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Mar 8, 2013 20:47:39   #
50teeslady wrote:
I do have a camera bag someone sent me when I purchased something from ebay...they just sent it with the item....Its a Tamrac...its not the greatest but you are welcome to it! send me your address....
Jean


Thank you Jean, I am good on Camera bag. But hang on to it you may be able to pay it forward to someone else. For everything there is a reason.

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meatyore wrote:
I just read this thread CJ, and want to express my sympathies for your loss. Did you end up with a camera body that you are going to use to build a new system on? If so, please update in case anyone here has accessories for it.
Wishing you well in the future- Edward


Thank you Edward,
Yes I have canon bodies so to start my system back up. I have a wonderful Pentax k1000 that was sent and I have been using that for the past few days.


I have to say and add to everyone here the overwhelming emotion from all the kindness and assistance from everyone after what happened just leaves me so full of emotions that no words can express.

I haven't been online much the past few days good ole spring flu.
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Feb 23, 2013 18:27:44   #
just prayers for those fans who were injured. Unbelievable,
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Feb 23, 2013 13:55:52   #
Nice GeneM,
Cameron County is where I will be within the next couple months. House is right before sizerville state park.

If the cabin is done maybe we can hook you up. The Buttonwood is always good too!

Thats where just recently I sat and watched an eagle for over an hour.
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Feb 23, 2013 11:05:19   #
JohnM wrote:

Looks like these folks have your back and I call that wonderful.

If there is something else you need once the dust settles feel free to send me a pm and I will do my best. Also, to aid in the mental health, I for one would love to know as much as you care to share about your upcoming ride to DC. I have been riding pretty much all winter so far but this last snow has my Ultrta in the garage for now. Best passtime is reading and planning of upcoming rides I think



Run to the Wall with Combat Veterans May every year. We ( combat veterans association) pretty much own a hotel located in Vienna , Va every Memorial Weekend. Located approximately 9-12 miles from the wall, veterans and friends from across the country start rolling in on Wednesday evenings through Friday. We gather together for our escorted ride to the Wall on Saturday. This when Combat Vets Assoc places a wreath at a special place for a special veteran that is either a relative or a friend.

Thursday and Friday night at the hotel that we call "The Trap" can get pretty wild and there is a lot of laughter,, tears, friends, moonshine sometimes, music. We pretty much have free rein at the hotel.

Combat Veterans Assoc is across the country, members are from all walks of life. We are Veterans helping Veterans.

Here is a link to some of last years photos. I believe the only ones that werent put up was when I jump off my bike in the front of the group stand in the middle of the road and proceed to play in traffic taking photos of each and every bike from our group. Last year there were a little over 600 photos very few were duplicates.

http://jans.zenfolio.com/f228477953

I will post this publically as well.

Jan aka Cj
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Feb 22, 2013 17:05:58   #
ty Tom,
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Feb 22, 2013 16:56:56   #
Dave you found me I answered,,,
Thank you Shakeyhands
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Feb 21, 2013 15:09:44   #
Up-2-it, and Ted45,

do you think the outcome would have been completely different if Dorner had been correctly diagnosed upon his separation of the military?

Only my thoughts on it and nothing to back it up but sometimes wise ole experience, I am thinking if he had been properly debriefed and evaluated after separation from the military, or even when he had come back to the states, I am thinking he would 1. never had been allowed in lapd and 2. would be receiving proper mental health care as he should have.

I will look to see if I can find an article that I read sometime in the past 6 months regarding issues with troops coming home and local LEOs needing extra training and extra knowledge of defenses when dealing with issues with returning troops. Does that sound familiar with either of you?

It may have been an internal memo or a DoD article or possibly something I read within the ranks of combat veterans assoc.

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There are several nurses working there that are from Viet Nam and I have never had better nor more compasionate treatment by any medical personnel.


The VA has changed so much in the last 40 years for the good. Would you still feel the same way if you had just come back from RVN and had to deal with nurses from there taking care of you 40 years ago? Don't answer me, just think about it.

My young'un I have about adopted arrived last night and we sat up until almost 4am talking. All is good and I will have him to see a dr tomorrow morning. Its a joke or not a joke across the country the folks that know me personally know my home as the east coast flop house for veterans.

I don't want to brag, but this is something I am proud of and when I received it, all I could say was this doesn't belong to me it belongs to all of us, there is no "I" in teamwork...
So I wish to share with you guys and think about it and take a young'un fishing when he or she comes home. let them talk or let them ponder in silence.

