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Jul 8, 2021 11:30:51   #
jerryc41 wrote:
Thanks for posting this, but any difference is too slight for me to make a decision. I have Topaz, and I'll stick with that.


Hi Jerryc41,

At this point I think they both do a fine job at least on this test. I tried to create a test having a range of detail, lots of noise, and high dynamic range (black to white). Attached is a photo I took with the same camera later in the day but with the ISO at 64. This provide a comparative base perhaps. I should have done it at the same time, but was rushed to get something else done. :-)

What is true is that using the lowest ISO you can and make the shot, less noise will be seen. From this test, of ISO 64 vs 3200, the two programs do a good job of mitigating the noise, but not to the level of quality of the ISO 64 image.


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Jul 8, 2021 10:48:17   #
Jimmy T wrote:
Thanks for the comparison.
The latest version of Topaz DeNoise that I have is v3.1.2.
Which version did you use?
Smile,
JimmyT Sends


Hi JimmyT,
I also used v3.1.2.
Thanks,
Doc Barry
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Jul 8, 2021 02:46:40   #
Recently I posted how DeNoise AI performed on a noisy photograph. The RX100 VII ISO was set to 3200 and the RAW images were worked on. The photo was tightly cropped.

I still have more to learn how to best use ON1 NoNoise AI, but I have found it a bit easier to use than DeNoise AI.

I suggest that you download these tiff files to make your conclusions. IMHO, both do a nice job and I don't see any differences of consequence.

original cropped

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cropped DeNoise AI

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cropped ON1 NoNoise

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Jun 26, 2021 13:47:57   #
TriX wrote:
Well as if Tesla automobiles, SpaceX rockets and Starlink Satellite Internet weren’t enough, Tesla is building “Dojo”, which may become the world’s fastest supercomputer (currently number 5): https://www.hpcwire.com/2021/06/22/ahead-of-dojo-tesla-reveals-its-massive-precursor-supercomputer/


Google claims their newest quantum computer can solve complex problems in 20 minutes where Dojo and other of its class will take 10,000 years. Of course quantum computer still have some inherent errors not unlike the analog computers did in my early years. Quantum computer technology is advancing at a rapid speed!
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Jun 17, 2021 14:12:43   #
Since there has been some comment about what if the RX100 VII had been set for ISO 64 and then see if DeNoise AI could be of value, I took a shot at F/5.6, ISO 64, 1/320. The other was taken before the tree was directly illuminated by the Sun and the new one was taken when it was directly illuminated. DeNoise AI set as before.

You be the judge.

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processed with DeNoise AI - Clear

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Jun 17, 2021 11:48:17   #
pithydoug wrote:
Which of the 4 functions did you use - standard, severe, clear or low light? Did you try them all to see what worked best? What was the photo's ISO to tell how much DeNoise actually did other than some sharpening?


Hi pithydoug,

I used Clear, Remove Noise set to High, Enhance Sharpness set to High, Recover Original Detail set to 93, and Color Noise Reduction set to 85. I intentionally took a noisy photo to test DeNoise AI. F/5, 1/1000, ISO 3200.

I tried the AUTO feature, Standard, Severe Noise, all of the Remove Noise and Enhance Resolution choices. AUTO selected Clear, and :ow for the Remove Noise and Enhance Resolution choices. My assessment of the AUTO choice is that the results were marginally better than the original photo. Like most programs, the user needs to still be the pilot.
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Jun 17, 2021 11:32:47   #
jaymatt wrote:
Nice.

I haven’t had much luck with Denoise--I must be doing something wrong. Any hints?


Maybe you are using the AUTO mode to allow the program to select the settings. So far I have found that DeNoise AI works well, but just selecting the AUTO mode is rather hit or miss. Try other settings.
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Jun 17, 2021 11:30:14   #
jerryc41 wrote:
Nice. On1 is going to have an uphill battle with it's version of DeNoise.


Hi jerryc41,

I have ordered ON1 NoNoise AI which is to be released this month. My plan it to process this image (RAW) with it and compare it to that of DeNoise AI. Should be interesting for a single data point anyway.
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Jun 17, 2021 11:26:28   #
SonyBug wrote:
Ummm, yes, I agree. I have the 100M7 and NEVER have noise like shown in the first picture. It is not a great low light camera, but not noisy either.


Hi SonyBug,

I intentionally made the photo noisy so that I could see how well DeNoise AI could improve it. F/5, 1/1000, ISO 3200. I processed the RAW BTW rather than the jpeg.
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Jun 16, 2021 18:10:33   #
CHG_CANON wrote:
Closing the loop: where is the image directly from the camera at ISO-100, showing what can be done by the camera alone vs the edited version at an unnecessary ISO-3200?


Good question. I didn’t take one because I was just testing the DeNoise AI program. If I wanted a really good image of the tree, I would use my D810. 😃
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Jun 16, 2021 17:49:25   #
joecichjr wrote:
Beautiful ⭐


Thanks
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Jun 16, 2021 17:49:04   #
WCS wrote:
Very impressive. It's as if you reduced ISO 50%! Thanks for sharing!


Thanks. See my reply to Chg_Canon please
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Jun 16, 2021 17:48:11   #
CHG_CANON wrote:
Why are you taking an image of a static subject at 1/1000 sec? Your Sony RX100M7 is rated to 4-stops in-body stabilization (IBIS). The image was captured at ISO-3200. Why not ISO-100 and 1/30 sec (5-stops different)?

The 1-inch sensor has a 2.7x crop factor. The image reports 28.5mm for an equivalent 77mm. Letting the camera shoot at 1/30 exercises that IBIS by just over 1-stop support.

Using the camera in a way that holds the ISO as low as possible while still obtaining sharply focus images is far cheaper in terms of (a) software costs, (b) computer equipment costs to run the software, and (c) time-effort to process your images.
Why are you taking an image of a static subject at... (show quote)


Hi Chg_Canon,
Simple answer is that is what I intended in setting the camera. I wanted to see how well DeNoise AI would clean up a photo like this. The leaves were recovered to look almost as they are in actuality.

Thanks for commenting.
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Jun 16, 2021 14:23:20   #
I think this is a nice example of DeNoise AI doing its job. The photo was taken with a Sony RX100 VII.

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Process with DeNoise AI clear

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Jun 13, 2021 14:06:32   #
sodapop wrote:
Uploaded the latest Topaz Sharpen AI today. My steps ase :Sending from Lightroom classic, edit in Topaz AI sharpen. AI opens and says preview not updated. So I click on update, it works for a while then returns photo to Lightroom with no adjustments. I put a request into Topaz for help but just wondered it any of you folks have encountered this and could possible help. I have win 10 latest on a PC.

thanks


I loaded the Sharpen AI update on my desktop and laptop. Both run WIN 10 Pro.

No problems. Loading and updating went quickly and smoothly.

Be sure to check in Setting --> Update & Security --> Windows Update. Sometimes you can believe you are up dated, but it still wants you to do more updating. Weird, but it is what we have to use.
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