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Nov 20, 2021 09:37:52   #
amfoto1 wrote:
Try to find a Gossen #4145 battery adapter. This is designed to hold two SR44 or two 357 or two 76 silver oxide batteries. Those are widely available and have a life span much closer to that of the original PX625 mercury batteries that meter used.

The #4145 adapter is no longer made, but can be found used sometimes. Keep watching for one on eBay and elsewhere. It not only hold the two batteries and fills up the battery compartment of the meter, it also corrects the voltage so that the meter will read correctly.

The Wein batteries you got are Zinc Air. Those will work okay, too. But they don't last long and end up being quite expensive. Taping up the holes won't lengthen their life. Once air is let inside, that activates the batteries and they will provide a level power output for maybe three or four months, then die quickly. Note that when you first remove the seal from the battery to let air inside, they will be slightly under powered. After about half an hour they'll come up the the correct power level and will remain steady.

The advantages of silver oxide is that they also have a steady power output, but a much longer life... one or two years is possible, depending upon the device. Also, they're sealed so removing them (or just turning the device off) will stop them from draining. Initially silver oxide are sometimes over powered, but settle down to a steady output after about half an hour. They'll maintain that for some time. In this case, the #4145 adapter should correct the voltage right from new.

DO NOT try to use 625 alkaline batteries (or any other type of alkaline, for that matter). They don't have a level power output and will give incorrect readings throughout their lifetime. There is no way to adjust for them either, since the voltage starts to drop right from new and simply continued to taper off. There are meters and cameras that can use alkaline batteries, but they have a voltage stabilizing circuit. Most meters and cameras that originally used mercury batteries do not have that circuit. (Alkaline batteries also are the type most prone to leak and do damage to electronic devices.)

If the Wein batteries you got have a metal ring pressed on, once they are run down remove that. You can buy 675 size hearing aid batteries very cheaply and simply install that metal ring on them to keep them centered inside the meter's battery compartment. For that matter, due to the way the two batteries stack in that meter, you also could just go to a hardware store and buy a few O rings in a size that fits snugly onto those hearing aid batteries and is large enough to keep them centered in the battery compartment without getting stuck in there.

You can use a similar trick with the silver oxide batteries, but still have the problem with the batteries having too high voltage. It might be possible to have the meter re-calibrated to use them. You'd have to check with a repair tech.

Wein 625 zinc air batteries cost around $4.50 each (at B&H) and if you're very lucky you will use six of them a year to power that meter. $27 annual cost.

675 zinc air hearing aid batteries can be bought on Amazon for $1 ea. (known brand) or even 50¢ ea. (unknown brand). They probably won't last as long as the Wein, so you might use 12 of them a year. $6 to $12 annual cost.

LR44 silver oxide batteries cost around $2 ea. (B&H) and will last at least a year. $2 annual cost.

Back when they were still being made, the Gossen #4145 adapter was a bit pricey at about $40, if memory serves. But it was a one time purchase and they typically came with a couple of the appropriate silver oxide batteries.

Gossen Luna Pro is an excellent meter, if you can make it work!
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Thanks for the advice. Yes, getting an adapter is going to be essential. I will not be using the meter much for my daily work but want it for my own artistic efforts I do from time to time.
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Nov 19, 2021 23:03:48   #
bluezzzzz wrote:
Late to the party, as usual, but I dug out my old Lunasix 3 meter, and here is a pic of the battery position.

Great old-time meter, BTW!


Perfect response to the question. Thanks!
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Nov 19, 2021 18:40:25   #
Orphoto wrote:
Usually it says on the inside of the lid in itty bitty type.


Good guess, but in this case, no cigar. Nothing at all....
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Nov 19, 2021 18:22:37   #
LARRY MBA wrote:
The + goes up on my Gossen Pro which goes against the screw in plug. The battery is a 357


another response to the actual question. Thank you!
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Nov 19, 2021 18:21:41   #
StanMac wrote:
In the Gossen Luna-Six the positive terminal faces up, therefore the contact in the bottom of the battery compartment is the negative terminal.

Stan


and you too get the prize for the best response. Thank you for your clarity.
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Nov 19, 2021 18:20:22   #
burkphoto wrote:
I was a bit puzzled, at first. My Gossen Luna Pro SBC uses a 9-Volt "transistor radio" battery such as an MN 1604 or IEC 6F 22 or 6LR61 or 006P. Other industry names for the 9V battery can be A1604, 522, 4922, MX2400, MX 1604, or 1604A! I used Gossen Luna Pro F meters years ago. They also use those same 9-Volt batteries.

Apparently, all the CDS cell meters use button cells. The usual orientation of button cells is positive (+) side up towards the lid of the battery compartment. Most button cell battery compartments are marked with a + on the inside of the lid.