If Dorner had this when he came home I truly to God believe things would have been different no one would have died a senseless death.

This belongs to every person that helps a veteran, theres no I in teamwork

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Feb 21, 2013 11:50:53   #
Guys,,, all is good...

I didn't take anything as personal attack. Sometimes when I am thinking something it falls right out of my mouth without thinking.

So I'm human

Everything is good, your not chasing me away that easy, I have my big girl panties on.

Later guys
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Feb 20, 2013 17:26:57   #
Oh my comment about it being a different military,,,,, ou can be stationed in Denver flying drones and receive an air medal.

Women in combat are (for the most part) are in a combat zone, you 98% of the time will not see a CIB on a female veteran. Its strange for me to see women wearing a Cav patch. But they are there.
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Feb 20, 2013 17:22:45   #
Blurryeyed wrote:
UP-2-IT wrote:
cj wrote:
Blurryeyed wrote:
A mish Mash of emotion and defense of his own deplorable actions followed by a highly conflicted view of politics and our society's condition....

In no way will I agree with this man or excuse what he did, but I will say that his manifesto shows that despite his lunacy, he was an intelligent and articulate man....

First half is his defense for his actions, followed with the excuse it would seem that he was not only getting even and exposing the corruption of the LAPD, but that he was killing to demonstrate the ineffectiveness of our gun policies.... the latter part of his manifesto goes in to politics, and finally he seems to offer an opinion on many different influential politicians and celebrity types and the contributions good and bad to our society.

http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/feature?section=news/local/orange_county&id=8983607
A mish Mash of emotion and defense of his own depl... (show quote)


whoa,,, you just opened a can of worms...
only thing I have to say is, I wonder if LAPD will really ever openly review the initial event that started this domino effect?

okay I have two things to say. Being retired now with extensive medical and military background. We as a whole all need to be aware of our surroundings. These Kids that are coming home from Iraq, Afghanistan, and Africa and other places have been through h@ll and back. I know its a different military than it was back in the 60s, 70s, & 80s. But I have to wonder why so many of them coming home proclaim they do not believe in God as Chris Dorner said in his manifesto.

just a thought........... I wont post another thing to thios topic.

be safe out there
quote=Blurryeyed A mish Mash of emotion and defen... (show quote)



CJ, I am sorry but I fail to see the difference that you do between those of us that were in Viet Nam and the troops coming home from Iraq and Afghanistan today. Both were wars fought based on lies from our respective Presidents, both were fought for financial gain of a few. The one difference I see is that when we came home from Viet Nam we were spit on and vilified and when they get home today they are celebrated. I do it, the celebration, myself because it's someones son or daughter coming home.
I don't recall hearing the first one disclaim his belief in God, perhaps you are trying to transfer your beliefs and credit them to our youth coming home. Just thinking, maybe the difference I noted in the treatment of the vets isn't so different after all thanks to your dishonest statement above.
quote=cj quote=Blurryeyed A mish Mash of emotion... (show quote)


Well finally there is something that you and I can agree on... I do believe that our returning troops should be honored and that our politicians are less than worthy of the respect that we should and hopefully do show our returning soldiers... These young people have demonstrated a stronger moral character than most of our fellow citizens, our politicians on the other hand... not so much... I do not celebrate these young folks because they are sons and daughters, I celebrate them because they honor us by risking all in the service of their country which they still believe in, I just wish that our politicians could demonstrate even a modicum of the same selfless service.

I am so humbled by the vets I see returning from war, physically damaged and impaired for life yet saying that they have no regrets for their service to our country...

I also respect that you recognize how differently our soldiers were treated upon their return from Vietnam. I too recall their being spit upon, as if it was their choice to put us into and prosecute that ill fated war. There are those here who would deny that ever happened.
quote=UP-2-IT quote=cj quote=Blurryeyed A mish ... (show quote)



I knew I should have not posted to this one....

Ted45, you said what I should have said, I didn't choose my words carefully before I hit the send button.

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CJ is sort of right in his statement about the current Vets not believing. Most of the ones I have spoken with do not believe in the church. The institution has become as corrupt as any major corporation, in their eyes. Many still have a believe in God but on their own terms, not according to the dictates of a specific man-made church. There is no reference, just talk to them..



