the best brand for everyone, and spelling.


Very true.
Surely there must be someone here under 40???
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Nov 17, 2021 04:59:29   #
Delta49 wrote:
I just got off the phone with with Robert's Camera in Indianapolis and going to pick up the Tamron 15-30 2.8 G2 Tues. I can't wait and I have all of you to thank for talking me into getting it. !!


Congrats! Enjoy the lens. I didn't offer advice in this thread but I think you made a good decision.
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Nov 17, 2021 04:50:03   #
Rongnongno wrote:
I was reading an article titled: “Should you upgrade?”

My hackles rose immediately. My reaction was hell no!!! (less polite than in the title).

The article presented a mixed bag of yes/no, but really was pushing toward 'Yes'.

The two arguments toward a 'yes' are simple:
► The stuff does not work for any reason that cost more than the rice of a new item that is more performant
► The stuff is inadequate for a series of given situation.

Everything else is simple fallacious arguments that appeals only to folks who do not care about $$$ and those that care more about 'stuff' than anything else.
I was reading an article titled: “Should you upgra... (show quote)


You are my type of UHH member!

My last upgrade 2008.
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Nov 17, 2021 03:29:17   #
SuperflyTNT wrote:
Most of the people that have much of an investment in that old AF glass are the fossils from here that rail about the superiority of their DSLR’s and aren’t gonna go mirrorless anyway.


You're likely more fossil than me. The ones younger than me are going back even further than DSLR, to film!
The old men need the modern aids. The photographers need the challenge.

I have more AF-S lenses than D lenses btw.
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