I did find this site, which may have some relevant answers. https://gossen-photo.de/en/ersatz-fuer-quecksilberoxid-batterie-v625px/

The main issue seems to be with devices manufactured without voltage regulation devices in them. They need adapters to work properly with alkaline cells in bright light.
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DING, DING, DING, DING, DING, Burk gets the prize for actually answering the OP's original question in unambiguous terms. Positive terminal on the battery faces the metal plug! Thank you for your response. And, thanks to everyone else for providing additional info concerning substitute batteries. I am sure the Wein MRB625 batteries I got from B&H will poop out sooner rather than later and I will be seeking a more long-lived replacement -- if the convertors are still available somewhere... Thanks hogs.
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Nov 18, 2021 23:53:15   #
Paul Diamond wrote:
Agree. With several diamonds to be graded, you will be negotiating a 'package' price for grading all of them 'at one time.' The price should be much lower, unless you expect a GIA stamped logo with each appraisal. Less than a full written appraisal of each stone should be much less costly. - Recommend that you not choose a less reputable institution than GIA for the appraisals. And it will really help you have credibility when you are ready to sell them.


BINGO! Yes, I failed to add "GIA" to the Registered Gemologist comment. All the worse since I am half way to getting that certification. And, yes, negotiate a bulk pricing but be sure each individual stone is appraised and a Certificate of Appraisal is issued. Anything less would be a waste of your time and money. And, FYI, unmounted stones are comparatively easy to appraise (I would certainly offer a discount) as you dont have a mounting obscuring details and the Gemologist does not have to do complex calculations of weight based on sometimes hard to get physical measurements of size.
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Nov 18, 2021 21:25:32   #
User ID wrote:
You hafta use a dual lighting set up. First you light them like glassware, plenty of info available on that. But you hafta add small bright pin lights that make the sparkles. You’ll hafta move these around while watching for the sparkles. Unless you have a whole bunch of lights you may be better of shooting the “glassware” shot and then each of multiple sparkle shots all separately and using them as layers in post.

You can get to far shining light ONTO glassware as if it were pottery. You light up a bright environment that is refracted by the glass, through the glass. Likewise the sparkles, but thaz reflection instead of refraction.

If you think in those terms you’ll develop some feel for creating the illuminated environment. You actual subject objects can be thought of as invisible, like air. Only what is refracted and reflected by your special “solid air” will create an image. It has no opaque surface to wash with light like a face or a wooden carving.

It’s tricky til you get a feel for it. Think of a cut glass fruit bowl, only tiny. If you have such a bowl in can teach you things more easily. Then you hafta miniaturize the whole game.

The diamond facets are angled to be admired at “comfortable reading distance. Try to use that approximately that distance even if it requires severe cropping.
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Good advice here. May I add, get a piece if clear plastic or glass and drill a 1/16" to 1/8" hole in the center and use that to hold each diamond. Use lighting as described and experiment. Here is a reality, however, getting those diamonds appraised by a registered gemologist is the best way to market them. The photos, no matter how technically perfect they might be, will only entice the more uninformed diamond buyers. Without the documentation from an appraiser you might as well be selling photogenic fakes and trust me, there are a lot of them out there. An appraisal is money well spent, especially with a handful of unmounted gemstones. Good luck with your project and sale.
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Nov 18, 2021 18:42:06   #
huph, I thought it was Itsy bitsy, teeney weeny.... egads! spiders!
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Nov 18, 2021 18:28:17   #
Thanks pros for all the responses. Let me clarify my issue. The batteries are clearly marked, so no issue there. I need to know if the positive terminal is on the bottom of the well or on the metal plug that screws into the body. Thanks.
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Nov 18, 2021 01:02:31   #
Need some help. I just picked up the above light meter in a box of camera equipment at one of our auctions. It looks like it is in great condition. I found 1.35 volt batteries at B&H and they will fit. However, looking at the diagram for inserting the batteries it does not indicate which side is the positive side. The new batteries are not exactly the same profile as the originals depicted in the diagram. I have searched the internet and even downloaded and READ the Gossen manual and nowhere does it tell me, literally, which side is up. As this is a fine instrument I don't want to potentially ruin the electronics by inserting the batteries the wrong way. So my one and only question, does the positive terminal face the removable screw plug or do they face down into the well of the battery compartment? Thanks ahead.
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Nov 3, 2021 16:03:47   #
Elmo55 wrote:
My first hiking visit, and I want to go back.


Nice set. Brings back a number of memories from visits when I lived in Park Forest as a kid and Starved Rock was a nice day trip from there. Even rode bicycles to there once.
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Oct 31, 2021 16:14:02   #
Well done. I have been doing product photography for an auction house now for about 6 years. Unfortunately, due to the volume of items we photograph we cannot spend more than a minute on each so obvioulsy I can't get beyond merely providing a well lit catalog type photo. So I am a bit envious when I see photos like yours. I do the occasional artistic piece but those are only done for my own pleasure. Again, well done.
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Oct 25, 2021 22:43:02   #
I had that car. Same color, BMW 318i If I remember correctly. My front air dam was black and extended down quite a bit farther. It was a magnet for hitting parking blocks and going up curbs into driveways. YES, it was a blast to drive as were all 3-series BMW's before they got all bloated with electronics, air bags and cup holders. And, YES, parts, maintenance and repair were breathtakingly expensive.
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Oct 18, 2021 22:09:18   #
I was disappointed that he never ran for president. I would have voted for him regardless of his party affiliation. He was just that good as a leader. I can also completely agree with his reasons for not running, he didn't want to subject his family to the kind of indignities candidates and their families must endure. Gotta respect that.
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