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Jan 22, 2019 01:46:41   #
rook2c4 wrote:
Did you consider the possibility that the lens would have been intact, regardless of the presence of the UV filter? UV filters are thin enough to push your thumb through them without much effort. It does not take much force at all to break them. However, the front element on the lens is typically a fairly thick chunk of glass... unless you are super strong, don't expect to be able to push you thumb through it!

I'm not saying it is impossible the flimsy UV filter played a role in keeping your lens from shattering, but it is more likely the filter did nothing at all.

Let's say, you have a steel plate. you place a glass sheet over it. Then you shoot an arrow at the glass-covered steel plate. The glass shatters, yet there is no apparent damage to the steel plate.
Can one therefore conclude the glass actually protected the steel plate from destruction?
Did you consider the possibility that the lens wou... (show quote)


If we analyze the problem as ballistics, any material that our moving object encounters specially when it breaks, takes energy away from the projectile and lessen impact velocity/penetration. Bulletproof glass are many layers of thin glass glued together. As each sheet breaks, it slows the bullet to the point it stops and the last sheets are not damaged.
UV filters will help with dirt and impacts. How much will depend on the circumstance. On the other hand, how much it affects the image will highly depend on the quality of the filter. A good quality UV filter should be negligible.
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Jan 22, 2019 01:09:00   #
Transbuff1985 wrote:
Nice shots. thanks for sharing. Bob pg24


Thank you
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Jan 22, 2019 00:58:31   #
Rolk wrote:
Pg. 17 - Great creativity on this series, Wallen! Nicely done.
Tim


Thanks a lot.

They each have their own challenges;
1.The moored boats were all bobbing up and down every time another boat passes by and it took i while to get a sharp image with a long exposure.
2.The Marina -camera was a point and shoot.
3. Cyclist under the bridge was the hardest to capture. no tripod, no flash, mixed light source, too much light contrast, capture movement in low light and no control of the subject (passersby). It was luck and technique in equal amounts.

Here are some more. Sunset under a bridge; Taken last December with a Huawei celphone, edited with PS




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Jan 22, 2019 00:01:09   #
Transbuff1985 wrote:
Nice set Wallen thanks for sharing. Bob pg17


Thanks
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Jan 21, 2019 23:58:42   #
PAToGraphy wrote:
p.17 The lighting and composition of the last one is wonderful - the lines jnterrupted by soft arcs and bicycle wheels. Just love it.


Thanks.
It is one of my favorites as well because of how technical (and lucky with the passing cyclist) it was to get it right.
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Jan 21, 2019 22:08:12   #
Some old low lights from D5300 a Canon point and shoot and a D7100.






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Jan 15, 2019 23:49:35   #
Bipod wrote:

Are there any artists or scientists on UHH? Very, very few posts.

:-) I claim to be both- a scientist and an artist and many things else LOL.

Bipod wrote:

Let's all change the world! But let's make sure the change is an improvment.

Been trying, but it seems the world does not really want peace.
I propose the CODE (Communal Democracy) as a universal form of government, Iscariot as a way of life and Self rule without harm as the soul & core of existence.
Anybody interested please contact me for details :-)

Bipod wrote:

No single person every changed the world more than Adolf Hitler (who was,
incidentally an artist, a vegan and a believer in astrology--very "New Age").

Hmmm, i believe that would be Jesus, because even Adolf's moves was connected with the guy.
But if Adam and Eve was real, the person we should blame for all the problems in the world is a woman :-)

Bipod wrote:

It's easy to accept the beliefs of one's time, whether its slavery, anti-semitism or
technologism. (Have you ever noticed that the solution to any technological problem
is....more technology? If the product killed you, you need to buy the upgrade.)

Not for me it though. I'm pretty much an oddball when it come to beliefs and point of views. I tend to see things as spheres instead of coins.

Bipod wrote:

People forget that there are two kinds of innovation: good and bad. Examples of
the former category include aspirin and indoor plumbing,. Examples of the latter:
cigarettes, thalidomide, asbestos and novochok.

My take is that generally, good or bad is just a preferential point of view. Innovation is always a step up but people tend to view or fooled to view commercialism as innovation.

Bipod wrote:

The conquest of photography by consumerism has almost gone
unnoticed. But not by art historians. And not by future generations--history is
a harsh critic.

You have me confused here. Consumerism is the protection or promotion of the interests of consumers.
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Jan 15, 2019 22:39:12   #
Picture Taker wrote:
Are we confusing "ART" with taste. That is another subject


That is the truth. Very few understand what art is but everybody is a critique/opinionated.
Even some of those who trained are more concerned with their own taste than what art really is. Such as calling a light-bulb that goes on and off in an empty room or a peeing statue art. Worse, they believe and push it as high art and is the future of artistic endeavors.
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Jan 15, 2019 22:14:25   #
Shutterbug57 wrote:
You must be a young one. Most of us older folk would remember sitting through interminable slide shows from our neighbors vacations. There was another way to show pictures that did not include printing.


