repleo wrote:
Your aperture wouldn't change between crop and FF cameras, but the FF may give you better ISO performance depending on the model. As you already observed, the 'equivalent focal length' or angle of vision is different by the crop factor.
Repleo, in the interest of clarity, let me pose my question a little differently: Had I had a good FF frame Canon (since my 60D is a Canon, etc.) if I had moved the 50mm lens(FF), (I could not move the 24mm as it is a crop factor lens) to a FF Canon body, set in manual with the same settings as I had made on the 60D, and at the same distance from the subject, would I have had better light gathering ability and if so why? I am aware that the 50mm on a FF would have been wider angle than on the 60D (by the crop factor of 1.6) but I am addressing light gathering ability as to aperture....perhaps in other words......we all know that 50 mm on a FF is equivalent to 80mm on a Canon crop (50mm X 1.6=80mm). BUT would the 1.8 app on the FF still be the equivalent of 1.8 on the crop or would it really be the equivalent of 1.8 X 1.6 =2.8 on the crop?????? Or are you telling me the effective aperture as well as shutter speed would stay the same but the ISO float being adjusted by the camera automatically would give me a lower ISO on the FF than on the CROP? And if so, why is that? Sorry if I am being dense but I am really trying to fully understand this. Thanks to all who are knowledgeable and will comment back on this.....
OH.....................I may have just had a mental break through!! Or then maybe not, lol.........Repleo, I have come up with what I believe is correct and what you are trying to tell me......lets see if I am on it or not.......the field of view changes by the crop factor since I am remaining the same distance from the subject with the two cameras.....the aperture is unaffected by the crop BUT, because the FF lense is larger in diameter, that additional diameter in the lense gives me greater light gathering ability with the FF, hence, the camera can select a smaller ISO than on the crop.....and that is why the FF will always be able to give better light gathering ability than a crop once you get to the point that a wider aperture lens for the crop becomes either unavailable or unaffordable.........am I correct or am I still all wet?
Your aperture wouldn't change between crop and FF ... (
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Canontom.
Your question has me confused now. To simplify, the same aperture and the same shutter speed should have the same light gathering ability regardless of the sensor size or the focal length of the lens, so theoretically should give the same exposure. Although not really relevant to your question, different lenses have different transmission ratings or T-stops which effects the total amount of light arriving at the sensor. Think of the t-stop as the efficiency of the lens to allow light to pass through all of the elements. ISO only comes into play once the gathered light hits the sensor. Better ISO performance allows you to choose shorter shutter speeds for the same noise level. In general, FF cameras tend to have better ISO performance than crop sensors, but age of camera is a factor in that some newer crop sensors have ISO performance that equal or exceed FF cameras of just a few years ago. So to go back to your original scenario with the running kids, a new(er) FF should give you better ISO than a new(er) crop which would allow you to use a shorter shutter speed which would help 'freeze' the kids. The quality of the specific lens and sensor combination comes into play for the focus speed, low light focusing and tracking capability, which are probably even more important than aperture or ISO for shooting kids in low light.
All of the above is my current understanding of how all of these things interact. I am completely open to correction and willing to learn from other posters.