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Jul 14, 2012 19:56:53   #
PNagy wrote:
"...why would they dump their profits into the 24-70 at $1300 (used)+ when a $200 lens would give them the same results? Better glass, sharper photos, better colour, nicer DoF and faster."

Wrong! We just love to impress people. With Canon lenses that is the L series designated by the red stripe an eighth of an inch from the end of the barrel. The trouble is, most people do not know what the red ring means. We haste to work harder getting the word out.


You are right! :). In order to impress more people, I have started to wrap red elastic bands around the barrel of all my lenses. See I'm spreading the word!!
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Jul 14, 2012 19:17:00   #
Weddingguy wrote:
wlgoode wrote:
viscountdriver wrote:
This is a friendly forum-no doubt about that. But is it too friendly?
I have seen some pictures praised, because the nice folk don't want to offend, when really they were not that good.
It might be better to be honest, in a nice way of course.


One reason I do post advice and not images. I don't need other's false praises. I know whether the image is good or not. I do my own much better C&C. If you've been shooting for 35 years you should too.


So are you suggesting that after 35years of shooting there is nothing left to learn? Is there nothing that someone else might notice that you've possibly overlooked?

If I felt that way about photography I wouldn't still be in the business and wouldn't still have my passion for it.

In my opinion if you post advice, you owe it to those that you are advising, to show, by way of your work, that you know what you are talking about.

Just my thoughts on the subject.
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:thumbup:

For any newbies out there Weddingguy knows his stuff, I've learned more an a few helpful things from him when he offers advice.
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Jul 14, 2012 18:53:10   #
wilsondl2 wrote:
MWAC wrote:
CAM1017 wrote:
amyvan171 wrote:
Im getting quite frustrated at this particular topic. I have a T2i rebel 18mpx camera, a zoom lense, and bought an external flash. Whenever I speak to professional photographers in my area and they ask what equipment I have they cringe. I feel I come up with quite good photos with what I have but wanted to know... Do you really need those thousands of dollar cameras and lenses and lighting kits to be successful in this field?


You all ready have pro quality equipment. Keep shooting. Its the person behind the camera that makes the image and with the equipment you have you are capable of world class work! :thumbup:
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I'm sorry but a T2i rebel is NOT Pro quality equipment, it is an entry level DSLR pure and simple, doesn't matter how you spin it, it is what it is. That being said knowing how to use your equipment and push it to the limits is what makes you a great photographer.

I use a Canon 40D (old pro-consumer grade DSLR) and a 24-70L (pro level lens). Why? because upgrading glass of the camera body is the way to go in the long run and when purchasing my lens I knew what I needed to be able to get out of it. The 24-70 gives me the reach I want, with low light speed I find the kit lens lacks. Professional photographers know the limits of their equipment and know the how to either work around it or save to get it. (I am not a pro)
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If you didn't shoot low light the kit lens would work well for you. This person has equipment that will be fine for most pro work. The new entry level is much better than the PRO level of 5 yrs ago. It's what you want to use it for not the price tag. In 40 yrs of doing weddings about 75% of the time a guest has a newer and better camera than the one I have/had. No way you can keep up. I would not get a top of the line camera -even though they are built to take abuse they weigh a lot and I do not need the features they have. By the way if you are not a PRO why are you anexpeert on what equipment a PRO needs. - Dave
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After 2 years of learning all that I can about photography (and still not knowing 1/4 of what I should know) and growing I wouldn't touch the kit lens with a ten foot pole, it lacks sharpness even in the best lighting conditions, the variable-aperture sucks (in my opinion) and a number of other reasons that once you become comfortable and understand what your camera is capable of, you need to sell the kit lens (normally the 18-55 mm) and get yourself better glass, it doesn't have to be L series glass, but you do need to upgrade to something that allows you to get tack sharp images. Telling a person that a Rebel camera is pro-quality equipment is lying to them, it's not. Even Canon will tell you that, it's a beginner level DSLR. Telling the OP it's the user not the camera is a half lie. Tell the truth, don't say what think they want to hear. It's 3/4s the photographer and 1/4 the equipment they are using.

Do you need expensive equipment to be a pro? No. Does expensive equipment help make better photos? yep it sure does, if it didn't then you would see pros shooting with the Canon EF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6, I mean why would they dump their profits into the 24-70 at $1300 (used)+ when a $200 lens would give them the same results? Better glass, sharper photos, better colour, nicer DoF and faster.

I'm not a pro, I just started building my portfolio but I can tell you I am confident enough in my abilities as a photographer to know not only what I am talking about but know when I wasn't ready to be hanging a shingle and taking clients.
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Jul 14, 2012 17:06:46   #
jfrank wrote:
"Let he that is without sin cast the first stone."


I fail to understand, are you trying to say that C&C should not be offered at all or did I miss the point? Would not be the first time I mis-read a post.
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Jul 14, 2012 15:43:00   #
Kaerynn wrote:
If the photographer was paid for the photos, they are now yours. If you feel kind use her name as the photographer and yours as the editor, you may end up in business together!


