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A Sony a7Riii for all-around, including sports. Wow!
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Oct 25, 2017 17:54:31   #
Desert Gecko Loc: desert southwest, USA
 
Friends, Sony did it again. I've long thought Sony's a7Rii was nearly a perfect camera except it failed for fast action situations or sports. Along came the a-mount a99ii which used the same sensor but in the a-mount body with all necessary features to make it a sports-camera beast, but it came with the minor cost of the translucent mirror. Sony hit one out of the park with the a9, but that's a bit too much and too much money for me.

Now, Sony seems to have listened to its customers by updating what many consider to be one of the best portrait/landscape cameras ever made and released the a7Riii. It uses the same 42MP sensor after it was re-wired to offer a better focus system (doubling focus speed) supplying an improved processor. Sony added a card slot, so now it uses two SD, one at UHS 1 and the other at UHS 2. They doubled the battery life and added a touch screen (for focus points) and a joystick. The new body shoots up to 10fps (8fps with live view) -- not bad for a "landscape camera." There are many video enhancements as well, and much more that I can't recall at the moment. I'd provide a link, but those pesky link police would move this post (besides, news of this release is all over photography sites).

Move over D850, time to share the spotlight and maybe head for the shadows.

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Oct 25, 2017 19:46:14   #
repleo Loc: Boston
 
Sounds good. Still, I don't think I will be trading up from my A7Rii anytime soon.

Also announced was a new FE 24-105mm F4 G OSS zoom lens. Now that really interests me.

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Oct 25, 2017 20:34:37   #
HOT Texas Loc: From the Heart of Texas
 
I've been watching all the video's, That is one sweet camera.

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Oct 25, 2017 21:48:27   #
Desert Gecko Loc: desert southwest, USA
 
repleo wrote:
Sounds good. Still, I don't think I will be trading up from my A7Rii anytime soon.

Also announced was a new FE 24-105mm F4 G OSS zoom lens. Now that really interests me.


Yes, a Sony 24-105mm f/4 G sounds nice -- except on the wallet. And now a 400mm f/2.8 prime that should appease the haters who say Sony doesn't offer enough lenses. I think these lenses pretty much fill any gaps in the native Sony e-mount lens lineup. Of course, Sigma and Samyang are pumping out FE lenses like clockwork, too.

The a7Rii is a fine camera, and until today's announcement I was torn between it (and an a6k body for sports) or the a-mount a99ii. I do mostly landscapes, astro, and candids, but I also take a fair amount of pics of my active kids. For me, the a7Riii seems to be the answer.

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Oct 25, 2017 21:49:31   #
Desert Gecko Loc: desert southwest, USA
 
HOT Texas wrote:
I've been watching all the video's, That is one sweet camera.


It sure sounds like it. I'm just now starting to see videos of real-life with it, so I hope it pans out (yes, pun intended).

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Oct 25, 2017 21:52:59   #
repleo Loc: Boston
 
Desert Gecko wrote:
Yes, a Sony 24-105mm f/4 G sounds nice -- except on the wallet. And now a 400mm f/2.8 prime that should appease the haters who say Sony doesn't offer enough lenses. I think these lenses pretty much fill any gaps in the native Sony e-mount lens lineup. Of course, Sigma and Samyang are pumping out FE lenses like clockwork, too.

The a7Rii is a fine camera, and until today's announcement I was torn between it (and an a6k body for sports) or the a-mount a99ii. I do mostly landscapes, astro, and candids, but I also take a fair amount of pics of my active kids. For me, the a7Riii seems to be the answer.
Yes, a Sony 24-105mm f/4 G sounds nice -- except o... (show quote)


.....For me, the a7Riii seems to be the answer....
Price for new is down to $2400 now. In the past, Sony has dropped the price of the older model only for a couple of weeks after a new launch and then pushes the price back up a couple of hundred bucks.

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Oct 25, 2017 23:13:07   #
Desert Gecko Loc: desert southwest, USA
 
repleo wrote:
.....For me, the a7Riii seems to be the answer....
Price for new is down to $2400 now. In the past, Sony has dropped the price of the older model only for a couple of weeks after a new launch and then pushes the price back up a couple of hundred bucks.


I'm not sure I follow you. The a7Rii is reduced to $2400 until Nov. 3rd, Sony says. Did you see the a7Riii for that? That would be something -- and I doubt Sony could keep up with the demand if that were the price.

Sony might play with the price of the a7Riii a bit. A few years ago when it released the a77ii, the price was all over the place for a little while (I picked it up for $898) before it settled at $1198, where it remains today.

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Oct 26, 2017 00:18:56   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
Desert Gecko wrote:
Move over D850, time to share the spotlight and maybe head for the shadows.

We’ll have to get you and the guy named for a weed in the same thread.

