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Jan 23, 2016 10:33:20   #
Rcox wrote:
The only cord it struck with me is the apparent anger you displayed in trying to demean someone for what they said. You say your informed, maybe, but you lashed out at me without knowing anything about me or my age. You call that informed?


Rcox, I''m not going to get into a "who can p... the farthest" contest with you. If I offended you or someone else then I apologize.
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Jan 23, 2016 10:25:16   #
warrior wrote:
How am I to ignore White Water and Bengazzi(spell)??


You can't and no one asked anyone to. If you research every politician currently running, or previously elected you will find closets full of skeletons. This post was regarding money contributions. I or no one else endorsed a particular candidate. My reasoning and rationale was Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, George W. Bush, Bill Clinton, George H. Bush, Ronald Reagan and everyone else that is currently running or previously ran all benefited from financial contributions. And to single out one particular candidate is unfair.
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Jan 23, 2016 10:03:34   #
Rcox wrote:
A bunch of angry old men? Perhaps you should put forth such effort to keep yourself informed. There is nothing worse than an ignorant v**er.

You have no ideal how or where people v**e. Most people are smart enough to see pass smoke screens. No politician is perfect. They all have blood on their hands. And it may surprise you of just how much "informed" that I am. And BTW I'm a "angry old man" myself since obviously that struck a cord with you.
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Jan 23, 2016 09:30:57   #
jim quist wrote:
Now, where did she get all that money from?


She probably got it from the same place that they all do. Since you obviously have time on your hands do some research on how much money the other candidates have had donated to their campaigns. She's no better and no worst than the rest of them! She just looks better in her wig then you do in yours. So sick and tired of this forum which should be used for "all things photography" getting hijacked by a bunch of angry old men. If you need to vent your gripes then its my understanding there is a more appropriate area to do it in.
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Dec 30, 2015 17:26:14   #
Ol' Frank wrote:
My great old Nikon D7000 and even older Sigma 18-250. Good for the rest of my life unless something else comes along that I can afford. :thumbup:


Well then it looks like the Nikon 7000, Sigma 18-250 and the photog ain't to shabby at all. I'm a Sony shooter and your pics have the "minolta" look to them (a very good thing).
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Dec 30, 2015 12:30:08   #
:thumbup: What camera & lens(s) did you use?
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Nov 23, 2015 17:36:11   #
CHASEPLACEMAIL wrote:
I don't know what more "oomph" means to you, but judging from the pictures you posted, it looks like your current equipment enables you to do the job quite well. There's no substitute for your own creativity and capabilities.
I'd suggest focusing on what it is about your equipment that's preventing you from getting a certain set of results and identify the addl capabilities you feel you need. That should take you directly the the equipment you require to get to what you think is your next level.
Good luck.
I don't know what more "oomph" means to ... (show quote)


Ditto! those are some great pics.
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Nov 20, 2015 11:33:41   #
Far North wrote:
I started this thread in an effort to glean the collective knowledge and experience and so be able to make an informed decision as to which camera I wanted to buy. I also wrote that I did not intend to get a brand war going. Based on these several pages of posts, what I am getting out of it is that neither the Nikon nor the Canon is "better" than the other. Each has its strong points and not so strong point, but neither seems to have any particularly "weak" points. I am finding that each has something for which it seems to do particularly well, i.e., Canon excels in speed of shooting, while the Nikon seems to be good at landscape. As for learning, I certainly am doing that. The personal barbs aren't adding anything to the discussion, though.

The other thing that I am learning is that pixel count isn't so important as is the electronics behind the sensor. Yes, more pixels means greater resolution, but if the processor isn't that great, it doesn't do the resolution a lot of good. Then finally, I am learning from all of this that regardless of how high tech the camera is, none of it matters if the user doesn't know how to use it, control it, put it to its best use. To me that doesn't mean one has to be the master of everything a camera is capable of, rather it means that the photographer should be thoroughly knowledgeable as to the features he or she routinely needs to use. I suppose that even means that if you have a $5000.00 camera and only shoot in "auto," then you ought to be completely familiar with how that works and how to use that one feature. And finally, no camera, no matter how capable it is, will take good photos if the photographer doesn't have an eye for a photo. Photography is part knowledge and part art. I, for one, am not content with just knowing how to push the shutter button or how to change shutter speed and aperture. I am one who likes to know not only what, but why and how. Guess that comes from being a pilot for so many years. And about that "art" part--well that's something that is both learned and gifted. My grandson has that gift. He can see a picture. I, on the other hand, have to study it a lot, then hope it comes out as I envision it. All of which has little to do with camera brand or style.

So, I want to learn, and whatever camera I get will be the one that speaks the loudest to me, from several different angles. Right now, it's the D7200. Yes, I know the virtues of FF, but that isn't what I'm after. So I choose to stay within my self-set parameters and vet out what lies within those parameters. I greatly appreciate all the information being proffered here, too. Lots of good stuff. Oh, and it seems that Fuji is nipping at the heels of Sony in the mirrorless venue, with its X-T1.
I started this thread in an effort to glean the co... (show quote)


Far North so sorry to be one of those that contributed to your thread going off topic.
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Nov 20, 2015 10:55:05   #
CHOLLY wrote:
You are one of those people who loves trolling. You admitted that you aren't interested in learning anything early in this thread... now you criticize someone you DON'T know for actually having an open mind.