I'm sorry that is incorrect if you live in the US, unless the photographer signs the copyright over to the client, the images will remain the property of the photographer and as such, edittng of any kind is not allowed. Simply hiring and paying a photographer does not give the client permission to do what they want with the images.

In this case, the photographer has given permission to the client to edit the images, she has signed over at least a limited copyright to the client.
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Jul 14, 2012 14:43:08   #
My parents inspired me in a round about way. The lack of family photos inspired me to take as many photos of my children as possible.
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Jul 14, 2012 14:41:15   #
I think there is a difference in the way I critique a member, if the are someone trying to get the best photo of their children/grand children I offer a different type type of critique than I would of someone who is thinking of growing past that and I offer a different type of critique if the poster is charging money for their pictures.

Think what you will, that's just how I work. I expect different levels of talent/quality from each group and as such differ my feedback for each.
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Jul 14, 2012 11:51:23   #
are we all looking at the same picture? This image is a great start but really? (sorry, I'm being honest here).

the lighting is bad, you don't have any separation between the back ground and the baby (where does the hat end and the background start?). it's also very harsh lighting, not what you want for babies.

you can't really see the baby's face, it's all in the shadows.

Skin tone is uneven, his feet are red, his hands are red, one of his cheeks are red. He is also very yellow.

He's smack in the middle of the frame, it makes for a very "boring" composition. Not to mention he is way to small for the frame. He get's lost.

I'm sorry if I hurt your feelings, you have promise and drive but you need to work on putting it all together.
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Jul 14, 2012 11:45:39   #
CAM1017 wrote:
amyvan171 wrote:
Im getting quite frustrated at this particular topic. I have a T2i rebel 18mpx camera, a zoom lense, and bought an external flash. Whenever I speak to professional photographers in my area and they ask what equipment I have they cringe. I feel I come up with quite good photos with what I have but wanted to know... Do you really need those thousands of dollar cameras and lenses and lighting kits to be successful in this field?


You all ready have pro quality equipment. Keep shooting. Its the person behind the camera that makes the image and with the equipment you have you are capable of world class work! :thumbup:
quote=amyvan171 Im getting quite frustrated at th... (show quote)


I'm sorry but a T2i rebel is NOT Pro quality equipment, it is an entry level DSLR pure and simple, doesn't matter how you spin it, it is what it is. That being said knowing how to use your equipment and push it to the limits is what makes you a great photographer.

I use a Canon 40D (old pro-consumer grade DSLR) and a 24-70L (pro level lens). Why? because upgrading glass of the camera body is the way to go in the long run and when purchasing my lens I knew what I needed to be able to get out of it. The 24-70 gives me the reach I want, with low light speed I find the kit lens lacks. Professional photographers know the limits of their equipment and know the how to either work around it or save to get it. (I am not a pro)
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Jul 13, 2012 23:43:53   #
I wish I could say I was surprise, but after yesterday, sadly I am not.

Please let us know how it works out for you.
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Jul 13, 2012 17:10:51   #
I have asked the Admin to close the People sub-form. I'm pretty sure we won't have a volunteer by tomorrow morning.
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Jul 13, 2012 11:52:35   #
dasloaf wrote:
I have had the 1.8 for over 2 years and for $100 and never had a problem. it is an awesome lens!


Owned mine for about a year and half now, no issues. I've dropped it (on carpet), it's still working just like the day I took it out of the box and it's the lens I put on the camera when one of the girls wants to take pictures. For $100 it's a great lens, but I'm not going to compare the build quality to my 24-70L or even my 85 1.8. Apples to oranges there.
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Jul 13, 2012 10:34:32   #
still looking for a volunteer, if we don't have one by the tomorrow morning, I will have the Admin close the sub-forum.
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Jul 13, 2012 10:32:28   #
Rachel wrote:
Is there anyway to soften the shadow around the nose so that it's not so harsh? I think that's the biggest problem to me.


I can actually almost remove all of the shadow if you want. :) I'll play with the shadows tonight and add some more black/contrast back in (I seem to remove it to get a hazy look, but that's me).

I won't post anymore pictures (due to creepy dude) so I'll send them to you via email and we can discuss that way. Unfortunately that means we won't get valuable feedback but such is life ... remind me to send you the link to a facebook site that does honest and wonderful C&C, it's private and closed but very helpful and no creeps allowed.
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Jul 13, 2012 08:27:35   #
I am hoping someone would be kind enough to volunteer to take over the People sub-forum here on UHH, I will be pulling back my invovement on UHH after the recent theft of a picture of my daughter that a fellow UHH decide to use as his profile picture and the harassment he felt I deserved after I kindly asked him to remove it.

If we have no volunteers, I will be asking the Admin to close the section as I do believe that someone needs to monitor it. I have already let the Admin know that I would look for a replacement.

Thanks
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