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Oct 26, 2017 05:50:15   #
repleo Loc: Boston
 
Desert Gecko wrote:
I'm not sure I follow you. The a7Rii is reduced to $2400 until Nov. 3rd, Sony says. Did you see the a7Riii for that? That would be something -- and I doubt Sony could keep up with the demand if that were the price.

Sony might play with the price of the a7Riii a bit. A few years ago when it released the a77ii, the price was all over the place for a little while (I picked it up for $898) before it settled at $1198, where it remains today.


Sorry. I misread the quotation. The $2400 was for the A7Rii.

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Oct 26, 2017 08:47:09   #
cjc2 Loc: Hellertown PA
 
Sony makes some nice stuff. When I retire from my pro sports work I might even consider it. Lens selection is still way too limited, even with the 400. I'll stick with my large investment in Nikon gear. Best of luck.

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Oct 26, 2017 09:00:08   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
cjc2 wrote:
Sony makes some nice stuff. When I retire from my pro sports work I might even consider it. Lens selection is still way too limited, even with the 400. I'll stick with my large investment in Nikon gear. Best of luck.

So there are limitations to using Nikon lenses on Sony cameras??

CHOLLY wrote:
Well... considering you can use those lenses from the Nikon on the Sony (as well as a lot of other lenses)... but not vice versa.


http://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-492254-2.html#8303944

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Oct 26, 2017 09:03:54   #
cjc2 Loc: Hellertown PA
 
rehess wrote:
http://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-492254-2.html#8303944


I would have no idea. My D5 suits me just fine for sports and I have no intention of changing. Best of luck.

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Oct 26, 2017 09:05:58   #
mas24 Loc: Southern CA
 
The Sony A99II, Nikon D850, and Sony A7R3, are all similarly priced in the $3200 range. A coincidence? I do believe this camera will be an affordable alternative to the $4500 A9 camera. I like the features it offers. One, having dual memory slots. And Sony has introduced more patients for FE lenses. The ones available are top notch. Including the Zeiss and G lenses.

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Oct 26, 2017 10:49:37   #
CHOLLY Loc: THE FLORIDA PANHANDLE!
 
^^^Yep!!!

There are MORE THAN ENOUGH lenses offered as NATIVE E MOUNT glass to cover all the wide to telephoto focal lengths.

Super Telephoto, 400mm and up... is where you have to adapt lenses from other manufacturers.

But as time moves on, more and more of the features found when using native Sony E mount glass are being added to the functionality of these cameras. For instance; the new A7III can not only use Eye AF with other lenses, but also shoot at the maximum frame rate with full AF functionality.

So AGAIN, the "not enough lenses" argument shouldn't be the think keeping people away... because NOW they can use their existing glass and have the same functionality as though they were using native lenses.

Now... Sony glass... is as good as that from other manufacturers. And Sony Zeiss/Zeiss lenses and Sony G MASTER lenses are some of the BEST available.

So the pricing, performance, and flexibility make Sony Cameras a HECKOVA bargain for anyone, regardless of their current equipment roster.

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Oct 26, 2017 10:57:41   #
CHOLLY Loc: THE FLORIDA PANHANDLE!
 
Desert Gecko wrote:
Friends, Sony did it again. I've long thought Sony's a7Rii was nearly a perfect camera except it failed for fast action situations or sports. Along came the a-mount a99ii which used the same sensor but in the a-mount body with all necessary features to make it a sports-camera beast, but it came with the minor cost of the translucent mirror. Sony hit one out of the park with the a9, but that's a bit too much and too much money for me.

Now, Sony seems to have listened to its customers by updating what many consider to be one of the best portrait/landscape cameras ever made and released the a7Riii. It uses the same 42MP sensor after it was re-wired to offer a better focus system (doubling focus speed) supplying an improved processor. Sony added a card slot, so now it uses two SD, one at UHS 1 and the other at UHS 2. They doubled the battery life and added a touch screen (for focus points) and a joystick. The new body shoots up to 10fps (8fps with live view) -- not bad for a "landscape camera." There are many video enhancements as well, and much more that I can't recall at the moment. I'd provide a link, but those pesky link police would move this post (besides, news of this release is all over photography sites).

Move over D850, time to share the spotlight and maybe head for the shadows.
Friends, Sony did it again. I've long thought Sony... (show quote)


DG, as you know, Sony has been providing imaging sensors for and sharing technology with Olympus and Pentax for years. This camera showcases two technologies that cutting edge; 5 axis sensor shift and pixel shift technology.

Pixel Shift allows the A7RIII to shoot stills equivalent to a 169.8 megapixel image!!!
That's WELL ABOVE digital medium format resolution quality from a 35mm camera!!

Now the caveat is, there can't be ANY subject movement and you have to shoot from a tripod... but that's what MOST of us do for long exposure landscapes and certain studio images anyhow. AND you have to merge the files in your computer instead of in camera; can you imagine the size of those files?

Still... 170 mp?!?!

But... at 10fps DG, I think your choice is made.

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