Over the last 15 years we have taken in vets into our home. I did not word correctly regarding believing in God. Its the institution. Actually at this moment I am waiting for a young man to arrive who is having problems and issues coping with John Doe public since his return from 3 tours in Iraq and 1 tour in Afghanistan. He has been with us before and rather than resort to the VA flight deck, he comes to my house where and when if he wants to talk he can freely as well as pray, talk about God, talk about anything and not have any repercussions or be labeled as a racist against muslims. Yes this does happen at our VAs across the country when you have a muslin, Pakistani, or other far easterner talking to our troops about dailey life.





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CJ, I am sorry but I fail to see the difference that you do between those of us that were in Viet Nam and the troops coming home from Iraq and Afghanistan today. Both were wars fought based on lies from our respective Presidents, both were fought for financial gain of a few. The one difference I see is that when we came home from Viet Nam we were spit on and vilified and when they get home today they are celebrated. I do it, the celebration, myself because it's someones son or daughter coming home.
CJ, I am sorry but I fail to see the difference th... (show quote)



I agree with you regarding both wars and the reasons. Here is something to think about though,,,, how would you have felt when you came home from Nam went to the VA and had (now this one I really have to word correctly), a NV treating you for medical or mental treatments. That's just wrong isn't it? These kids coming home today have their own battles to cope with inside without having to deal with the VA employing muslin, Pakistani, or other far easterner. But ya know it happens every day.


I lost my kids, one to an auto accident one in Iraq 3 weeks before he was due to be coming home. I ride proudly with the Patriot Guard and I am proud that I served my duty in the military and my son, as well as my significant other who was by the way in RVN 1st/7th Air Cav.


So please don't question my knowledge of past war and present war vets and how they are treated. I see it every day and live with it every day.


I knew I shouldn't have posted to this topic.

All is well, I hope I didn't piss anyone off and I am not ticked about anything. I just wished to get a point across and I didn't do a very good job at it.

I'll try one more time,,,, My point is 1.) I wondered if LAPD will openly investigate the charges that started all this with Dorner....
It may have been a trigger for him to go haywire. I do not agree at all with what he did, just saying it may just have been a trigger point.

My second point, these kids coming home today, other than being spit on, things thrown at them, it may not be happening in the same manor today and in fact its the VietNam vets that are making sure that they are never treated that way. What is happening is our righteous government is employing these same people we go to take out, help out, wipe out, in our Veterans Administration hospitals to take care of our troops returning..... If you even think I am off pint on this, please go visit your local VA hospital and look closely.

Love you guys and did not mean to stir up so much contravosy
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Feb 19, 2013 21:55:48   #
They are definately a "WoW" catagory.

beautiful photos. Thank you for sharing :thumbup:
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Feb 19, 2013 21:30:16   #
brought a tear to my eye,,, 4x5 and chrome,,,, those were the days

nuff said.
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Feb 19, 2013 20:20:12   #
Blurryeyed wrote:
A mish Mash of emotion and defense of his own deplorable actions followed by a highly conflicted view of politics and our society's condition....

In no way will I agree with this man or excuse what he did, but I will say that his manifesto shows that despite his lunacy, he was an intelligent and articulate man....

First half is his defense for his actions, followed with the excuse it would seem that he was not only getting even and exposing the corruption of the LAPD, but that he was killing to demonstrate the ineffectiveness of our gun policies.... the latter part of his manifesto goes in to politics, and finally he seems to offer an opinion on many different influential politicians and celebrity types and the contributions good and bad to our society.

http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/feature?section=news/local/orange_county&id=8983607
A mish Mash of emotion and defense of his own depl... (show quote)


whoa,,, you just opened a can of worms...
only thing I have to say is, I wonder if LAPD will really ever openly review the initial event that started this domino effect?

okay I have two things to say. Being retired now with extensive medical and military background. We as a whole all need to be aware of our surroundings. These Kids that are coming home from Iraq, Afghanistan, and Africa and other places have been through h@ll and back. I know its a different military than it was back in the 60s, 70s, & 80s. But I have to wonder why so many of them coming home proclaim they do not believe in God as Chris Dorner said in his manifesto.

just a thought........... I wont post another thing to thios topic.

be safe out there
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Feb 19, 2013 19:28:19   #
Skeezit,
Simply beautiful! if I didnt know better I would say that was the road I drove over to the post office today.,,,

all kidding aside absolutely beautiful shot ........ty for sharing.
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Feb 16, 2013 20:40:12   #
Its ok, darn holidays.
I just sent you all my information

I will send you money for postage anything you want except my Harley, I need that for my DC trip to the Wall in May.


Weeeeeee I'm smiling so much right now!!!
Ty Ty Ty Ty
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