Yes, and we have been adept at reading negatives too, choosing which ones to print from there :-)
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Jan 14, 2019 23:35:51   #
kymarto wrote:
Indeed. Since you can't print a RAW, or even view it for that matter, what are you using to convert and view the RAW vs the jpg?


I use Photoshop to go straight to editing because i have little free time and edit only photos i find interesting. I revert to the native brands software if its not possible to open the files directly with PS.

This fit me because I shoot RAW only if i'm getting paid.
For my own use, i have allocated one button on my camera to shoot Jpeg+RAW so i have an instant option if i want to because generally, i shoot with my own picture control settings directly to Jpeg.
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Jan 14, 2019 00:40:21   #
srt101fan wrote:
Larry - I find this comment of yours bothersome: "...I don't have patience for is those who maintain that if you shoot and save your images in raw, camera controls have no effect". I have been led to believe, and still believe, that the picture controls (as Nikon calls them) have NO effect on the RAW file! This has been stated and repeated by many UHH members. And here you emphatically claim the opposite! This issue is too important to let go, can someone please post the definitive answer?

I wonder if the disconnect isn't in the language we use. You say that you can see the effect of camera controls such as saturation and sharpness in your RAW files. But how can this be when, as I understand it, you cannot see a RAW file, i.e., it has to be processed in camera or on a computer before it becomes a visible image file. So I believe that the camera control effects you are seeing are NOT because the RAW file has been affected but are rather a part of the process you used to make the RAW data visible. The RAW file (data) remains unchanged and is NOT affected by the picture control settings.

Am I wrong? Somebody please comment!
Larry - I find this comment of yours bothersome: ... (show quote)


:-) RAW is how the camera saw the image and saved it. But we can not see raw files. we need to interpret those files to something in the monitor for us to see. That process of interpretation is what some judge as "manipulation". The difference is, that interpretation is subjective and only temporary. Done for the sole purpose of enabling us to view the digital data.
Different soft wares and settings can change how that interpretation will appear even without our intent or control.
On the other hand, JPG or other file images are the saved interpretations. Many of the data still available in the RAW file would be lost when we save the interpreted images. That is why these file sizes are smaller in comparison.

Thus it is indeed true that the raw files are unchanged and not affected by settings, it is also true that whatever you see is affected as it is already an interpreted data.

On the other hand, intentional editing and modification is the crux of manipulation and is totally another matter.

:-)
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Jan 14, 2019 00:11:04   #
G Brown wrote:
I am sure that Artists scream 'Rubbish' at art work they dislike, just as photographers do.

Sure they do LOL. The truth is that a lot of people think themselves are artist but in reality, they are just b*llsh*tting to benefit themselves.


G Brown wrote:
With only a little bit of knowledge you can make out you are a qualified critic.
Even with no knowledge, everyone has opinions.

HOW things are made isn't really relevant....self made critics abound everywhere.

Have fun doing what you do - who knows... 50 years after your death what you produce now might well become the latest trendy work of Art..

Critique is one of those where little knowledge becomes really dangerous, most specially when spoken by prominent figures of society.
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Jan 13, 2019 23:35:45   #
Jupiter Creek wrote:
Just to modify my explanation.
The spider is in perfect focus in RAW, it isn't in the jpeg


Actually my comment was a general overview. Specifics will happen only if i know exactly what you are doing and what software you are using. Perhaps you can give a little more detail?
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Jan 13, 2019 23:32:30   #
Delderby wrote:
JPGs discard only what they don't need. RAW data needs to be converted to a JPG or TIFF etc before printing, either by the computer or by the latest printers themselves. ALL digital photographs benefit from (some) PP sharpening, before viewing or printing. This is down to the camera sensor not the lens. Your problem is not RAW v JPG.


It depend on the compression ratio. If too low, then JPEG artifacts will happen even on the first get go. As for printers, it may be printing with the nozzles not calibrated to their sharpest position. low quality materials both ink and paper can mess things too. The person seeking answers says the raw files were satisfactory but loosing sharpness when printed. I do not believe this is a sensor nor a lens issue.

But you got me thinking with PP sharpening. Over sharpening images can actually do the opposite.
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Jan 13, 2019 23:07:03   #
Its just Expression vs Information. SOOC would be information, good for News, Family snap shots etc.
SOOC can be Expressions too but those are rare on-of-a-kinds shots.

Doing post is Expression (artistic or otherwise) where sky is the limit.

Some pictures need to be As-is, some images are better if polished on post.
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