Someone I might add, who has been using Canon cameras since the late '60s and owns well over $10000 worth of gear.

But hey; if you want to be loud and ignorant, by all means; carry on. :roll:


Cholly stay above it! Spend your time and effort informing "us" alpha and could be alpha shooters about Sony. As someone posted on a thread (20nov15) this site unfortunately is becoming nastier, and someone else posted the example of Ford,Chevy,Dodge. When someone is dug in deep they aren't going to change, good or bad. Just keep the Sony information coming, "Self Confessed Sony Fan" :lol: .
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Nov 20, 2015 08:52:51   #
Thanks for your replies Apaflo and mwsilvers, and what I actually meant is I can't understand "why" Sony would let another company achieve higher results out of their sensors. Especially when you consider how much bigger Sony is then either Nikon or Canon as far as company size and revenue. I understand the whole processing and system philosophy. I understand how the 7200 outperforms the a77ii, I don't understand the why.
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Nov 20, 2015 00:10:00   #
CHOLLY wrote:
The D7200 has better overall image quality than the A77II. That includes better high ISO performance and slightly better dynamic range.

But the Autofocus on the A77II is phenomenal... I mean REALLY REALLY good. And of course, the A77II will fire off 12 frames per second with full autofocus control.

The A77II also has 79 AF points across the field of view compared to 51 for the D7200 and 65 for the 7DII.

The AF system of the A77II is faster than both of the others, and there are multiple adjustments and selections, from the full 79 all the way down to just 15.

Additionally, the A77II has much better video capability than both of the other cameras and it is much much MUCH cheaper.

The Nikon and Sony both have much better image quality than the Canon. The Sony is the fastest and has the most flexible AF system. Additionally, it also has the fastest frame rate.

I have handled both the A77II and the 7DII, but not the D7200. The A77II is a much better camera overall than the 7DII, which is EXTREMELY overpriced for what you actually get.
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Thanks for the reply Cholly. I can not figure out how Nikon cameras with Sony sensors, out perform Sony cameras with Sony sensors. Regarding the video, one of the main reasons I switched from the Canon T2i to the A77 was for the superior video. When I compare my older pics from the T2i to the ones from the A77 there is not that much difference, both manufactures' 24-70mm 2.8 & 70-200mm 2.8. The biggest difference is probably due to my skills improving. The video is a different story, it's not nearly as close. The A77 takes much better videos and with decent auto focusing also.
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Nov 19, 2015 22:59:44   #
Impressionist wrote:
Have d7200 and like it a lot but it isn't as fast as my Sony a7711 which is at bargain prices now. Using old Nikon AS lenses on the D7200 works out well. Canon is nice but over priced.


Being a Sony user I was dying to hear someone mention the A77II. Not to hijack this thread but how does it compare to your 7200?
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Nov 18, 2015 12:25:56   #
burkphoto wrote:
Welcome to the age of political correctness. I'm the first one to say I HATE political correctness, because 95% of the time, there is absolutely no intention of ill will on the part of the person who is being politically incorrect. But at the same time:

The Platinum Rule is a good guide for life: "Do unto others as THEY WANT TO BE DONE UNTO..." In most urban areas, in fact most places in the USA and the Western World, most females over 14 do not want to be referred to as a "girl". "Lady," or "young lady," Miss, Ms, Mrs, or similar terms work well.

It may seem to be a compliment, but "girl" can have many kinds of degrading and insulting connotations. If you're not aware of them, just ask a few women to explain it to you. You'll have your ears burning in no time.

Women might refer to *themselves* as "girls", when they're engaged in "girl talk", but that doesn't mean you can use that term if you're not part of their group! It's the same as African Americans using the 'N' word to refer to their black friends. With them, it's a term of endearment, or brotherhood, or even respect (!). Coming from someone who isn't black, it's the worst kind of insult there is.

I know it's confusing, but you just have to accept it and move on.
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Burkphoto you get it! And whether a person believes in PC or not, it's here to stay. I'm African American(black) and for a example some of my best friends are German American(white). We are "boys" aka buddies but if someone called me a boy then I would take offense. I have a client that owns a Irish dance school. In our conversations she often refers to her staff and students as "Irish bit....". I always laugh when she does this but I know if I called them that it would offend her. YOU SAID IT PERFECTLY when you wrote "but you just have to accept it and move on". I do agree though with what some one else posted regarding leaving the camera club. It appears that it's more then just this one issue.
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Nov 14, 2015 15:51:02   #
Wow! Proof that it's not just the gear, but the person behind it. My first dslr was the T2i. I only had it for 2 years until I switched over to the Sony A77. I just never really felt one with the system(T2i). When I look back at some of the pics that I took with it though I often do think they were decent. In other words it wasn't necessarily the camera that was lacking but the guy behind it. Anyway, Great Pics!
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Oct 25, 2015 00:08:03   #
Stunning! I love it when enough of the background is included to add the appropriate feel the photographer is relaying. I could not download it, so may I ask what equipment did you use?
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